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WickedHate posted:If this was Star Wars that comet would already have a six book series with a critically acclaimed video game tie in. But since this is Star Trek, that comet will be a Trojan horse for some obscure TOS race that's now threatening the federation and only Picard, Janeway, Ezri, and Chief Engineer Wesley can stop it. Modern Trek novels are the most wallpaper paste white bread plot by numbers bores in all of sci-fi lit.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:But since this is Star Trek, that comet will be a Trojan horse for some obscure TOS race that's now threatening the federation and only Picard, Janeway, Ezri, and Chief Engineer Wesley can stop it. I read one of Shatner's the one where he brought Kirk back to life via the Borg or something? It was so bad it wasn't even memorable.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:01 |
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When I was a kid I thought the TNG/X-Men crossover was awesome as hell. That's my secret childhood shame.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:03 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Modern Trek novels are the most wallpaper paste white bread plot by numbers bores in all of sci-fi lit. The old Trek novels from the 80s, on the other hand, were... well, okay, they were also pretty bad overall. But they were bad in tremendously different ways from book to book, and there was even the occasional good one in the mix. I remember really liking Dreadnought! and Battlestations!.
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WickedHate posted:When I was a kid I thought the TNG/X-Men crossover was awesome as hell. That's my secret childhood shame. I'm sure you have many more.
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Rhyno posted:I read one of Shatner's the one where he brought Kirk back to life via the Borg or something? It was so bad it wasn't even memorable. He beat up/hosed everyone else in the galaxy, then turned off all the borgs by throwing a "borg on/ borg off" switch on the borg homeworld.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:05 |
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Rhyno posted:I'm sure you have many more. I also liked the Young James Bond series, okay??? Leave me alooooooone
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:06 |
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Otisburg posted:He beat up/hosed everyone else in the galaxy, then turned off all the borgs by throwing a "borg on/ borg off" switch on the borg homeworld. Jesus Christ really? No wonder I blocked it out.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:07 |
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That sounds like something Kirk would do. After he slept with the Queen, of course.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:09 |
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The Shatnerverse is basically 'Jim Kirk is better than everyone else suck it Picard.'
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:09 |
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Rhyno posted:Jesus Christ really? No wonder I blocked it out. He got to command a jet-black Defiant-class ship rechristened the Enterprise for the duration of his mission.
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Rhyno posted:I read one of Shatner's the one where he brought Kirk back to life via the Borg or something? It was so bad it wasn't even memorable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_(Shatner_novel) The only thing stopping this from being a literal Mary Sue is Kirk's rank. WickedHate posted:I also liked the Young James Bond series, okay??? Leave me alooooooone Those were nowhere near as good as Young Indiana Jones.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:12 |
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God drat it Shatner.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:16 |
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Otisburg posted:He got to command a jet-black Defiant-class ship rechristened the Enterprise for the duration of his mission. I can't remember if that was the one where he married a smoking hot half-Klingon-half-Romulan chick, or was that one of the other ones.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:17 |
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To be fair, if you were a straight man who spent the last few decades being paired up with your male co-star, you might want to aggressively assert your heterosexuality to your legions of followers too.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:20 |
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Powered Descent posted:The old Trek novels from the 80s, on the other hand, were... well, okay, they were also pretty bad overall. But they were bad in tremendously different ways from book to book, and there was even the occasional good one in the mix. I remember really liking Dreadnought! and Battlestations!. I distinctly remember Dreadnought! because of the cool drawing of the TOS assault shuttlecraft in the back and the fact the whole thing was centred around an awful mary sue.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 01:22 |
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I loved the Shatnerverse books. I'm a big Kirk fan so the were just awesome to me. Those books make more sense than Troi beating Data at chess.
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Powered Descent posted:The old Trek novels from the 80s, on the other hand, were... well, okay, they were also pretty bad overall. But they were bad in tremendously different ways from book to book, and there was even the occasional good one in the mix. I remember really liking Dreadnought! and Battlestations!.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I loved the Shatnerverse books. I'm a big Kirk fan so the were just awesome to me. You have to enjoy them for what they are and don't take them too seriously. I mean, Kirk literally fights everyone, like Worf, Riker, and Picard, and WINS. There are some cool Kirk moments too. Binary Badger posted:All right, which one of you guys made this page? Kinda weak jokes, I know, but outrage is outrage.. I love this part from Alec Peters: quote:Axanar uses professionals behind and in front of the camera and thus you get different quality of work than ST:NV and STC. Continues' lead cast are all pro actors...
