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Ruh roh shaggy http://chinafilminsider.com/china-box-office-warcraft-ticket-sales-come-scrutiny/
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A country that worships Blizzard and has annual tournaments for Starcraft showed up in droves. What a shocking twist.
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Jun 30, 2016 15:22
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Yeah, China never really was big in on Japanese gaming like the US was. So mainstream videogames in China started in the mid to late 90s with American games and internet cafes. Blizzard games hold the same place in china that like mario and zelda do in the US. Even nongamers know them and probably tried playing.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:13
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Vintersorg posted:A country that worships Blizzard and has annual tournaments for Starcraft showed up in droves. Except...they didn't. The numbers were faked.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:30
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effectual posted:Except...they didn't. The numbers were faked. Except that is not proven and it's only speculation.
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Jun 30, 2016 18:48
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Of course someone decided to link a random article claiming the ticket sales were faked instead of, y'know. The fact that the film has made 413 million worldwide: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=warcraft.htm Sequel Town, here we come!
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Jun 30, 2016 20:20
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Paolomania posted:The Lich King arc in TFT is a perfectly fine march towards a cursed fate, but for me it doesn't fully cleanse the palate of the forced feeling of the Frostmourne arc from WC3. If you were converting the story of War3 into a film script you'd probably just make Arthas becoming the Lich King + acquiring Frostmourne the same event, since you didn't have to sell an expansion pack with another UD campaign in it.
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Jun 30, 2016 21:00
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Paolomania posted:An Orc shaman that made a pact with a demon had his soul ripped from his body on Draenor. This soul was entrapped in an inanimate helmet. This helmet was then put in a block of ice in Northrend and for some reason the traitorous soul was put in charge of a major demon operation. This inanimate helmet also somehow forged the sword Frostmourne (and fancy pedestal with ominous engraving) and emitted it from the ice block (???????) because of course a Lordaeron anti hero would be baited by a demon to come along to pick it up. It does not make sense - you must aquit. I think it was that Frostmourne was part of the helmet/armor that his soul was imprisoned in, and he managed to dislodge it from the ice block it was all contained in as he fell to Azeroth. Apart from that, it makes about as much sense as a guy being invincible if he gets back his special ring. exquisite tea posted:If you were converting the story of War3 into a film script you'd probably just make Arthas becoming the Lich King + acquiring Frostmourne the same event, since you didn't have to sell an expansion pack with another UD campaign in it. Nah, you want the duel before he marches up the glacier to don the helmet as well. Trying to fit in Illidan would be awkward though.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:34
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Hodgepodge posted:Apart from that, it makes about as much sense as a guy being invincible if he gets back his special ring. Is this a Sauron reference? Because it doesn't make him invincible, he was beaten with the ring on him. Regaining it would just make him stronger than the weak remains of civilizations that oppose him that remain at the end of the third age. Sauron needs the ring back because he, like everyone else, is a weak version of what came before. The ring would give him back his old power, power he himself put into the ring and then lost.
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Jul 1, 2016 01:07
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doverhog posted:Is this a Sauron reference? Because it doesn't make him invincible, he was beaten with the ring on him. The whole point of that series is that he wasn't beaten.
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Jul 1, 2016 01:52
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Vintersorg posted:A country that worships Blizzard and has annual tournaments for Starcraft showed up in droves. korea is the country that worshipped starcraft. i know you liked the bad movie but c'mon. china started loving blizzard with probably their worst major game (until d3 came out of course) which is unsurprising since chinese gamers love their timesink mmos.
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Jul 1, 2016 01:55
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doverhog posted:Is this a Sauron reference? Because it doesn't make him invincible, he was beaten with the ring on him. Ah yes well when you put it like that getting his special ring is way different that getting the special sword.
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Jul 1, 2016 02:13
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i watched some clips of this film on youtube it looks extremely bad that's my hot take
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Jul 1, 2016 03:26
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Vintersorg posted:Except that is not proven and it's only speculation. The "all our screenings had at least 130 viewers in this city that was loving flooded during the showings" goes beyond speculation and into "you loving liars" territory. China is well known for faking this sort of poo poo and considering Warcraft had Chinese co-financing it's all the more reason for Wanda group to do fraudulant poo poo Edit: Mind you I am sure that it legitimately did very well in China but corruption is the name of the game in China and this is not the first time a Chinese film production company has faked ticket sales
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Jul 1, 2016 05:18
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computer parts posted:The whole point of that series is that he wasn't beaten. Sure, but his armies were destroyed and his physical body killed with swords and stuff. "Beaten".
