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Jose posted:knifing boris in the back has killed gove's leadership bid lol. leadsom has said she'll invoke article 50 immediately as well Boris and Gove stabbing each other to clear the way for May and Leadsom will make for a fascinating tell all book in a few years.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:04
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The Regular Features gang ruminate on Brexit: https://soundcloud.com/regularfeatures/197-cleaning-out-our-sad-pipes
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Jul 3, 2016 11:09
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qhat posted:Leadsom might be the least terrible choice? may is almost certainly a better choice
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Jul 3, 2016 11:11
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nuclear fire from the skies is the best choice at this point
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Jul 3, 2016 11:13
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Has this been posted yet? James Delingpole: Michael Gove — the next Margaret Thatcher
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Can I join the Labour Party if I'm not a UK citizen? I am a resident and I'd like to help out Corbs if I can.
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Antti posted:Boris and Gove stabbing each other to clear the way for May and Leadsom will make for a fascinating tell all book in a few years. Given Gove's repeated insistences that he doesn't want to be PM I'd almost suspect it to be a deliberate plot to just get rid of Boris, but that would mean that Gove had devised a plan that actually worked so maybe not
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Rachel Shabi is rapidly becoming my favourite journalist in this quagmire. From last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mw8aH-uUP4 Miftan posted:Can I join the Labour Party if I'm not a UK citizen? I am a resident and I'd like to help out Corbs if I can. Yes you can.
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Miftan posted:Can I join the Labour Party if I'm not a UK citizen? I am a resident and I'd like to help out Corbs if I can. My partner's a resident non-citizen who joined last year to vote for Corbyn. He hasn't been purged yet so it seems to be alright.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:24
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Jose posted:may is almost certainly a better choice which is why she won't win lmao peter hitchens today referred to her as a 'blairite' for daring to be enthusiastic about women's rights
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Jul 3, 2016 11:29
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Jose posted:may is almost certainly a better choice I don't trust anyone in the contest but I guess I also don't trust Tories in general, especially not Theresa May.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:30
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Miftan posted:Can I join the Labour Party if I'm not a UK citizen? I am a resident and I'd like to help out Corbs if I can. Yes, the rulebook says UK/Irish citizenship _or_ 1 year residency.
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Jesus christ, didn't the EU say that the UK isn't getting any negotiation before they trigger Article 50 like a million times by now?
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Jul 3, 2016 11:47
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So apparently a new study suggests about 70% of 18-24 year-olds voted in the referendum, which is about double the previous estimated turnout. Looks like young people were bothered about this after all!
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Jul 3, 2016 11:53
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radmonger posted:Yes, the rulebook says UK/Irish citizenship _or_ 1 year residency. Incidentally, the reason the Labour party gets politically hosed by EU immigration is that the several million people in that category pay tax, are integrated into the economy, but don't get to vote in national elections/referenda. By demographics/socioeconomic status, those votes would be easily enough to reverse both the referendum and the last election. But without them having votes, there is much lessl political downside to racism against them. Fun hypothetical; resident Commonwealth citizens do get to vote, without having to go through the process of claiming permanent citizenship. So if the entirety of the EU applied to join the Commonwealth, that would create a pro-EU, working class voting block that would change the UK political landscape beyond recognition.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:54
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https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/749549822156349440 How the gently caress are these so good.
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vegetables posted:So apparently a new study suggests about 70% of 18-24 year-olds voted in the referendum, which is about double the previous estimated turnout. Looks like young people were bothered about this after all! It's almost like FPTP nonsense and barely being able to slip a rizla paper between reduces engagement. Whod a thunk it.
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Miftan posted:Jesus christ, didn't the EU say that the UK isn't getting any negotiation before they trigger Article 50 like a million times by now? I've noticed that the UK seems to think they're negotiating from a position of any power whatsoever. I guess they're following the examples of the US(spends all it's money on shiny toys and is itching for any excuse to use them) and Putin(noted Shadiest Man On The loving Planet) but without any of those actual "advantages". I guess it comes from the "EU desperately needs the UK" lie and everyone's been drinking the kool-aid.
