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Rather than trying to limit voting by IQ, I think a better approach is to just make it illegal to vote if you have some form of arts degree, and directly associate that with mental illness...I mean these people took on probably tens of thousands of debt to get a completely pointless and stupid degree, that no sane person respects in any shape or form, and will probably hamper their career prospects rather than help them unless it is from somewhere like OxBridge where smelling a fart gets you a $100k+ a year job. I am thinking specifically of things like sociology (should have done medicine instead son!), criminal justice (why not law my dear?), politics (should have been law again you useless oval office!), or drama/film and TV (lol you will never get a job as you look like that Krang girl and are basically indirectly funding McDonalds).These people failed basic logic and reasoning tests on future earnings and value to society, so why let them vote over a plumber or builder who is actively contributing to society, sometimes literally on a brick by brick basis.
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spud posted:Rather than trying to limit voting by IQ, think a better approach is to just make it illegal to vote if you have some form of arts degree, and directly associate that with mental illness...I mean these people took on probably tens of thousands of debt to get a completely pointless and stupid degree, that no sane person respects in any shape or form, and will probably hamper their career prospects rather than help them unless it is from somewhere like OxBridge where smelling a fart gets you a $100k+ a year job. I am thinking specifically of things like sociology (should have done medicine instead son!), criminal justice (why not law my dear?), politics (should have been law again you useless oval office!), or drama/film and TV (lol you will never get a job as you look like that Krang girl and are basically indirectly funding McDonalds).These people failed basic logic and reasoning tests on future earnings and value to society, so why let them vote over a plumber or builder who is actively contributing to society, sometimes literally on a brick by brick basis.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:32
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we should just reboot and do anarchy again and let things shake out naturally yeah it'll suck for humans for a few hundred years maybe but we might come out with something better on the other side
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Jul 3, 2016 22:33
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Moridin920 posted:we should just reboot and do anarchy again and let things shake out naturally I am the feudal lord of Norwich city center, fetch me the hubcaps of a rover 620 to prove your fielty and you shall be rewarded greatly with two buckets of KFC.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:37
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blowfish posted:yes, thatcher bad Actually, Thatcher was responsible for the rebate on those EU membership dues. It's why the UK never actually paid that "£350 million per week" lauded by Farage, Johnson, and the rest of the Leave faction, it was an instant rebate. You can bet that's loving gone.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:45
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Young Freud posted:Actually, Thatcher was responsible for the rebate on those EU membership dues. It's why the UK never actually paid that "£350 million per week" lauded by Farage, Johnson, and the rest of the Leave faction, it was an instant rebate.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:48
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Young Freud posted:Actually, Thatcher was responsible for the rebate on those EU membership dues. It's why the UK never actually paid that "£350 million per week" lauded by Farage, Johnson, and the rest of the Leave faction, it was an instant rebate. yeah the british deal with the EU was far far FAR better than anything that will be worked out under any other situation, including a rejoin of the eu tis a pity
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Jul 3, 2016 22:48
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Mein Eyes! posted:yeah the british deal with the EU was far far FAR better than anything that will be worked out under any other situation, including a rejoin of the eu It was hard-fought compromise. Thatcher actually wanted a 100% rebate while the French really wanted to give them only 50% at most. When she secured 66%, Thatcher cried.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:59
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:i don't agree since democratic mandates are routinely twisted or interpreted in whatever direction politicians feel like without descending into fascism but I think it would be very dangerous for the political class to attempt to go against this referendum by, for instance, trying for a deal that allows for free movement of people. The referendum campaign unleashed forces that they can't control and if they're thwarted again will cause them to flock to any far right movement that shows up to exploit the obvious weakness of the British political system. Free movement of people is tricky. Brits don't want foreigners having free movement into britain, sure enough. But they do still want Brits to have free movement through the EU. They want to have cheap french retirement cottages and cheap vacations to greece.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:04
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The best thing about Brexit is that now the left are lauding Thatcher, while the right are constantly going on about Greece's Syriza, Tony Benn, and Jeremy Corbyn. I think we're currently experiencing some kind of political backflip.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:04
