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FAUXTON posted:So the answer is to just not use them?
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ulmont posted:Holy poo poo, yeah. $1 million to fight the case versus $225,000 to install air conditioning. Probably couldn't find a third party to run the AC for a monthly fee charged to the inmates that want it.
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Jun 30, 2016 02:52
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ulmont posted:Holy poo poo, yeah. $1 million to fight the case versus $225,000 to install air conditioning. See, it's the principle of the thing. Gotta stand up for what's right for the people of Louisiana.
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Jun 30, 2016 02:55
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Gyges posted:See, it's the principle of the thing. Gotta stand up for what's right for the people of Louisiana. quote:Private attorneys from two law firms have billed the state more than $424,000. Most of that has gone to a Baton Rouge firm with a law partner — E. Wade Shows — who served as campaign treasurer to former Attorney General James "Buddy" Caldwell, who was voted out of office last year. Who knew principles were so profitable?
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Jun 30, 2016 03:00
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hobbesmaster posted:Who knew principles were so profitable? Those are extremely low costs and revenues per hour.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:03
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euphronius posted:Those are extremely low costs and revenues per hour. It's true, although maybe not so much for Baton Rouge. However, that firm does have 16 different matters open with the state to the tune of a few million a year.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:10
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ulmont posted:Holy poo poo, yeah. $1 million to fight the case versus $225,000 to install air conditioning. Yeah, but they have to pay for electricity to run it indefinitely, so when you think about it, if they win the case, they save an infinite amount of money.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:11
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I doubt they are making much of anything on 140 an hour and it's more for prestige / connections to other clients.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:12
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patentmagus posted:Maybe the pharmacist thought you had unprotected sex and that such boning is stupid. Who gives a poo poo it's literally none of her business, fill the script and keep your comments to yourself I have no idea why this seems to be so hard for some pharmacies but here we are
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twodot posted:The answer is not to shame people using Plan B on the assumption they aren't practicing safe sex. Seems like a fair enough compromise.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:14
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euphronius posted:I doubt they are making much of anything on 140 an hour and it's more for prestige / connections to other clients. It's Baton Rouge. I bet they're paying their attorneys less than Chicago money* *The 36,000 variant, to be clear. EDIT: I remember dealing with local counsel out of a suburb of Indianapolis a few years back, where the 20 years of practice partner was billing something like $200.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:14
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euphronius posted:I doubt they are making much of anything on 140 an hour and it's more for prestige / connections to other clients. ooooooooooor they're putting in a lot of paralegal/non-attorney time to bring down the average
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Jun 30, 2016 03:15
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Baton rogue is a state capital and iirc a large town. 140 an hour is like .... Small town solo rates for divorced waitresses.
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evilweasel posted:ooooooooooor they're putting in a lot of paralegal/non-attorney time to bring down the average Public contracts don't usually let you charge for non legal time . Even private was cracking down in that last I checked . You may be right. Still you have to pay paralegals and assistants.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:17
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euphronius posted:Baton rogue is a state capital and iirc a large town. Baton Rouge has around 230,000. And while the story is back from 2004, back then Louisiana billing rates were literally half of the rest of the country. http://s92916841.onlinehome.us/law%20images/041129_CB_rates.pdf
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Jun 30, 2016 03:18
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Baton Rouge is our state capital and there is a solid amount of oil and shipping money around town. I would wager there is some shenanigans with those rates.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:48
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Baton Rouge is in Louisiana, which means its legal system is completely insane, even by state law standards.
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Discendo Vox posted:Baton Rouge is in Louisiana, which means its legal system is completely insane, even by state law standards. You can take the Napoleonic Code from cold, dead mains
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I've always heard that LA judges will look at you like you've grown an extra head if you try to try your case without citing some case law, Napoleonic Code or not.
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Discendo Vox posted:Baton Rouge is in Louisiana, which means its legal system is completely insane, even by state law standards. Just the intro has my head spinning. I wonder what the rate of failure on the Louisiana bar exam is for those who did not study in the state -- or even if having a hodgepodge of legal doctrines affects the bar at all.
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Potato Salad posted:Just the intro has my head spinning. I wonder what the rate of failure on the Louisiana bar exam is for those who did not study in the state -- or even if having a hodgepodge of legal doctrines affects the bar at all. It does. Our bar exam is supposedly one of, if not the, most difficult exams in the country.