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MikeJF posted:The Shatnerverse is basically 'Jim Kirk is better than everyone else suck it Picard.' How can such a crummy book series be based on such a sound premise? Seriously, I know I read them too but also have no memory of the Borg toggle switch. Geez.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:22 |
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Another plot point of those books was that V Ger was the result of the probe landing on the planet of the Borg. They outdid themselves with that one I think.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:27 |
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That's dumb because why wouldn't the Borg just go straight to Earth to start assimilating people?
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:29 |
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I barely remember but the wiki says this; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_(Shatner_novel) "In the process, they learn that V'ger, the former Voyager 6, was actually upgraded by a division of the Borg Collective, which explains why the Borg did not assimilate Spock; they assumed the trace of V'ger in his mind from their meld (in Star Trek: The Motion Picture) was an actual link to the Collective. This also gives Starfleet another advantage; thanks to the meld, Spock knows the location of the Borg homeworld." It made no sense to me because V Ger is on a whole nother level as a physical threat when compared to the Borg. It was not something you could fight.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:32 |
I believe this was actually present as a passing plot point in "Probe," which was a book set right after The Voyage Home. Or at least it comes up in the rewrite that got published as "Probe" since that too seems to be full of some kind of drama.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:35 |
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Did Shatner actually write those books or did he just come up with an idea and have that husband and wife write it?
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:35 |
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William Shatner presents Star Trek: Jim Kirk Gets All the Pussy and Rules in Every Way A Captain James Kirk Adventure Written by William Shatner, star of the classic 1960's tv show Star Trek And So & So
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 02:48 |
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This one time years ago I saw him on Conan promoting some new Tek War book he wrote and as soon as he said "Tek War" the audience laughed at him and he was sort of pissy for the rest of the interview
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Cojawfee posted:Did Shatner actually write those books or did he just come up with an idea and have that husband and wife write it? The latter, presumably. They're credited as co-authors.
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MikeJF posted:I can't remember if that was the one where he married a smoking hot half-Klingon-half-Romulan chick, or was that one of the other ones. Same series, but I don't think it came up in Return.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 04:32 |
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Cojawfee posted:Did Shatner actually write those books or did he just come up with an idea and have that husband and wife write it? Tighclops posted:This one time years ago I saw him on Conan promoting some new Tek War book he wrote and as soon as he said "Tek War" the audience laughed at him and he was sort of pissy for the rest of the interview I also remember him going on Conan once (maybe the same one) where they asked him about his Star Trek novels and what collaboration was like with his co-authors. Shat basically said something to the effect of, "basically I go over to their place and hang out on the couch while they write." I never once believed that was an exaggeration in the slightest.
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Edit: nvm, misunderstood something
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I've said this before, but the only reason to read the Shatnerverse books is to see the Reeve-Stevens spitballing their own ideas for the Trekverse. In The Return, they imagine the Borg having different "branches" that have different approaches to assimilation and expansion. One branch is more into biotech, one converts subjects into patterned energy (i.e. the guys V'ger ran into), and honestly it's way more interesting than anything canon Trek did with them after TNG ended. Mind you, none of this holds a candle to their DS9 Millenium trilogy, where the second book pretty much becomes Trek's answer to WH40K, complete with Ayatollah Weyoun leading the Bajorans against the remains of Starfleet led by Alzheimer's Picard.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 05:02 |
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Millennium got to be nuts since it was an alternate universe. It did approach Shatnerverse levels of insanity though.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 05:08 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOw_2f4lpY
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MikeJF posted:I can't remember if that was the one where he married a smoking hot half-Klingon-half-Romulan chick, or was that one of the other ones. That was a different one. You're thinking of The Ashes of Eden.
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Marshal Radisic posted:Mind you, none of this holds a candle to their DS9 Millenium trilogy, where the second book pretty much becomes Trek's answer to WH40K, complete with Ayatollah Weyoun leading the Bajorans against the remains of Starfleet led by Alzheimer's Picard. Yeah, but that was loving awesome. Second book end with the bad guys destroying the universe.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 05:46 |
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Get that four-foot model outta here!
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 06:06 |
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Imo if you can tell the difference based on a photo you've wasted your life. I can tell the difference.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 06:13 |
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It's not hard to tell, just look at if the deflector housing looks curvy and well-made or abrupt and lovely I've wasted my life
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Has there really been anything about the new Trek series besides "it's gonna be in the Kelvin universe"? I have this deep fear that they're going to try to do Star Trek: The Next JJeneration and it's just going to be awful. It's supposed to premiere in January of 2017, right? I remember when Enterprise was announced/launched and we had waaay more details in the 6 months leading up to it than we have about the new series now. Like, I remember promotional material and TV Guide covers and cast information and all that stuff being released like near the beginning of Voyager's seventh season.
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