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For forty years, you have been asking: Who is John Bull? This is John Bull speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not specify his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of Europe and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing—you who dread brexits—I am the man who will now tell you. Welcome to the UK Marxism Thread, where we discuss dialectical materialism and high voltage pulse generators. And Oberleutnant writes us a reading list. And hope dies. (Also UK Mega Thread, UK Manga Thread, UK Michaelgove Thread) What Happened Last Month? No, seriously, what happened last month? Anyone? SpaceDrake posted:What you have to understand is that this whole thing is literally the plot of The Producers. Even with my skeptical view of the EU I find little joy in this. I didn't vote Leave, because voting Leave with no plan on a mandate of "£350m a week, 75m Turkmen, Take Back Control!" is a bad idea. So What Actually Happened? 52% of the participants decided to vote Leave with no plan on a mandate of "£350m a week, 75m Turkmen, Take Back Control!", it was a bad idea. Not all of them voted for that reason. There was Lexit and protest votes and a general anti-establishment feeling. But that's the mandate that the campaign ended up running on. It's like the country decided to vote with Verwoerd because at least he's opposed to the worst group of liberal imperialist bastards on the planet. (This also worked out well. With 52% too.) I guess the saving grace is that we don't have anyone as competent as Verwoerd actually backing it. Yet. The world financial sector was shown an important lesson about what happens when you ask for a direct vote from people who have been crushed by austerity under media demagogues. It's a shame that they won't learn anything and it's the poorest who will suffer most from this. Every thread someone mentions that there's going to be another crash ~someday~, probably from China or Trump, and we won't be able to do anything because we pissed away our chances to recover from 2008 by using austerity instead of investment. At least we took the initiative to do it on our own terms! What are the immediate consequences? The market got spooked, triggering an immediate drop in the value of sterling and 5-10% drops in markets across the world. Pound sterling value, early last Friday morning. Senior Leave campaigners stood around like a dog who has finally caught the car it was chasing, admitting that most of what they campaigned on was bullshit. The EU directly ruled out joining the EEA on the same standing as Norway or Switzerland. Scotland, which voted Remain by a significant majority, has discussed a second IndyRef. Northern Ireland, which also voted Remain, has openly discussed Irish reunification outside of a Sinn Féin barroom for the first time in quite a while, although the Unionist parties are closing ranks to shoot it down. Hopefully not literally. Spain has proposed joint sovereignty over Gibraltar and looks to be planning more border dickery. Even London has started speculating about Free City/FEZ/SEZ/Interzone status to preserve their sole industry of moving numbers and risk around on computers. Cameron has realized he hosed up bad and has announced his retirement effective as of October, leaving a The president of the European parliament has pushed for Article 50 to be expedited to before October to call Cameron's bluff. Nigel Farage made a tit out of himself in front of them all, helping smooth negotiations. Corbyn was blamed for the result by the PLP. Of course. Racist and anti-immigrant attacks are reportedly up 57% after the declaration of the result. Boris Johnson has claimed that he does not believe those who voted for the UK to leave the EU were mainly driven by anxieties about immigration. And hid from Parliament. What happens next? Presumably nothing will happen with advancing Article 50 until October, when we may well be under such luminaries as PM Fox or Gove. Osborne will be hosed because of his 'punishment budget'. He's been keeping to himself a lot lately There is no plan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95I29rCaFjA One of Gavrilo Princip's friends on Facebook posted:'Twas Brexit, and the slithy Gove What Else Is Happening? • Austin Reed and British Home Stores failed, setting the theme for the month. • Richard Huckle is sentenced to prison forever for practising the British national pastime in Malaysia, and for not being rich enough to use bribes and private yachts instead of bitcoins. • Labour MP and refugee activist Jo Cox is assassinated by a • Corbyn has started firing cabinet members who have been openly trying to sabotage him. This is obviously bad for Corbyn. • And is probably nothing to do with the Chilcot report being published in a couple of weeks. • The entire Shadow Cabinet resigned including people who were never members. • The Twitterverse decided that facts were fully optional when discussing this, even when corrected by the people that they were discussing. • Wrexham is the latest 'sundown town' to use pisspos to criminalize being homeless during the hours of darkness. • Zero Gravitas got a towel thing with an octopus on it and it's the only thing that wasn't trash to happen last month. (Anecdotal) A Contrivance of Horror: A Rake's Progress UKRIP June 2016 Brextravaganza! UKMT May 2016 UKMT April 2016 UKMT March 2016 UKMT February 2016 A Ripple from the Storm Brexit Financial Crisis Thread A History of the Borders Scotpol Thread A View to a Kill EDL/Fash Thread A Partir de Maintenant Europol Thread A Very British Institution Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread A Bridge Too Far Trainchat Thread A Line in the Sand Political Cartoons Thread A Brief History of Telecommunications #ukgoons on synIRC. It's mostly active during Question Time, but there's always some people around (thanks crispix). Finally, keep the following in mind quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; Bonus rule for our EuroPol guests quote:1. I have no idea if your thread is as racist/fascist/anti-refugee as people say, but don't do that poo poo here thanks. Please rise for our international anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI-IIDtoxDE Dehumanize Yourself And Face To Brexit! Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Also this is a good post and you should read it so I'm putting it as a separate post.Oberleutnant posted:Those of you pontificating about a new PM ignoring the referendum result and refusing to get the ball rolling: you know that'd lead us straight into full fascism, right?
