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chitoryu12 posted:The WWE is weird because even though it's been outed as scripted stunt shows for decades, the culture behind kayfabe (the act of staying in character even outside the ring and pretending the whole thing is real everywhere you go) has forced the "sport" to occupy an unusual position where everyone pretends everything is real 24/7 when everyone knows it's not, right down to children who watch the stuff on TV. You kinda have to double-talk around everything because even though it's common knowledge that the whole thing is fake and you're watching actors pretending to fight one another, the actors will pretend that it's real to the extent of not being seen having friendly chats with wrestlers who are supposed to be their in-character rivals. It's all a big act that everyone (even the audience) is participating in. Copping to the games being fixed and professional wrestling being entertainment instead of sport was an inspired legal dodge when the writing was on the wall during serious legal investigations. Wrestlers being "entertainers" and not athletes lets them be treated pretty poorly health and safety-wise, as well.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Copping to the games being fixed and professional wrestling being entertainment instead of sport was an inspired legal dodge when the writing was on the wall during serious legal investigations. Wrestlers being "entertainers" and not athletes lets them be treated pretty poorly health and safety-wise, as well. The health and wellness policy that they implemented in the wake of Benoit's death has helped with that considerably. And they aren't letting their big name wrestlers skimp out on it either. Romain Reigns just jobbed in their latest PPV so he would lose the title before his 30 day suspension for using drugs. Most of the problem nowadays is with their writers, Cody Rhodes had a rather public fallout with WWE that resulted in him being allowed out of his contract because he felt the writers weren't using him properly. But even then there doesn't really seem to be any bad blood about it.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Copping to the games being fixed and professional wrestling being entertainment instead of sport was an inspired legal dodge when the writing was on the wall during serious legal investigations. Wrestlers being "entertainers" and not athletes lets them be treated pretty poorly health and safety-wise, as well. It wouldn't really matter if they were entertainers or athletes, it'd be more on the independent contractor status. The wellness policy was a joke until Eddie died and got more teeth. It's not USADA harsh, but unless you pop for weed it's pretty harsh. They have one of the better concussion policies especially compared to professional and college football.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Copping to the games being fixed and professional wrestling being entertainment instead of sport was an inspired legal dodge when the writing was on the wall during serious legal investigations. Wrestlers being "entertainers" and not athletes lets them be treated pretty poorly health and safety-wise, as well. Theres also a lot of schaden to freude out of modern pro-wrestling. One of the big current backstage hot topics is the issue within the WWE where talent is considered independent contractors so corporate can cut cost by having them foot their own travel expenses. Only the heaviest pushed guys are all expenses paid. And the near self-fulfilling prophecy with merchandise. For example, John Cena merch sells by the boat load. But John Cena merch also takes up the majority of the booth space. So does Cena merch move because of his popularity or because it's all anyone can buy at arenas to quiet their child? In Johns case it's definitely a mix of both. But you also have heels(bad guys) who may be the second most popular talent, but because old data says heel merch sell like bags of dog poo poo, their items might not even be available at all. There was one parent who took to Twitter a year or two ago, saying that their child wanted a Randy Orton shirt, but there weren't any at all at the booth. When talent gets a cut of merch sales large enough to be considered a huge pay raise, this causes issues backstage. Ryback made a pseudo manifesto about his backstage feelings months back, how winners are paid more than those who lose to make them winners, when it's an entirely scripted environment where both players matter. New Japan also has massive issues that has causes their top acts jump ship to the WWE because of more favorable merch deals. NJPW basically doesn't give talent cuts on merch at all. Skaw has a new favorite as of 21:24 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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How is any of that unexpected or different than any other market that preys on devotees' aspirations to being a career? Anyways, pro wrestling is indeed entertainment, except it's not at all entertaining. If you want some good schaden check out Vince McMahon's congressional testimony about steroids from 2007 https://thinksteroids.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/vince-mcmahon-interview.pdf Bonus freude from how his lawyer just demolishes the congresspeople.
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The wresting derail never really goes away it just seems to slow down for a few days between the pages of boring bullshit that nobody cares about.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:How is any of that unexpected or different than any other market that preys on devotees' aspirations to being a career? Can you give us a high level overview of what he says?
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Jastiger posted:Can you give us a high level overview of what he says? 
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Schadenfreude Thread: getting under it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NLxlATUJQ
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Jastiger posted:Can you give us a high level overview of what he says?
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chitoryu12 posted:Back in 2012, I was on the cast for Halloween Horror Nights 22 at Universal Orlando. Because I'm 6'2 in tennis shoes, I was put on a street cast of robed, hooded monsters called Beasts where everyone had to be at least 6 feet to get in. There was one guy who was under 6 feet who I think was meant to be more "goblin-like" than the rest of us and was distinctively faster and lower to the ground than the others, but otherwise we were pretty drat tall. Being in a mosh pit at a Tool concert was a learning experience for me. I'm 6'4" and I felt like a dwarf.
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syscall girl posted:Being in a mosh pit at a Tool concert was a learning experience for me. I'm 6'4" and I felt like a dwarf. jesus christ, congrats on surviving that mosh pit
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Short Penguin posted:jesus christ, congrats on surviving that mosh pit If you want the scoot and fruity I was so high on acid I wore sandals My feet were burger
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Jastiger posted:Can you give us a high level overview of what he says? He and his lawyers take over the entire congressional hearing and give them the run around to an insane degree.