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kikkelivelho posted:People in D&D were making this same argument saying people are too dumb to vote and there should be test to make sure they are informed. How is this not class warfare? If anything the referendum showed that democracy still works and the citizens of the UK still have control over their future. reminder that there isn't a DND regular who's so much as deigned to sit econ 101, and a 2 semester lit review of Das Kapital doesn't count their mastery of such subjects as critical theory and gender representation in comic books doesn't translate as well to international trade agreements and foreign relations as they think the banks and tech firms have done a fantastic PR job since the financial crisis where the sort of people who sat in for Occupy Wall Street are now all committed globalists because social media programming has conditioned them to believe they're being progressive by rooting for these monstrosities of capitalism
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Jul 3, 2016 23:07
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Facebook Aunt posted:Free movement of people is tricky. Brits don't want foreigners having free movement into britain, sure enough. But they do still want Brits to have free movement through the EU. They want to have cheap french retirement cottages and cheap vacations to greece. Well they can't have british retirement cottages because they all cost millions of pounds and are bought up by retiring european bankers and americans who watched a bunch of british tv and want to live in a tiny village where the vicar murders everyone by putting strychnine in their tea and OMG THAT'S SO QUAINT
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Jul 3, 2016 23:08
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RobattoJesus posted:The best thing about Brexit is that now the left are lauding Thatcher Lot of left-wing people are attending "hey my part of the country didn't vote for this poo poo" protests. You'll see people with banners like "you hosed our future" being held up by people who don't understand that the government's climbdown on austerity after this vote means there's probably going to be (relatively) more funding for things that are currently being tanked like education and local government which tends to have more flexible employment hours and better creche facilities than a lot of private industry for parents, esp. mums (and if there's restriction on free movement, although I don't expect there actually will be, it's going to be imperative that education gets more funding priority because firms won't just be able to bring someone educated for 22 years on someone else's coin).
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Jul 3, 2016 23:11
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jBrereton posted:Mmm not really. Not on the whole, but I've had a couple of people in-real-life claim that as a mildly pro-Brexit person I must obviously love Thatcher (I don't), but Thatcher was pro-EU (like them) so check and mate  I agree with the rest of your post though and think Brexit is actually a left-wing victory, if the left can actually be bothered to stop crying in a ditch and self harming.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:24
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jBrereton posted:Mmm not really. What "climbdown on austerity"? Not unless the Tories are removed from power and that's not going to happen unless poo poo really hits the fan and the Queen intervenes (thanks Lib Dems). Even Team Vote Leave has backpedaled away from all their promises of funding the NHS or reinvesting that money elsewhere with the now freed-up EU contribution.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:30
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etalian posted:what does non-binding mean? That means UK can ignore the result of the referendum if they admit they don't have a democratic political system.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:30
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etalian posted:It was a funny story how he agreed to do the vote since he thought it wouldn't win and it would appease various whiny Tory backbenchers. D Cameron will be remembered as a hero who started the brexit process 30 years from now by the prosperous Trans-Atlantic Union.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:35
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jBrereton posted:Why does that even matter, though? Because voting to break [thing] isn't a good idea unless you know what you want to break and why
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Jul 3, 2016 23:38
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Jul 3, 2016 23:38
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Throw both parties in the bin and call a general election. The UK is crying out for a party like the SNP, which is both socialist and patriotic (without being anti-foreigner like UKIP). Both the tories and labour seem to hate their country. I think most poor English people look at scotland and wonder why if they put up their flag they're a moron inbred racist, whereas if the Scots do it they're Mel Gibson.... wait, poo poo. blowfish posted:haha lol, even America said that Britain is basically last in line together with random third world poo poo holes when it comes to trade deals. http://time.com/4382111/president-obama-on-brexit-u-s-and-u-k-special-relationship-wont-change/
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Jul 3, 2016 23:49
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Internaut! posted:the banks and tech firms have done a fantastic PR job since the financial crisis where the sort of people who sat in for Occupy Wall Street are now all committed globalists because social media programming has conditioned them to believe they're being progressive by rooting for these monstrosities of capitalism Oh man it's true
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Jul 3, 2016 23:51
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RobattoJesus posted:http://time.com/4382111/president-obama-on-brexit-u-s-and-u-k-special-relationship-wont-change/ You will notice that after the feelgood special relationship intro (lol what special relationship, the only thing where America and Mediocre Britain have worked together extra closely in the post Soviet era was killing some terrists), Obama basically called the UK an insignificant shithole.