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Chucat posted:https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/749549822156349440 Whenever I lose all faith in humanity I just need to remember that there's literally a Funny Wint Tweet for every loving situation imaginable. It brightens my day.
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Jul 3, 2016 12:12
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vegetables posted:So apparently a new study suggests about 70% of 18-24 year-olds voted in the referendum, which is about double the previous estimated turnout. Looks like young people were bothered about this after all! The gently caress were they using for the previous estimate then?
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Jul 3, 2016 12:20
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress were they using for the previous estimate then? A back of the envelope calculation done by somebody on twitter.
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Jul 3, 2016 12:23
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XMNN posted:nuclear fire from the skies is the best choice at this point Hail SS-18-Satan, may his nuclear fire cleanse the earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_4yGGS85M
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Jul 3, 2016 12:24
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Ashcroft's poll IIRC.
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Jul 3, 2016 12:26
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I almost remember that there was some point that I believed the Labour Party might actually be able to be competent one day I don't remember when this was exactly or what on earth would have given me that belief
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Jul 3, 2016 12:29
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Extreme0 posted:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14594967.Corbyn_s_new_Shadow_Scottish_Secretary_attacked_the_Barnett_Formula/?ref=mrb&lp=4 But... isn't the Barnett Formula desperately in need of review as it's wildly unfair to places that aren't the south-east? I mean, that's not what a review now would do, but... it DOES need reviewing doesn't it?
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Jul 3, 2016 12:32
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Why is Labour so loving hosed up?
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress were they using for the previous estimate then? An Ashcroft poll that undersampled 18-24s by a massive margin. I'm talking, only half as many 18-24s in the weighted sample as there should have been. Also, it's understandable that youth turnout would be depressed during exam season, and during the time of the year students move back home. TinTower fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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Jul 3, 2016 12:39
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dex_sda posted:Why is Labour so loving hosed up? In 1996, Tony Blair went to a little shop in Hong Kong and bought a monkey's paw.
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Jul 3, 2016 12:40
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Interesting read about the Labour Coup that's been in the making since Corbyn looked to win the leadership contest. http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/01/senior-labour-party-insider-says-plan-oust-corbyn-play-10-months-ago-exclusive/
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Jul 3, 2016 12:49
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:I'm doing my best to explain to people that the closest the Labour left have gotten to antisemitism was Jim Murphy blocking a Jewish candidate for councillor because he decided she was an antisemite, but I'm mostly just getting screamed at in response. Jim Murphy is Labour right, not Labour left. And she was a candidate for the National Executive Committee, not a councillor (and therefore MUCH more important), and she was the only prospective Jewish candidate.
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Extreme0 posted:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14594967.Corbyn_s_new_Shadow_Scottish_Secretary_attacked_the_Barnett_Formula/?ref=mrb&lp=4 He signed that in 2006. I would guess he probably wasn't acting in his capacity as Shadow Scottish Secretary 10 years ago.
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Jul 3, 2016 12:57
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Jim Murphy is Labour right, not Labour left. And she was a candidate for the National Executive Committee, not a councillor (and therefore MUCH more important), and she was the only prospective Jewish candidate. But hey, at least we've got Luke Akehurst to speak for Jewish Labour members! 
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Gonzo McFee posted:Interesting read about the Labour Coup that's been in the making since Corbyn looked to win the leadership contest. maybe shouldn't have resigned every hour on the hour making it look very obviously organised rather than the result of benn being sacked
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Jul 3, 2016 12:59
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Jose posted:maybe shouldn't have resigned every hour on the hour making it look very obviously organised rather than the result of benn being sacked But if they'd dragged it out over the week or two it might have taken them to make decisions, Chilcott would have come out in the interim. I honestly cannot ever hope to understand the thought process going on there.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Jim Murphy is Labour right, not Labour left. And she was a candidate for the National Executive Committee, not a councillor (and therefore MUCH more important), and she was the only prospective Jewish candidate. And oh yeah, I forgot it was for the NEC. I don't think my brain could handle Jim Murphy somehow still being influential at that level.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/685716/Boris-Johnson-Michael-Gove-Rachel-Johnson-Brexit-EU-referendum-Tory-leadership Glad its not just me who thinks that Gove is a psychopath.
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