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Munkeymon posted:Yeah, I meant Fog Creek. Haven't heard about their bug tracker(?) written in a bespoke, artisanal VB knockoff () in about a decade, so I figured they went under.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Calling this as the top of the bubble.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I assume they're still going, Joel himself has that "indestructible charismatic Web designer" archetype down cold so he will always land on his feet even if he's producing zero of value. It's been years since I've read any of his or Jeff Atwood's writings (I at least found Jeff to be a pretty okay guy) and I had to search the company just to make sure it still existed. You can Google "Street View" the actual office. I can't speak at all for his paid products, but I've had a major crush on StackOverflow since it went live.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 16:18 |
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pangstrom posted:Surely that's a joke, right? Probably. It was actually on LinkedIn but has since been removed. And SoundCloud doesn't have an office in Geneva.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 16:24 |
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Space Gopher posted:In other words, it's the internet Peter Thiel sees when he's alone at night. gently caress, thanks for the explanation.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 16:47 |
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Quote-Unquote posted:Probably. It was actually on LinkedIn but has since been removed. And SoundCloud doesn't have an office in Geneva. Eugene Murman has a big bit about how garbo linkedin is in fact checking so I'm not surprised. Like for years his account credited him as an executive at at&t because he typed it in and they never bother verifying anything.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 17:06 |
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Coolness Averted posted:Eugene Murman has a big bit about how garbo linkedin is in fact checking so I'm not surprised. Like for years his account credited him as an executive at at&t because he typed it in and they never bother verifying anything. I wouldn't expect Linkedin to verify what your job is, that would be a pretty monumental task for how many users they have.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 17:30 |
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Let's be honest LinkedIn kind of sucks. I got zero interviews thanks to it and most of the job postings seemed to be "you are required to be bill Gates and also a unicorm."
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Let's be honest LinkedIn kind of sucks. I got zero interviews thanks to it and most of the job postings seemed to be "you are required to be bill Gates and also a unicorm." edit: I have gotten multiple interviews from Linkedin recruiters but in my experience it's most useful as a glorified directory of (ex)-coworkers/fellow alumni who you then contact offsite Soy Division fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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JamesKPolk posted:gently caress, thanks for the explanation. Don't forget that in order to get on the network, you have to buy your network address from Moldbug, because any other arrangement would be communism.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/01/tech-tax-san-francisco-homelessness-inequality?CMP=fb_guquote:‘Tech tax’: San Francisco mulls plan for taxing the rich to house the poor loving do it already.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 21:28 |
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A minor tax on the rich to help out the poor is “a dangerously dumb idea” that is “profoundly reckless and self-defeating”? Amazing.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 22:34 |
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The following argument has been iterated many times in this thread, but techies are just scapegoats and really are undeserving targets for clueless liberals' frustration towards the cost of living in SF and the rest of the Bay Area. D & D posters and other progressives constantly complain about how millennials are not doing well economically and how they should have better opportunities, while in the same breath chastise young techies for making too much money. The policies enacted by the landed gentry in SF and the rest of the Bay Area to limit the housing supply are the real reason why it is so expensive to live there. In an ideal world, the landowners would pay for the homeless shelters through their property taxes.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 01:02 |
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heres how it will go. 1. raises $120m in taxes to build poor people housing 2. is immediately shot down by voters who dont want to ruin their neighborhood
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 01:09 |
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cheese posted:A minor tax on the rich to help out the poor is “a dangerously dumb idea” that is “profoundly reckless and self-defeating”? Amazing. If you don't keep a good supply of poors around to instill fear, how will you keep the petite bougoisie towing the line?
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 01:20 |
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It always strikes me as funny when people decry SFs high gini coefficient. Thats basically proof we haven't evicted all the poors.
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Platonicsolid posted:If you don't keep a good supply of poors around to instill fear, how will you keep the petite bougoisie towing the line? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEUh4FZIf8E
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go3 posted:heres how it will go. Amendment: Anyone caught supporting any measures (including other people) preventing new construction is subject to a three strikes law, whereby after the third offense your home is bought by the government at the price prop 13 sets your taxes at. Tears shed for having to "leave your neighborhood" will be collected to combat the drought.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 04:53 |
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Gail Wynand posted:5 years of React and ES6 experience required I've gotten straight-up unsolicited job offers via LinkedIn, despite not having anything about what I've actually worked on for the past dozen years on the site
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 05:36 |
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cheese posted:A minor tax on the rich to help out the poor is “a dangerously dumb idea” that is “profoundly reckless and self-defeating”? Amazing. The job creator is rare creature, easily startled. It must be coaxed carefully with tax breaks and financial incentives. It is elusive but important to the ecosystem; without it the system will no doubt collapse. Take great care to avoid presenting things it does not like or it will burn everything down.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 06:02 |
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cheese posted:A minor tax on the rich to help out the poor is “a dangerously dumb idea” that is “profoundly reckless and self-defeating”? Amazing.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 08:13 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Let's be honest LinkedIn kind of sucks. I got zero interviews thanks to it and most of the job postings seemed to be "you are required to be bill Gates and also a unicorm." Meanwhile, other industries have dozens of people competing for unpaid internships so that they can get years of experience for highly competitive "entry-level" positions that hardly pay anything. Those are not industries where recruiters use LinkedIn.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 08:18 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The job creator is rare creature, easily startled. It must be coaxed carefully with tax breaks and financial incentives. It is elusive but important to the ecosystem; without it the system will no doubt collapse. Take great care to avoid presenting things it does not like or it will burn everything down. Offer a tax break for guillotine occupancy.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 14:49 |
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ShadowHawk posted:But why only tax tech specifically? There are plenty of finance industry 1%ers in San Francisco, and I think the city already has a local income tax.