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Jul 3, 2016 23:55
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blowfish posted:You will notice that after the feelgood special relationship intro (lol what special relationship, the only thing where America and Mediocre Britain have worked together extra closely in the post Soviet era was killing some terrists), Obama basically called the UK an insignificant shithole. Oh well, British people don't want anything made in America and Americans don't want anything made in Britain except each other's TV shows so whatever.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:04
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blowfish posted:doesn't actually change: trade with countries outside the EU Yeah it does. Britain doesn't have any trade deals at all with any other countries, because the EU took care of that. Britain can't make any new trade deals until they finish detaching themselves from the EU 2 years from now, because EU members aren't allowed to make outside trade deals. Once they are out they are going to be on basic WTO rules for years as they scramble to negotiate new deals with every significant trading partner.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:28
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The US already had a UK continuity bill in the senate this week. I think the republicans want to make Brexit work because Obama said Brexit was dumb and they all hate Obama therefore they think Brexit is good.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:32
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Internaut! posted:the banks and tech firms have done a fantastic PR job since the financial crisis where the sort of people who sat in for Occupy Wall Street are now all committed globalists because social media programming has conditioned them to believe they're being progressive by rooting for these monstrosities of capitalism Most peeps aren't that dumb, and most progressives are still staunchly anti globalist/free trade. It's Clinton and mainstream hacks that are trying to hock this crap because Sanders and Trump made it's unpopularity extremely apparent.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:37
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blowfish posted:Because voting to break [thing] isn't a good idea unless you know what you want to break and why
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Jul 4, 2016 00:40
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NutritiousSnack posted:Most peeps aren't that dumb, and most progressives are still staunchly anti globalist/free trade. It's Clinton and mainstream hacks that are trying to hock this crap because Sanders and Trump made it's unpopularity extremely apparent. Maybe not in the US (yet) but in Britain if you're anti-globalist it's obviously because you're a racist xenophobe inbred moron.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:41
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RobattoJesus posted:Maybe not in the US (yet) but in Britain if you're anti-globalist it's obviously because you're a racist xenophobe inbred moron. Sucks to be you guys, Jesus 
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Jul 4, 2016 00:45
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RobattoJesus posted:The US already had a UK continuity bill in the senate this week. I think the republicans want to make Brexit work because Obama said Brexit was dumb and they all hate Obama therefore they think Brexit is good.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:48
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Britain still has noble titles, like dukes and knights, and has a queen who lives in a castle. lol
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Jul 4, 2016 00:49
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Globalism is unavoidable and isolation has never worked for any nation long term. Corporatism is the enemy, and that's possible not because of trade deals but because corporations are allowed to buy politicians and write the trade deals themselves. The biggest victory that neoliberals have attained is tricking everyone into thinking globalism and corporatism are the same thing.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:50
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The secret elites are determined to milk Britain for all it's worth and the average person has no power over this....whatever you vote, they win.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:50
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I mean, dressing up for the renaissance faire and getting drunk one Saturday a year is one thing. You get to throw axes and eat turkey legs. It's fun. But I wouldn't want a whole class of people who do that all-year round, and act like that's normal.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:50
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Facebook Aunt posted:Free movement of people is tricky. Brits don't want foreigners having free movement into britain, sure enough. But they do still want Brits to have free movement through the EU. They want to have cheap french retirement cottages and cheap vacations to greece. highly educated, rich and old people want those things but they can go on wanting them forever because most brits die in the podunk town they were born in and they rightly don't give a gently caress about visa free travel or roaming charges
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Jul 4, 2016 00:55
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Wikkheiser posted:Britain still has noble titles, like dukes and knights, and has a queen who lives in a castle. a thousand years of governance with like a single major upheaval does that to you
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Jul 4, 2016 00:56
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it would be tacky if like you had a modern country that reinstated noble titles and acted like it's totally normal but the UK has like actual real nobles as a class that are still alive and well and has been going on for the last 900 years at least
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Jul 4, 2016 00:58
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I like Kate she has a nice face.
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Jul 4, 2016 01:00
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Lichy posted:it would be tacky if like you had a modern country that reinstated noble titles and acted like it's totally normal but the UK has like actual real nobles as a class that are still alive and well and has been going on for the last 900 years at least
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That ginger Harry seems like a riot too.
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