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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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OwlFancier posted:Gordon Brown isn't especially evil. Well he's not a saint either. I mean he's miles better then Blair and any Tory you throw at me but he's not entirely 'not' a oval office.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 23:23 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 23:24 |
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Pretend you said IDS.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 23:43 |
We'd rather pretend he no longer exists
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 23:50 |
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What the christ. https://www.rt.com/uk/349162-neo-nazi-miss-hitler/ https://twitter.com/national_action/status/746166282072928256
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 00:46 |
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She seems to really be into memes.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 00:56 |
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She doesn't look very much like hitler. I'm disappointed, I was hoping the point of a miss hitler competition would be to see who could make you sexually attracted to the fuhrer.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 01:00 |
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She does have nice eyes though. I wonder if I could convert her. With the power of my sociology degree. Coohoolin fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jul 2, 2016 |
# ? Jul 2, 2016 01:08 |
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Coohoolin posted:She does have nice eyes though. This being National Action, a fascist youth organisation - and just from the looks of things - she's probably about 15.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 04:01 |
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TomViolence posted:This being National Action, a fascist youth organisation - and just from the looks of things - she's probably about 15. Arghghghhhh whaaaaaat How is a fascist youth organisation not illegal? I mean, adults, sure, you've got the freedom to have lovely political views, but how are they allowed to go around recruiting kids?
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 04:30 |
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Coohoolin posted:Arghghghhhh whaaaaaat Don't try to deflect blame now, we all heard you. You are now legally required to stay 100 meters from any nazi schools and anywhere fascist children may be playing. You will be registered in a database so hate-mongering parents will know you're in the area.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 04:58 |
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tetsul posted:Don't try to deflect blame now, we all heard you. You are now legally required to stay 100 meters from any nazi schools and anywhere fascist children may be playing. You will be registered in a database so hate-mongering parents will know you're in the area. How will I know which schools are the nazi schools? EDIT: if you actually read the national action link *shudder* i think it says she's 19. Edit 2: nope, that's another contestant. Hah, I didn't even notice it was different people. Look at this poo poo though quote:Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why? quote:I am an NA activist living in Scotland and dedicated member of our organisation. I enjoy reading, browsing esoteric memes and watching the reds lose their poo poo over our publicity stunts. quote:Avid reader. Loves nature and animals. Loves European architecture and classical art. Enjoys walking, cooking, breathing. Memes are life. I feel so degenerate, like I’m writing a Tinder profile opening or something. Next! Even thread relevance: quote:Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why? quote:Hypothetically if you could kill one person and get away with it who would you kill and why? Argh. Coohoolin fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jul 2, 2016 |
# ? Jul 2, 2016 05:16 |
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Yeah, after they put up stickers in Glasgow I ended up reading their website. They seem like the worst of both the internet and fascism. The fawning over poo poo memes really lessens the fear factor. I mean maybe I'm just a crotchety auld fucker but "esoteric memes" is not a phrase any oval office should uttering, sincerely or otherwise.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 08:50 |
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Hope none of you have buisness in Glasgow today because the Subways are closed until August and it's Orange Walk day!
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 09:38 |
forkboy84 posted:Yeah, after they put up stickers in Glasgow I ended up reading their website. They seem like the worst of both the internet and fascism. The fawning over poo poo memes really lessens the fear factor. I mean maybe I'm just a crotchety auld fucker but "esoteric memes" is not a phrase any oval office should uttering, sincerely or otherwise. Was commenting on this earlier in Discord, and the general consensus is that when she's talking "esoteric" memes, she's talking "gently caress the jews" sorts of memes
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 09:41 |
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tithin posted:Was commenting on this earlier in Discord, and the general consensus is that when she's talking "esoteric" memes, she's talking "gently caress the jews" sorts of memes extra rare nazi pepes
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 09:58 |
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Coohoolin posted:How will I know which schools are the nazi schools? You need to ingratiate yourself with a link to the "Hitler reacts to Brexit" Downfall video. Now that's what I call "Danke, memes!"