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Jul 1, 2016 07:32
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doverhog posted:Is this a Sauron reference? Because it doesn't make him invincible, he was beaten with the ring on him. Invincible in terms of the forces that remain. I mean, even one Valar showing up, let alone with their whole armies from the West, would have meant that he was toast even at the height of his power. Not even Morgoth stood a chance when that happened. It was a stroke of luck that Isildur cut the Ring off his hand, though. In Tolkien that actually means divine intervention, and is mirrored at the end of the story when Golem bites off Frodo's finger and falls into Mount Doom.
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Jul 1, 2016 07:42
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In the book that moment never happens. He still fights Elendil and Gil-Galad (and the rest of the Last Alliance is there too) who are sieging Barad-Dur and kills them, but is himself destroyed in the battle. Isildur takes the Ring after Sauron's body is dead.
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Jul 1, 2016 07:50
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Didn't the movies make Sauron much more of a presence than he was in the books? I've never read them, but from what I hear after Saurons body was killed, he's essentially just a powerless ghost, and only rules through fear and his orcish armies which still venerate him through Saruman.
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Jul 1, 2016 11:38
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Well, kind of but not really. Evil Lighthouse isn't a thing in the books, which might be what you're thinking of; instead, the "Eye of Sauron" isn't literal but represents Sauron always watching what everyone else is up to, biding his time and gathering his strength. We're told he's been without a physical form since his defeat, but it's later implied that he's regained a body by the time of the events of LOTR.
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Jul 1, 2016 11:52
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Fojar38 posted:The "all our screenings had at least 130 viewers in this city that was loving flooded during the showings" goes beyond speculation and into "you loving liars" territory. China is well known for faking this sort of poo poo and considering Warcraft had Chinese co-financing it's all the more reason for Wanda group to do fraudulant poo poo A 7000 square mile city of 1.22 million people managed 130 viewers? Definitely fraud.
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Jul 1, 2016 15:36
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:A 7000 square mile city of 1.22 million people managed 130 viewers? Definitely fraud. Read it again and make sure you don't skip over the very first word in the quote. Often the meaning of a sentence can change when you do that.
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Jul 1, 2016 15:52
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peer posted:Well, kind of but not really. Evil Lighthouse isn't a thing in the books, which might be what you're thinking of; instead, the "Eye of Sauron" isn't literal but represents Sauron always watching what everyone else is up to, biding his time and gathering his strength. We're told he's been without a physical form since his defeat, but it's later implied that he's regained a body by the time of the events of LOTR. Well, the Eye can be physically seen at one point at the top of the tower in the books for certain, and Tolkien's descriptions are famously vague such that you can make anything look like almost whatever you want (see: nerd arguments over the balrog's size and whether or not it has wings), but yeah the static electricity eyeball field is a well-received artistic interpretation of the films.
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Jul 1, 2016 18:59
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I don't remember how the part goes where the Eye is seen, but in the book, Sauron has a physical body, and is using a palantir to look at things. That's also how he drives Denethor and Saruman mad, because they also have palantirs and keep using them even tho when they do they see Sauron looking back.
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Jul 1, 2016 19:16
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:A 7000 square mile city of 1.22 million people managed 130 viewers? Definitely fraud. 130 per screening during a natural disaster, if the official statistics are to be believed. Word to the wise, all statistics coming out of China should be treated with suspicion.
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Jul 1, 2016 19:29
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Well, the Eye can be physically seen at one point at the top of the tower in the books for certain, and Tolkien's descriptions are famously vague such that you can make anything look like almost whatever you want (see: nerd arguments over the balrog's size and whether or not it has wings), but yeah the static electricity eyeball field is a well-received artistic interpretation of the films. There's definitely more words spent describing various landscape features than the main antagonist of the story, and that in itself is Tolkien as gently caress.
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Jul 2, 2016 03:06
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I just hope they explain the backstory a bit more. A lot of people who didn't play the games/read the books didn't understand why the orcs were invading, how Medivh got corrupted, etc. I bet it was very confusing.
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Jul 3, 2016 13:39
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Flumbooze posted:I just hope they explain the backstory a bit more. A lot of people who didn't play the games/read the books didn't understand why the orcs were invading, how Medivh got corrupted, etc. I bet it was very confusing. Yeah another 10 minutes at the front to show life on Draenor a bit and 2 minutes at the end to build up the 'Whoever corrupted Medivh must be a force to be reckoned with. Come back for the sequel!' element would've been nice.