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Jun 30, 2016 05:54
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FAUXTON posted:So the answer is to just not use them? No, the answer (which I didn't make clear) is that you shouldn't judge people who are buying Plan B because "they should have used condoms". You don't know whether they did or not. Heck, I'd say you shouldn't judge people based on their taking responsibility for the consequences of sex, but what do I know.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:14
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Heck, I'd say you shouldn't judge people Where have I heard that before... wasn't there a celebrity or something who was famous for saying stuff like this... drat who was it... jeez, it's right on the tip of my tongue. Jesus christ why can't I remember it.
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Rygar201 posted:It does. Our bar exam is supposedly one of, if not the, most difficult exams in the country. So how did Frank Abagnale, Jr pass it? 
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Some dude was all "you cannot judge - that is reserved for someone who is literally divinity *wink* " Then some mortal fucks decided its okay for humans to judge in the case of homosexuals.
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Jun 30, 2016 12:14
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Discendo Vox posted:Baton Rouge is in Louisiana, which means its legal system is completely insane, even by state law standards. quote:The first Louisiana Civil Code Digest of 1808 was written in French and subsequently translated into English. For many years legal practitioners in the state made great effort to ensure that both versions agreed. Despite those efforts some clauses were found only in one version or the other. 
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Jun 30, 2016 12:41
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Arsenic Lupin posted:No, the answer (which I didn't make clear) is that you shouldn't judge people who are buying Plan B because "they should have used condoms". You don't know whether they did or not. Heck, I'd say you shouldn't judge people based on their taking responsibility for the consequences of sex, but what do I know. personally, given that we're all human, i think asking people not to privately laugh at the many things that people buy at a pharmacy is a bridge too far into robotville as long as you're polite to their face
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Truly the greatest state. I'd have rather they keep the codes in agreement than decide they'd just beat the French out of the populace 
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I seem to recall that one of the other states did something strange and unpleasant with either its legislative record or legal system, such that everything was contained in a single canonical document that had to contain the full record of revisions within the same document. Kentucky, maybe?
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Discendo Vox posted:I seem to recall that one of the other states did something strange and unpleasant with either its legislative record or legal system, such that everything was contained in a single canonical document that had to contain the full record of revisions within the same document. Kentucky, maybe? Why is that a problem?
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Torrannor posted:Why is that a problem? Imagine a (iirc) 50 year old, 8000 page, word document, under continuous revision, with all track changes on and visible, embedded in the text. This is what you cite to for all laws, and what your legislature reads for all laws. All additions are applied to the end of the current document. edit: those vvvvvvv may be what I was thinking of. Disgusting. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 18:06
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IIRC Alabama basically has no laws. They just amend the constitution every time they want to do something.
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Slaan posted:IIRC Alabama basically has no laws. They just amend the constitution every time they want to do something. Louisiana does this too. Our Constitution is very long and very bad.
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I think I was thinking of Alabama:quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8dLdAlL3Q Other fun, illegibly long state constitutions include Texas, which requires explicit enumeration of all state government powers, and California, which is the product of a psychotic strong liberal philosophy and a direct democratic revision system. edit: while searching for the full text of the Alabama constitution to see how thick it would be if printed, I came across this little gem of a website. http://www.whpgs.org/f.htm Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 18:52
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This makes me physically ill for so many reasons.
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Imagine being one of the legislative aides or legal research or court library people working for the Alabama state government- having to advise Alabama legislators on how to write their Alabama laws to integrate with the Alabama constitution. Suggestion. Let's pool our resources and send the Alabama Law Institute staff some pizza or beer or something. edit: Their website hasn't been updated since mid-2015 :facepalm: Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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Jun 30, 2016 19:47
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Discendo Vox posted:I think I was thinking of Alabama: Sherman did nothing wrong.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:52
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My home state of Texas is like that because constitutional amendments only require a majority on the ballot. And statistically if you get an amendment on the ballot it has something like an 80% chance to pass.
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Gobbeldygook posted:Sherman did nothing wrong. Yeah he did, he only burnt part of the South and didn't finish the goddamned job.
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Discendo Vox posted:I think I was thinking of Alabama: You left off the best part quote:The Constitution of the State of Alabama is the basic governing document of the U.S. state of Alabama. It was adopted in 1901 and is the sixth constitution that the state has had.
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