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For the record, your MMR and comp placement change depend on your individual performance as a player as well as whether or not your team loses. If you pop into this thread to bitch about how your rating sucks because your team made you lose, you are Dunning-Kruger as gently caress.
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Brosnan posted:For the record, your MMR and comp placement change depend on your individual performance as a player as well as whether or not your team loses. If you pop into this thread to bitch about how your rating sucks because your team made you lose, you are Dunning-Kruger as gently caress. Personal performance only affects how much it changes, whether you win or lose determines which direction it goes.
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and whether you win or lose is dependent on your personal ability to play, on average
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I've done solo queue about 90% of the time since the game launched and I have never seen such lousy players as those in Competitive. I never ever felt frustrated or angry at a lovely teammate until Competitive launched.
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hhhat posted:So if anyone wants to team up and we can help each other, at least I know there's a solid chance your team will get more kills with me around. Whats your bnet info
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Afraid of Audio posted:and whether you win or lose is dependent on your personal ability to play, on average Right, on average. But the scenario where you play best out of the 12 and still have your rank go down isn't even close to an impossibility.
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Papercut posted:Right, on average. But the scenario where you play best out of the 12 and still have your rank go down isn't even close to an impossibility. no but the scenario where over some amount of games that consistently happens is unlikely at best
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Jul 1, 2016 20:12
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mcvey posted:Whats your bnet info Meldon#1403 looking for fun teams to team on!
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http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745504371#post-3 This should be in the OP - Kaplan goes into detail about everything.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I'm still wondering if 76's heal + the cart heal stack. I think it does 76's heal definitely stacks with other forms of healing at least
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Jul 1, 2016 20:20
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They should do a weekly brawl where it's just plain Overwatch but with every ult removed.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I think it does Nice, I wasn't sure but I was putting one there because it looked cool and I'm an OK player who knows to stick to the payload. Jeff Kaplan posted:If you played in any of these (over 10 million players did), we had already determined a skill rating for you (most likely). This means that it’s not uncommon to see a level 1 matchmade against much higher level players. In most of these cases, the Level 1 is a skilled player who played during the phases I mentioned but did not immediately play at launch. This is interesting and I didn't know the seed went that far back. Still trying to determine how I ended up 5 points higher than 2 of my friends who are way better than me.
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Jul 1, 2016 20:23
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Wheeee posted:They should do a weekly brawl where it's just plain Overwatch but with every ult removed. It'd probably end up being a little too popular and make Blizzard feel uncomfortable.
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I played with a level 2 a couple nights ago and he was an awesome Lucio. Everyone was joking with him before the round but he knew what he was doing.
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Wheeee posted:They should do a weekly brawl where it's just plain Overwatch but with every ult removed. You shut your mouth
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Finally finished my placement matches. 8-2, ended up at 59. Not a ton of medals and I feel like I was carried a fair bit, but I'll take it!
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Doctor Reynolds posted:It'd probably end up being a little too popular and make Blizzard feel uncomfortable. That's the point!
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hhhat posted:Meldon#1403 looking for fun teams to team on! With all your talk I was expecting better stats :p
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Good Will Hrunting posted:http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745504371#post-3 Yeah, people should really pore over this post (that sounds sarcastic but it's not). Also shouts to goony goon ExcalZ for making a good thread that prompted Jeff's response.
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mcvey posted:With all your talk I was expecting better stats :p I said wildly inaccurate but at least I had a respectable k/d ... so what you don't want to be my e-friend?