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Jul 3, 2016 13:55
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Fojar38 posted:130 per screening during a natural disaster, if the official statistics are to be believed. Okay, that seems like a really low number, why am I supposed to be super shocked and doubtful by this? The city had costal flooding, it wasn't obliterated
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Jul 3, 2016 17:02
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Okay, that seems like a really low number, why am I supposed to be super shocked and doubtful by this? The city had costal flooding, it wasn't obliterated Every single screen had 130 people looking at it while many of their homes were flooded. Yeah not a lot at all! You either think every theater in China is some 500 person megaplex or you've never been in an area that experienced even moderate flooding.
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Jul 3, 2016 17:12
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Comrayn posted:Every single screen had 130 people looking at it while many of their homes were flooded. Yeah not a lot at all! I just don't get why this is doubtful, the city had coastal flooding, it didn't sink into the sea or something. It's a giant city with millions of people in and around it. People are still going to work and eating at mcdonalds and stuff. Finding 130 people per showing of a movie in a million person city seems absurdly not impressive, a couple thousand people saw a movie over a weekend? I really am supposed to flip my lid about those filthy chinamen and their fake lies on something that believable?
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Jul 3, 2016 17:51
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So having just got back from seeing it I wanted to know if I'm the only one who thought Blackhand threw that Mak'Gora as his own method of fighting against Gul'Dan. The fact that he called it, when there was really no need, in the first place and then gave Lothar his sword back before they actually fought is pretty suspicious, him going for a straight-forward charge and not even trying to defend against the slide just seems too perfect. I think he intentionally set it up to further drive the wedge between Gul'Dan and the rest of the Orcs, as he's already realised that the warlock has no respect for their ways considering he cheated to win his own Mak'Gora. That it also meant he'd prove that the Fel infusion Gul'Dan is trying to sell isn't all that it's cracked up to be is probably a bonus.
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Jul 3, 2016 18:35
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Yea it's a pretty well known conspiracy, we've been talking about it for pages.
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Jul 3, 2016 20:46
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Comrayn posted:Every single screen had 130 people looking at it while many of their homes were flooded. Yeah not a lot at all! You're better off not bothering with the guy who has been probated or banned for being a terrible poster 32 times.
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Jul 3, 2016 21:03
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Lord_Magmar posted:So having just got back from seeing it I wanted to know if I'm the only one who thought Blackhand threw that Mak'Gora as his own method of fighting against Gul'Dan. The fact that he called it, when there was really no need, in the first place and then gave Lothar his sword back before they actually fought is pretty suspicious, him going for a straight-forward charge and not even trying to defend against the slide just seems too perfect. What i got from it was that he was just pissed, cus Gul'dan kept making fun of his honorable tradition poo poo. Note how he throws Gul'dan's cane in the sand like a rebellious teenager. That whole part with the Gul'dan showdown was really cool. Loved the movie, yeah Garona was cringe worthy stuff but Khadgar and Varian had some funny stuff going on. The way he doesn't help Khadgar up from the ground after he pretty much broke his tailbone made me laugh, it just came out of nowhere.
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Jul 3, 2016 21:29
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I also thought the fight between Khadgar and Medivh was cool cus i was expecting a super lame dbz style power struggle or whatever and i got Khadgar teleporting the golem on his Medhivs face. Tbh this movie has a lot of fun stuff and references in it.
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Jul 3, 2016 21:35
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I just don't get why this is doubtful, the city had coastal flooding, it didn't sink into the sea or something. It's a giant city with millions of people in and around it. People are still going to work and eating at mcdonalds and stuff. Finding 130 people per showing of a movie in a million person city seems absurdly not impressive, a couple thousand people saw a movie over a weekend? lol you don't understand Chinese floods. Heavy rain literally killed dozens of people the other day in southern China. Here have some pictures of the exact flood that people were supposedly flocking to theatres to see Warcraft during    And what's more, the vast majority of the city is located on the banks of the flooded river. quote:I really am supposed to flip my lid about those filthy chinamen and their fake lies on something that believable? And we got to "if you don't uncritically accept all information coming from the Chinese oligarchy then you are racist" in record time.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:59
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Fojar38 posted:And we got to "if you don't uncritically accept all information coming from the Chinese oligarchy then you are racist" in record time. Double points because these allegations of fraud are coming from people in China in the first place.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:23
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Fojar38 posted:lol you don't understand Chinese floods. Heavy rain literally killed dozens of people the other day in southern China. I don't know why you want there to be some weird china conspiracy theory. Yeah, there is a coastal flood happening, but look at all the places they COULD be showing movies: http://imgur.com/hVqjWQc Look how far that entire city goes!
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Jul 4, 2016 01:01
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TBF if half my city was underwater it would probably make escapism via Warcraft movie seem slightly better by comparison.
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