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chitoryu12 posted:It's always slightly terrifying when you see a pro wrestler have to defend themselves for real, and you realize just how much they're pulling their punches and coordinating their throws and slams to avoid hurting anyone. Seriously; that dude got flipped onto his head like he was nothing.
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syscall girl posted:Being in a mosh pit at a Tool concert was a learning experience for me. I'm 6'4" and I felt like a dwarf. The one really good thing about having such a huge cast of guys is that we suffered the least harassment out of any actors. HHN is notorious for cast and crew being harassed all the way up to nightly assault and battery from drunks and psychopaths, but because we were so universally large we only had a few cases of it. Schadenfreudey example: one of my castmates (a firefighter in his day job) turned around after being shoved just in time to see a fist coming for his nose. It was a completely unprovoked attack by a guy who thought it would be cool to punch an employee in the face. By the time any of our coordinators arrived at the scene, they had to pull him off the guest to keep him from breaking any bones. Normally putting hands on a guest even in self-defense causes Universal's HR department to suffer a collective heart attack and blacklist you for life, but the management who witnessed it all agreed that it was well-deserved and just quietly "forgot" to tell anyone higher up.
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chitoryu12 posted:The one really good thing about having such a huge cast of guys is that we suffered the least harassment out of any actors. HHN is notorious for cast and crew being harassed all the way up to nightly assault and battery from drunks and psychopaths, but because we were so universally large we only had a few cases of it. Hahaha
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chitoryu12 posted:The one really good thing about having such a huge cast of guys is that we suffered the least harassment out of any actors. HHN is notorious for cast and crew being harassed all the way up to nightly assault and battery from drunks and psychopaths, but because we were so universally large we only had a few cases of it. I feel sort of bad about doing this once. I was at a haunted house when I was like 11 and there was a dark hallway where... I guess you were supposed to turn left. I turned right into some kind of curtain, it wouldn't move, so I started bodyslamming and punching it to catch up with my friends. Turns out it was just an employee in black blocking off the other end of the hallway, he shoved me and said "go the other way."
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ringu0 posted:Schadenfreude Thread: getting under it I was seriously expecting a car to come in on the left and smash into that barrier.
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Scyantific posted:I was seriously expecting a car to come in on the left and smash into that barrier. I was sort of expecting a 2nd train after the guy went past the barrier.
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Sagebrush posted:Sometimes, your imagination is better than any possible reality. Looks like a cave painting of buffalos.
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Sagebrush posted:Sometimes, your imagination is better than any possible reality. Wow, the Attitude Era was amazing for all the wrong reasons.
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Data Graham posted:There's a group photo I can't find anymore of a bunch of those World's Strongest Men guys, twenty or thirty big beefy slabs of meat and one little guy in a suit, about a foot shorter than all of them, standing right in the middle. Hello. You may recognize The Mountain next to Arnie, but the biggest guy is Brian Shaw (in the black cap), who is 6'8" and 450lbs. 
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Malachi Constant posted:"Engineering here, we're experiencing fluctuations in the gravitational plating, captain." http://i.imgur.com/e8Aw6h6.gifv Platystemon has a new favorite as of 03:40 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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It's  for my friend, but given the title of the thread, there's some schaden from it:quote:My hometown has a decorative gate. Trucks do not fit through. Every few years someone hits it, but it usually only knocks off a few stones.    e: oh gently caress me, I didn't even notice the sign in the first one. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 04:36 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:e: oh gently caress me, I didn't even notice the sign in the first one.
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The monsoon-induced turbulence in water is being blamed for the accident. monsoon-induced turbulence yeah... http://www.newscrunch.in/2016/06/panaji-mayor-surendra-furtado-falls.html 
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Failarmies to help rerail the thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZzYD54xxX4 SO MANY BALLS, SO MANY FAILS. Also slightly NSFW due to bikini butt in the last one. I watch em on mute so no idea about the language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg86emJjbwk MAN'S BEST FRIEND FAILS AT THINGS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFO7YIK79So Haven't watched this one yet, but hey, it's failarmy so it's bound to be good.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:
Wow. Pro click. This might be the single best weekly compilation they've had. The shark attack opening is a thing of beauty.
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MisterBibs posted:It's  Hitting a normal‐rear end bridge is understandable. It’s dumb, but I can see how a person could become complacent and do it. But this absolutely does not look like an opening a truck would fit through.
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Chichevache posted:Wow. Pro click. This might be the single best weekly compilation they've had. The shark attack opening is a thing of beauty. Oh man, I love the guy in the stands at 4:06 
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Chichevache posted:Wow. Pro click. This might be the single best weekly compilation they've had. The shark attack opening is a thing of beauty. "Ryan's going to kick me really hard in the back with light tubes taped to his feet" And then he's lying there in pain. What did he think was going to happen? Thank you random idiots for deciding to do these things, the people who pay no money to enjoy it appreciate it. The little kid with the piano playing himself off was pretty great too.
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Memento posted:"Ryan's going to kick me really hard in the back with light tubes taped to his feet" This one I didn't like. I doubt those idjits cleaned up every little bit of broken glass on a playground.
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Fluoro tubes were real popular in pro-wrestling deathmatches and then backyard wrestling which is no doubt what those kids were trying to emulate. Edit: here's a taste, there's a whooooole bunch of youtube videos if anyone wants to see this in action    Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 13:36 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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So how many different kinds of cancer will they be dying from?
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Say Nothing posted:Hello. Sweet, thanks. Saving it this time.
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