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hhhat posted:I said wildly inaccurate but at least I had a respectable k/d ... so what you don't want to be my e-friend? based off how you talk in the thread, no
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Afraid of Audio posted:based off how you talk in the thread, no I'm so sorry Yeah, again, game's different than anything else I've played, despite being an FPS, there's a lot more going on than just shooty dodgy I think the initial rush of 'YAY NEW GAME' has worn off already so a lot of the players I initially added to the friends list are falling away and doing other games already Whatever solo q is still better than Battlefront
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Jul 1, 2016 20:37
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Where's the zen buffs and improvements to custom game interface Blizzard
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Brosnan posted:For the record, your MMR and comp placement change depend on your individual performance as a player as well as whether or not your team loses. If you pop into this thread to bitch about how your rating sucks because your team made you lose, you are Dunning-Kruger as gently caress. The problem of that is that it involves trusting the system blindly. I don't mind that the system is evaluating how bad I am but we don't know what that means exactly. Even Jeff K's post won't go into the fine details.
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And I hope they never go into fine details because 100% of the time people just try to game it and play solely to maximize their Skill Rating Matchmaking Value as a Human Points instead of just playing the video game
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Yeah if you are searching so desperately for ways to explain via the intricacies of the matchmaking system the reasons that your rating isn't accurate, it's accurate and you just suck.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:And I hope they never go into fine details because 100% of the time people just try to game it and play solely to maximize their Skill Rating Matchmaking Value as a Human Points instead of just playing the video game Something worse than that will happen. People will make stuff up since they don't know the fine details and you'll start seeing exactly what you described, but worse. I'm already seeing people saying in-game that they don't want to play supports or tanks because they get less rating and that some streamer said that. People already do that in other games where they try to game the system even if the system isn't public and it sucks. Brosnan posted:Yeah if you are searching so desperately for ways to explain via the intricacies of the matchmaking system the reasons that your rating isn't accurate, it's accurate and you just suck. That's not really the point, though. The system feels accurate enough for me.
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nickhimself posted:The funniest messages in chat are when someone complains about no one playing support It's always the guy who picked last picked Widow on a team with Hanzo, Genji, Soldier, Roadhog, Winston. Afraid of Audio posted:no but the scenario where over some amount of games that consistently happens is unlikely at best To add to this point, 12 games is not data. 100 games might be closer to real data. FranktheBank fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:And I hope they never go into fine details because 100% of the time people just try to game it and play solely to maximize their Skill Rating Matchmaking Value as a Human Points instead of just playing the video game they do that anyway but in ways that aren't actually helping them or anybody else because they're just guessing
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If they made the metrics that determine skill the meaningful metrics that also help teams win games, that would be good IMO because more people would be playing to win.
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Attestant posted:Yup, played a few quick play games, did well and figured why not. I'll risk a pub ranked game. Gold heals and objective time, as Lucio? Clearly you are a gaming god
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the matchmaking doesn't measure the friends you make along your gaming journey
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Elentor posted:Something worse than that will happen. People will make stuff up since they don't know the fine details and you'll start seeing exactly what you described, but worse. Proper response: "And if you lose you get NO rating, so stop trying to race and start trying to win."
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mormonpartyboat posted:the matchmaking doesn't measure the friends you make along your gaming journey This is a good attitude to have.
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It seems like whatever algorithm they have set up uses medals as a metric, and since healing is almost always a guaranteed gold they tried to account for it so you didn't end up with a ladder full of level 85 Lucio mains not able to matchmake because DPS all have to split the damage/elims medals. They just missed their target low by about 10%, and they're probably happier to miss it low than high.
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mormonpartyboat posted:the matchmaking doesn't measure the friends you make along your gaming journey god bless us everyone
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I've had a good time going solo for Quick Play since the game's release, but for the past two days the games have been very low quality. So many one-sided games. It's actually encouraging me to stick to Competitive, even with some of the issues it has right now.
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Mierenneuker posted:I've had a good time going solo for Quick Play since the game's release, but for the past two days the games have been very low quality. So many one-sided games. Playing as Mercy in quickplay is an absurd feeling. My teammates are both dumb and can't aim and run around into packs of 4 enemies, dying alone. It's a pointless endeavor.
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Brosnan posted:Yeah if you are searching so desperately for ways to explain via the intricacies of the matchmaking system the reasons that your rating isn't accurate, it's accurate and you just suck.
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