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Alas, poor Boris!
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Someone tell me how this is bad for Corbyn please: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748649078456782849
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RIP UK.
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand. The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand; A shape with lion body and the head of a man, A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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quote:Heydon Prowse, who fronts the BBC programme The Revolution Will Be Televised played the trick on the former Home Secretary, who has been blind since birth. sounds like a bit of a poo poo, this unsuccessful comedian
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Ratjac makes a first page bid to become the next thread leader I'll be on GMTV tomorrow
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TheRat posted:Someone tell me how this is bad for Corbyn please: Less than 99%, clearly a failure of the Corbyn administration.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748652708912046080 Gain over Conservatives
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Cruel to play that trick on a blind man, but Blunket has eyes on the inside.
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TheRat posted:Someone tell me how this is bad for Corbyn please: Jaminjami posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748652708912046080
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Why can't we bring back Blair? Was he that evil? I mean, sure his opening of the portal to the Hellscape was a blip but we can move past
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Yougov poll of Labour members: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/eprogs4gmc/TimesResults_160630_LabourMembers.pdfquote:Do you think Jeremy Corbyn should or should not continue as leader of the Labour party and fight the next general election?
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Ratjaculation posted:Why can't we bring back Blair? Was he that evil? It'll be hard for him to do his duties while he's hanging in the Hague.
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Hate crimes actually up from 63 to over 300 per week. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/30/police-report-fivefold-increase-race-hate-crimes-since-brexit-result
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 00:12 |
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Jaminjami posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748652708912046080 They haven't gone away you know
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LemonDrizzle posted:Yougov poll of Labour members: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/eprogs4gmc/TimesResults_160630_LabourMembers.pdf A rousing success for the coup!
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Guavanaut posted:Presumably nothing will happen with advancing Article 50 until October, when we may well be under such luminaries as PM Johnson or Gove. A lot can change, even in just a day.
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Noxville posted:A lot can change, even in just a day.
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Corbyn loses support among Labour party membershipquote:Since Jeremy Corbyn's victory last September YouGov research has consistently shown that Labour party members have stuck by their leader. In fact, it has been conventional wisdom in Westminster that Corbyn's support amongst the Labour membership is rock solid. This is bad for Jeremy
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I'm looking forward to this months tread breaking all-time posting records
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The Insect Court posted:Corbyn loses support among Labour party membership Until there is someone else for the disaffected to rally around against Corbyn these numbers are useless and lol at the idea that that person will be Angela Eagle
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vodkat posted:I'm looking forward to this months tread breaking all-time posting records Don't be silly, last month so many terrible things happened for us to freak out about, how could things possibly get any wors-oh god of course they will, we will find a way, I know it
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TheRat posted:Someone tell me how this is bad for Corbyn please: Look, I love JC, but come on. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/748647555769171968 Not every election went well.
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Tesseraction posted:A rousing success for the coup! It's actually not. While more people want him to resign than stay, he's currently winning every matchup, has the confidence of the membership to win an election and is the favorite in pretty much anything you can name. Why they want him to resign anyway is not explained except possibly that they feel the party will simply refuse to work unless he does.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 00:20 |
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Where are these election results coming from? Has there been by-elections or something?
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Ground floor Get hosed gove
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PiCroft posted:Where are these election results coming from? Has there been by-elections or something? Yes E.g. http://www.luton.gov.uk/news/Pages/Candidates-confirmed-for-High-Town-by-election.aspx
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LemonyTang posted:Look, I love JC, but come on. Only 3 parties stood in this seat last time it was up for a vote. Council elections are a bad indicator of anything at all.
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Fans posted:It's actually not. While more people want him to resign than stay, he's currently winning every matchup, has the confidence of the membership to win an election and is the favorite in pretty much anything you can name. Why they want him to resign anyway is not explained except possibly that they feel the party will simply refuse to work unless he does. Fans, c'mon m8, I was being sarcastic!
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Fans posted:It's actually not. While more people want him to resign than stay, he's currently winning every matchup, has the confidence of the membership to win an election and is the favorite in pretty much anything you can name. Why they want him to resign anyway is not explained except possibly that they feel the party will simply refuse to work unless he does. It's true though that just because labour members vote him as leader doesn't necessarily mean that labour voters will vote him in as PM. Those are two different demographics.
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Tesseraction posted:Fans, c'mon m8, I was being sarcastic! IT WAS JUST BANTZ?!?!? OKAY MATE LEGEND!
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PiCroft posted:Where are these election results coming from? Has there been by-elections or something? council by elections with dizzyingly high turnouts of 30%
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LemonyTang posted:Look, I love JC, but come on. on the bright side the greens came in second
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LemonyTang posted:Look, I love JC, but come on. 'Moderates' shedded and Labour still double next highest result.
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qhat posted:It's true though that just because labour members vote him as leader doesn't necessarily mean that labour voters will vote him in as PM. Those are two different demographics. He's done fine in every electoral test set so far. "Unelectable" is the refuge of people who don't have an actual reason he can't be PM.
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Fans posted:IT WAS JUST BANTZ?!?!? OKAY MATE LEGEND! *writes "Bozzzzza!!" on sticky label and puts it on u*
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oh i see. things are so loving mental at the moment for all I know an actual GE had taken place, or another referendum without me knowing
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My reaction when no Govation in the OP.
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