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Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

Yinlock posted:

the sad thing is this is probably the most competent it's been in a long time with most of the dead weight busy going completely bonkers

that won't last i'm sure, but treasure the small time-frame we have
1997-2001 Labour were the tightest ship in modern British political history, no-one has been close to that since other than probably the SNP.

All the stuff after that is somewhat unfortunate, admittedly.

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Blair is interesting as a tale of two premierships too. The first term was full of genuine progress, especially in the realms of devolution and human rights, but after 9/11, Blair very quickly went the way of ol' George's paranoid religious apocalyptism.

https://twitter.com/pornstar1985/status/748863770064289792

qhat
Jul 6, 2015



lmao

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



TinTower posted:

Blair is interesting as a tale of two premierships too. The first term was full of genuine progress, especially in the realms of devolution and human rights, but after 9/11, Blair very quickly went the way of ol' George's paranoid religious apocalyptism.

https://twitter.com/pornstar1985/status/748863770064289792

:ohdear: Leclercs massing at the far end of the Chunnel

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

e: drunk posting, ignore me

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Illuyankas posted:

so i got a bit drunk and bought three char slots and now i have a charr alt for every class good life choices

I got to name my new ranger A Dog Person but could not name my mesmer Hippy Stalin for some reason which is bullshit

I know the UK has gone off the rails but we don't yet live in the GW2 canon. Yet.

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

gently caress

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Illuyankas posted:

gently caress

:smugdog:

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

also thank you Hippy Stalin name guy

ok goodnight

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tories might be Charr.

Didn't they set their homeland on fire for a really dumb reason?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Tories might be Charr.

Didn't they set their homeland on fire for a really dumb reason?

No, they worshipped fire Gods and obliterated Ascalon in their name.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

This is much better than anime chat. Charr are the best.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Fishing chat?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I love a charr


My chocolate chip brioches!!!!!!!!

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008
Odd - since the vote, I've been drinking nothing but Polish larger... and drat that stuff is strong
(well, some German as well...)

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Petit paine? More like... lovely... bread?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Renfield posted:

Odd - since the vote, I've been drinking nothing but Polish larger... and drat that stuff is strong
(well, some German as well...)

My local offie has an interesting Polish beer that tasted strong, so I checked the can and nearly poo poo myself when I saw '14%'

...after popping my eyes for a bit I realised that was some measurement of darkness of the beer, and the second most important value to the intended audience was alcohol percentage, which was a still-strong 7%.

I'm really curious as to why this beer has the strength as a secondary piece of info.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Tesseraction posted:

My local offie has an interesting Polish beer that tasted strong, so I checked the can and nearly poo poo myself when I saw '14%'

...after popping my eyes for a bit I realised that was some measurement of darkness of the beer, and the second most important value to the intended audience was alcohol percentage, which was a still-strong 7%.

I'm really curious as to why this beer has the strength as a secondary piece of info.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_(alcoholic_beverage)

:guinness:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


:psyduck:

I don't disagree that knowing the 'thickness' of the beer is useful but why is that more important than whether or not it's basically vodka?

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Tesseraction posted:

:psyduck:

I don't disagree that knowing the 'thickness' of the beer is useful but why is that more important than whether or not it's basically vodka?

Eh beats me.

The key take away is that "high gravity" is high alcohol party time. Barleywine and Old Ale are like 12-15% ABV. :getin:

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Polish shops are good

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I can't disagree that Polish beers are a cheap and tasty way to get fuckin' slaughtered.

Blue Star Error
Jun 11, 2001

For this recipie you will need:
Football match (Halftime of), Celebrity Owner (Motivational speaking of), Sherry (Bottle of)

Halisnacks posted:

Also, is there a UKMT consensus on who the is the best Tory candidate for PM, and any speculation on who their senior ministers would be? Are there prominent Tory MPs who would be worse than Osborne as chancellor?

For me, Stephen Crabb is the man we need to get this country moving sideways again

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

Tesseraction posted:

:psyduck:

I don't disagree that knowing the 'thickness' of the beer is useful but why is that more important than whether or not it's basically vodka?

It is a different and accurate way to measure alcohol content. I imagine this measure developed before people understood that an alcohol molecule in the beer was responsible for getting them poo poo faced. The physics of why high alcohol content = high gravity is pretty simple and interesting, but I am going to drink instead of explain it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

It is a different and accurate way to measure alcohol content. I imagine this measure developed before people understood that an alcohol molecule in the beer was responsible for getting them poo poo faced. The physics of why high alcohol content = high gravity is pretty simple and interesting, but I am going to drink instead of explain it.

*raises glass*

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Gravity doesnt always correspond to final abv, it depends if the yeast can actually go that high and if it was given enough time.

Woops mixed up original with final gravity.


(Also there is a measure of darkness and it's EBC/SRM, the one for bitterness [more accurately for beer it corresponds to Hop usage/amount] is IBU.)

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jul 4, 2016

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Tesseraction posted:

:psyduck:

I don't disagree that knowing the 'thickness' of the beer is useful but why is that more important than whether or not it's basically vodka?


pure water: 1.00 g/mL
5% alcohol: 0.99 g/mL
11% alcohol: 0.98 g/mL
19% alcohol: 0.97 g/mL
26% alcohol: 0.96 g/mL
32% alcohol: 0.95 g/mL

etc.

Rather than doing elaborate testing, just have a float that sinks to a level equal to the alcohol %.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Halisnacks posted:

What about the best from a "this person will head the government for 3.5 years" perspective? I understand the hope that having a flagrantly lovely Tory in power might tarnish the brand longer term, but this country has had such horrid governance recently that I'm really hoping for the least bad Tory option.