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 10:28 |
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National Action were the ones that we sent back home to their parents and we given train tickets from antifia to go back home. They are just edgy spurglords that would Brexit their pants once they piss off a person that can actually fight more then two people at once. Basically stormfront given flesh.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 11:41 |
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Extreme0: Having now taken the chance to read through the past weeks opinion pieces in the Tory press, it would appear that the holy trinity of the Scottish right wing commentariat are all in the process of making the No to Undecided journey (depending on how things pan out over the next few months). That Sinking Feeling - Chris Deerin England has made its priorities clear - Alex Massie Having spoken about refashioning case for Scottish independence, Sturgeon now has her chance - David Torrance
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:26 |
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keep punching joe posted:Extreme0: Having now taken the chance to read through the past weeks opinion pieces in the Tory press, it would appear that the holy trinity of the Scottish right wing commentariat are all in the process of making the No to Undecided journey (depending on how things pan out over the next few months). Updated.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 22:06 |
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http://stv.tv/news/politics/1359352-dossier-of-no-campaign-broken-promises-published-by-snp/ Really? Especially at this time right now?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:45 |
Extreme0 posted:http://stv.tv/news/politics/1359352-dossier-of-no-campaign-broken-promises-published-by-snp/ It's a pre-emptive strike against an argument to stay in the UK "we listened once, and look at all the poo poo that was promised, and subsequently broken - how can we trust these liars??" I'd expect a formal announcement of indyref2 within a month tbh
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:50 |
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tithin posted:It's a pre-emptive strike against an argument to stay in the UK "we listened once, and look at all the poo poo that was promised, and subsequently broken - how can we trust these liars??" I would of waited till after the election of the new tory leader and to see what the stances of the other parties are. Doing this I feel like only alienates possible support from the other parties which is something they need.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:53 |
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The prospect of indyref2 worries me. None of the economic arguments from the first round have been answered. In fact, the collapse in oil prices if anything makes it harder to justify. Lots of previous No voters I know have turned Yes or at least undecided since the EU ref result, but all of them have cited the EU ref specifically, not a change in economics. I'm worried people are letting an emotive result cloud their judgement. I get that what we signed up to in the last ref has kinda fallen apart, but in my mind this hasn't answered the unanswered questions of the previous referendum.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:59 |
Extreme0 posted:I would of waited till after the election of the new tory leader and to see what the stances of the other parties are. Doing this I feel like only alienates possible support from the other parties which is something they need. True, Scottish Labour / Greens are ostensibly behind staying in the EU at all costs hence they were behind sending Sturgeon to Brussels to negotiate staying in. It's not a given to say that they'd support independence at all costs, but it's a reasonable assumption. My personal thoughts are that the SNP are looking at this as a time limited opportunity - public outrage will only last so long, and with Labour divided, and the tories leaderless, this is possibly their last big shot to push for independence. I'm surprised they couldn't get anyone from labour / tories to comment on the inappropriateness of this list - do the scottish lib dems even have an MP? Just my 2p
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:00 |
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I'm looking forward to a referendum 2.0 where Scotland bottles it yet again and we lean into the punches of a proper fascist government of supercharged tories for 20-odd years. Things are bad now, but there's always room for them to get worse and I don't see the downward spiral Britain is in abating for some time to come. There's no real way we can step up to the long-term challenges we're facing right now while we're shackled to the sinking corpse of an increasingly insular and stagnant England. We need to be able to collaborate across europe on things like climate change and retooling the economy or we're kind of boned regardless.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:09 |
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PiCroft posted:The prospect of indyref2 worries me. None of the economic arguments from the first round have been answered. In fact, the collapse in oil prices if anything makes it harder to justify. Lots of previous No voters I know have turned Yes or at least undecided since the EU ref result, but all of them have cited the EU ref specifically, not a change in economics. I'm worried people are letting an emotive result cloud their judgement. Unfortunately there is going to be a lot more questions now but I think the main thing that people what have in their mind is. "Are we better in the EU or the UK?", "Is it going to get better or worse in the UK?", "What will affect us now that border controls are possibly going to be a thing in", "What about my career that uses the freedom of movement to help with it?" etc, etc. There's going to be some questions that are going to be answered more clearly that they didn't in the first referendum but of course this EU referendum has brought in a lot more questions as well. I'm still voting Yes anyways because I rather not have loving border checks and freedom of movement gone towards the rest of Europe because a bunch of little englander migrant hating fucks think they can shove their bullshit in front us. gently caress I hate being half English right now. tithin posted:True, Scottish Labour / Greens are ostensibly behind staying in the EU at all costs hence they were behind sending Sturgeon to Brussels to negotiate staying in. It's not a given to say that they'd support independence at all costs, but it's a reasonable assumption. Scottish Greens are going to be supporting Indy regardless. We don't know about Scottish Labour or the Scottish Liberial Democrats (It's in the OP) Also the Scottish Lib Dems do have an MP. One that almost lost his seat to a court battle; Alistair Carmichael TomViolence posted:I'm looking forward to a referendum 2.0 where Scotland bottles it yet again. If Scotland stays. I'm going to find the nearest loving rope and just give up entirely. Extreme0 fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Jul 3, 2016 |
# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:19 |
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 04:03 |
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TomViolence posted:I'm looking forward to a referendum 2.0 where Scotland bottles it yet again I'm looking forward to idiots growing up and not describing people voting a different way as "bottling it" PiCroft posted:The prospect of indyref2 worries me. None of the economic arguments from the first round have been answered. In fact, the collapse in oil prices if anything makes it harder to justify. Lots of previous No voters I know have turned Yes or at least undecided since the EU ref result, but all of them have cited the EU ref specifically, not a change in economics. I'm worried people are letting an emotive result cloud their judgement. Economic arguments against yes from last time - uncertainly would tank the economy - not being in Europe was cause problems as finance and multi nationals move to other European countries given we now already have these two the uncertainty is around the currency now, and the pound is looking a bit hosed so .....