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Surely there's a way to do that through a progressive payroll tax that wouldn't affect businesses that aren't paying extremely high wages? Because afterwards deciding what is "tech" or not is going to get messy really fast.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:14 |
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yeah property taxes and a highly progressive payroll tax are probably the best ways to take care of this
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Shazback posted:Surely there's a way to do that through a progressive payroll tax that wouldn't affect businesses that aren't paying extremely high wages? Because afterwards deciding what is "tech" or not is going to get messy really fast. lol tech. Untold billions are offered up at the altar of pinprick blood mysticism kits, automated highway guillotines, cadmium-infused Weight Watchers, and smartphone jitney services, but accounting software to impose an industry-specific payroll tax? That's black magic. Can't be done. Not possible. No siree.
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Kobayashi posted:lol tech. Untold billions are offered up at the altar of pinprick blood mysticism kits, automated highway guillotines, cadmium-infused Weight Watchers, and smartphone jitney services, but accounting software to impose an industry-specific payroll tax? That's black magic. Can't be done. Not possible. No siree. how would you judge which tech startup to tax? revenues? if so,
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:38 |
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Aliquid posted:how would you judge which tech startup to tax? revenues? if so, Wait wait wait, are folks in this thread actually claiming that there's no way to selectively or preferentially by industry? Ever heard of tv/movie production? Aerospace? This is pretty loving common.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:42 |
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Solkanar512 posted:Wait wait wait, are folks in this thread actually claiming that there's no way to selectively or preferentially by industry? Ever heard of tv/movie production? Aerospace? This is pretty loving common. hey i just want to gently caress bankers and consultants just as hard, friend
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:46 |
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Accounting how does it work.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:04 |
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Feinne posted:Offer a tax break for guillotine occupancy.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:08 |
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Solkanar512 posted:Wait wait wait, are folks in this thread actually claiming that there's no way to selectively or preferentially by industry? Ever heard of tv/movie production? Aerospace? This is pretty loving common.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:20 |
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my app coordinates the crafty contractor with home depot parking lots. i'm in the construction industry
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:21 |
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twodot posted:If you think it's straightforward to legally define "the tech industry", you should be able to offer a definition. As an example of why this might be hard, see the poster including "cadmium-infused Weight Watchers" in tech. Yet somehow the government already does this for foreign worker visas and tax incentives that target the tech industry. You may be right though, Google might just have put Floral Design business on their incorporation documentation and there is just no way to classify an industry.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 19:17 |
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ocrumsprug posted:Yet somehow the government already does this for foreign worker visas and tax incentives that target the tech industry. This is how they classify industries. But it's all based on self-identification AFAIK so it works a lot better for carrots than sticks, if you start taxing some NAICS codes higher than others than everyone's just gonna pick different codes to describe their businesses.
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Aliquid posted:yeah property taxes and a highly progressive payroll tax are probably the best ways to take care of this except replace Gun Violence with Getting Rich Tech Companies To Pay Their Share. If only there were some way to take money from rich tech companies without hurting other business, besides the obvious of progressive payroll tax raises! Shame really.
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Guy DeBorgore posted:This is how they classify industries. twodot posted:If you think it's straightforward to legally define "the tech industry", you should be able to offer a definition. As an example of why this might be hard, see the poster including "cadmium-infused Weight Watchers" in tech. They could just make a loving list.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 21:29 |
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CEO score on a standardized lolbertarian test + median number of "well, actually" tweets per employee should do it.
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Ya, great idea. Let's drive out all the tech companies keeping the city afloat and let SF complete it's transformation into a 3rd world slum. Not to mention it's a pointless idea anyway, as has been mentioned, that 150 million of housing revenue means gently caress all when there's nowhere in the city to build said housing, and no neighborhood will want it in its backyard.
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