Well, Liam Fox would be the worst. Followed closely by Ledsom & Crabb & Gove & May. The reason I'm saying that Fox would be the best is purely because electability aside, they are all Tories. And not soft, lovey-dovey Tories. Several of them hate gays. May is a Home Secretary & I think except for Roy Jenkins & Ken Clarke Home Secretaries have all been dreadful human beings. Gove wrote a book as a young man lionising Michael Portillo, & while according to people who know him he genuinely abhors inequality because of his background, & recognises that he's where he is in a large part because he was fortunate enough to be adopted by a well off couple who were able to send him to an independent school, the bigger concern is that he's an intense ideologue who has repeatedly shown contempt for facts which disagree with his world view. And those facts would include the fact that his policies would quite likely to increase inequality because he's a loving idiot who has admitted he'd not be a good PM.

Liam Fox has come out & said that abortions are bad and has called for "huge restriction, if not abolition" on the UK's "pro-abortion laws". While Defence Secretary he was far too close with dodgy regimes in the middle east like Bahrain, he wanted The Guardian to be prosecuted for printing the Snowden revelations, he's an arch-Eurosceptic who would be a disastrous idiot in exit negotiations with the EU and he wants an end to ring-fenced NHS spending. He'd be a nightmare, which is why you hope he'd have the job for 6 months before a general election is called. It'd be a rough 6 months, but I'd rather 6 months of him than just shy of 4 years of Theresa May.

Antares
Jan 13, 2006

Dark days when Theresa May is considered the least of all possible evils

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

forkboy84 posted:

Liam Fox has come out & said that abortions are bad and has called for "huge restriction, if not abolition" on the UK's "pro-abortion laws". While Defence Secretary he was far too close with dodgy regimes in the middle east like Bahrain, he wanted The Guardian to be prosecuted for printing the Snowden revelations, he's an arch-Eurosceptic who would be a disastrous idiot in exit negotiations with the EU and he wants an end to ring-fenced NHS spending. He'd be a nightmare, which is why you hope he'd have the job for 6 months before a general election is called. It'd be a rough 6 months, but I'd rather 6 months of him than just shy of 4 years of Theresa May.

"pro-abortion" what

yes we love abortions, we love them so much 100%, gimme dem fetuses

EDIT: but seriously can they at least pretend to be somewhat competent in any way, even for politicians this is sad and that's an incredibly low bar to clear

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jul 4, 2016

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

Liam Fox has come out & said that abortions are bad and has called for "huge restriction, if not abolition" on the UK's "pro-abortion laws".
Ignoring that the UK is one of the few countries in Europe that doesn't have abortion on demand and that Northern Ireland is a shitshow in that regard, why is it always bans and 'huge restrictions' with these people?

There are plenty of case studies from countries like Belgium that show that you can massively decrease the number of abortions by using comprehensive sex education, guaranteed availability of contraception, consent-based empowerment, rape crisis teams, availability of emergency contraception, and even just paying new mothers so that nobody is ever too poor to have a child, coupled with a solid social floor. Most of those have side effects that are actually good too.

There are also plenty of case studies from countries that flat out ban abortion like Ireland that show that the largest effect is an increase in back alley terminations and the dangers that come from that.

This kind of ban culture bullshit comes from both sides of the aisle and I'm not sure whether it's hopeful idiocy or active malice or both.

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008


Here's to another progressive female Prime Minister. :britain:

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Yinlock posted:

"pro-abortion" what

yes we love abortions, we love them so much 100%, gimme dem fetuses
Yes that's pretty much how right-wing media in the US has been portraying abortion doctors / "abortionists" / etc for decades. They go into the practice because they enjoy murdering babies. Sorry to hear it crossed the ocean.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Kilroy posted:

Yes that's pretty much how right-wing media in the US has been portraying abortion doctors / "abortionists" / etc for decades. They go into the practice because they enjoy murdering babies. Sorry to hear it crossed the ocean.
And/or getting rich off abortions at the expense of poor innocent girls.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I really doubt even a Tory majority could get a bill making abortion illegal again through Parliament. They could probably do some horrible poo poo in that area like cutting funding provisions and adding conditions and restrictions to make things more difficult and unpleasant for the woman involved, but I'd like to believe that a flat out ban just isn't something that would pass a Commons vote, let alone get through Lords.

e: I know May wants out of the ECHR, but surely such a law wouldn't stand on human rights grounds in any case. How does Ireland get away with it?

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jul 4, 2016

Tha_Joker_GAmer
Aug 16, 2006
edit: just a dumb rant

Tha_Joker_GAmer fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jul 4, 2016

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
the British public are v stupid, and they voted

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Hope you don't like milky way magic stars.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Liu posted:

edit: just a dumb rant
I rather enjoyed it before you edited it out, agreed with all of it :)

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NO FUCK YOU DAD
Oct 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Ignoring that the UK is one of the few countries in Europe that doesn't have abortion on demand and that Northern Ireland is a shitshow in that regard, why is it always bans and 'huge restrictions' with these people?

There are plenty of case studies from countries like Belgium that show that you can massively decrease the number of abortions by using comprehensive sex education, guaranteed availability of contraception, consent-based empowerment, rape crisis teams, availability of emergency contraception, and even just paying new mothers so that nobody is ever too poor to have a child, coupled with a solid social floor. Most of those have side effects that are actually good too.

There are also plenty of case studies from countries that flat out ban abortion like Ireland that show that the largest effect is an increase in back alley terminations and the dangers that come from that.

This kind of ban culture bullshit comes from both sides of the aisle and I'm not sure whether it's hopeful idiocy or active malice or both.
Because people who want to restrict abortions don't really give a poo poo about dead babies. Their intentions begin and end with punishing and controlling women.

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