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 09:14 |
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Whoever brought up Runrig the other day, you have a lot to answer for! Listened to little else on this 10 hour coach trip.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 12:07 |
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List is updated again But now...more News!...news? Independent Scotland joining EU could be part of Brexit "package deal" quote:BREXIT could be expanded into a “package deal” that lets an independent Scotland stay in the EU as well as allowing the UK to leave it, according to an expert on European law. quote:THE relationship between Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale and her deputy has completely broken down, according to a senior party source. SNP Deputy Leader position is now going to be contested by Angus Roberston & Christopher McEleny. MEP Alyn Smith and MP Tommy Sheppard are considering it. Ruth Davidson appears to be dodging the question if she is Pro-EU or Pro-UK by saying she is both despite the TV presenter stating the obvious that you can't anymore. And once the Queen came to visit the Scottish Parliament, Angela Constance wore the perfect? (citation needed) heels for this event.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 14:43 |
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Hahaha holy poo poo those heels. Ok everything is just wonderfully bizarre. Scotlab tearing itself up over Corbyn, the EU pretty much winking at us to bail and go party with them, and Ruthie being Ruthie. Oh and Nicola is still fantastic. quote:"We are more than five million men and women - adults, young people and children - each with our own life stories, family histories and our own hopes and dreams.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:23 |
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Coohoolin posted:Hahaha holy poo poo those heels. Sturgeon is a beacon of normalcy in the hellscape known as british politics
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:33 |
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jre posted:I'm looking forward to idiots growing up and not describing people voting a different way as "bottling it" Do you feel as charitable about the Brexit result I wonder? It's entirely fine and grown up to think the people who made a bad decision made the wrong decision. Though really I was more talking about the giving in to fear and negativity that characterised those in the no camp and, oddly enough, seems to have clinched the Leave vote in the EU referendum too -- not that there was a side offering any hope in that one.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 16:50 |
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chamon mothafucka
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 18:55 |
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Looking forward to leave voters chanting "this is fine, this is fine" as the top of the UK falls off.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 19:59 |
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I'm just facepalming over how a rare few Scottish Nationalists for indy back in the first indyref are now gone to stay in the UK because they don't want shackled in the EU. Completely missing the fact that Scotland joining the EU was the intention regardless of fast-tracking or not back in the first referendum. Regarde Aduck posted:Looking forward to leave voters chanting "this is fine, this is fine" as the top of the UK falls off. It's fitting considering Scotland can be considered the head therefor the brain of the Island.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 20:05 |
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TomViolence posted:Do you feel as charitable about the Brexit result I wonder? It's entirely fine and grown up to think the people who made a bad decision made the wrong decision. Though really I was more talking about the giving in to fear and negativity that characterised those in the no camp and, oddly enough, seems to have clinched the Leave vote in the EU referendum too -- not that there was a side offering any hope in that one. Again, you could grow up a bit and realise that people voted no in the indy ref not out of " fear and negativity" but because the case for independence put forward by the SNP was awful. People voted no because they believed it was the best thing for the country , not because they were afraid or bottled it. Also "project fear" was how the remain camp was characterised, indeed I recall Boris Johnstone giving it "hope over fear" at one stage so your second point doesn't make any sense at all.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 20:12 |
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jre posted:Again, you could grow up a bit and realise that people voted no in the indy ref not out of " fear and negativity" but because the case for independence put forward by the SNP was awful. People voted no because they believed it was the best thing for the country , not because they were afraid or bottled it. People didn't vote out of fear because the SNP weren't able to put together a sound enough case to overcome uncertainty/fear that came from being a separate entity to the UK?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 21:08 |
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Kin posted:People didn't vote out of fear because the SNP weren't able to put together a sound enough case to overcome uncertainty/fear that came from being a separate entity to the UK? They didn't make a sound case that it would make things better for the people of Scotland. "fear" is implying that independence is the only right choice but people "bottled" making that decision. People voted no for rational reasons, hard core nationalists who based their decision on emotion and patriotic sentiment just don't seem to be able to get this because that's not how they made their decision. Both leave campaigns used national exceptionalism and emotive rhetoric to hand wave away any kind of serious question about how would things be better.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 21:20 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 23:24 |
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Fans of the Sunday Herald will enjoy this heartwarming display of European solidarity on the front page: http://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/749347303702597632 Fans of hating the Sunday Herald will enjoy that apparently most of the translations are incorrect.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 22:27 |