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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I don't know why you want there to be some weird china conspiracy theory. Yeah, there is a coastal flood happening, but look at all the places they COULD be showing movies: It's not a conspiracy, it's "this company from a country notorious for its corruption is posting suspicious numbers for the movie it co-financed in an industry where there is regional precedent for ticket sales being forged" And what's more, the cinemas themselves don't need to be flooded for the floods to impact movie attendance you simpleton. If your apartment is flooded, you probably aren't going to the movies. If your streets are flooded, you probably aren't going to the movies. If the subways are flooded, you probably aren't going to the movies. If the power is out because of the flooding, you probably aren't going to the movies. If food and gasoline are difficult to access, you probably aren't going to the movies. There are tons of ways that a natural disaster affects theater attendance in ways that aren't "the screen is literally underwater." People loving died in this flood. Did some people see the movie in this time? Yeah, probably, but sold out cinemas during a natural disaster is ridiculous on its very face. And according to this article, the flooded city supposedly actually had above-average showings for its screenings that day, 130 vs the average of 93. Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Moddington posted:Double points because these allegations of fraud are coming from people in China in the first place. According to the one article every other article cites, the source of the accusations is "Chinese social media."
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 04:08 |
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Why won't you give this Chinese conglomerate the benefit of the doubt guys?
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 04:46 |
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Fojar38 posted:It's not a conspiracy, it's "this company from a country notorious for its corruption is posting suspicious numbers for the movie it co-financed in an industry where there is regional precedent for ticket sales being forged" Jesus christ it's coastal flooding, they aren't in mad max struggling for food.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 04:52 |
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Toady posted:According to the one article every other article cites, the source of the accusations is "Chinese social media." Yeah that's the real weakness of the piece, not these quibbles over whether or not the numbers in it are realistic or not.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 05:00 |
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So anyway here's an essay about China's movie theaters
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 05:44 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Jesus christ it's coastal flooding, they aren't in mad max struggling for food. Go to google maps and look at Liuzhou from space. The entire city is built close to the river banks. Also lol gotcha, unless it's literally Mad Max, flooding doesn't affect theatre attendence.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 08:50 |
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Box Office truthers are the weirdest thing
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 10:01 |
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Chris Metzen hasn't shown us a birth certificate, how do we know he isn't Chinese and lying about everything?
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 11:18 |
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Flumbooze posted:I just hope they explain the backstory a bit more. A lot of people who didn't play the games/read the books didn't understand why the orcs were invading, how Medivh got corrupted, etc. I bet it was very confusing. Does it really matter all that much? I thought it was a little refreshing to have the "origin" movie not be 45 minutes of worldbuilding and setup.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 11:32 |
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~Coxy posted:Does it really matter all that much? I too hate the principles of fiction
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 11:59 |
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~Coxy posted:Does it really matter all that much? No but just like Steve2911 says: Steve2911 posted:Yeah another 10 minutes at the front to show life on Draenor a bit and 2 minutes at the end to build up the 'Whoever corrupted Medivh must be a force to be reckoned with. Come back for the sequel!' element would've been nice. I went with friends who hadn't played the game and they left with a lot of questions (that won't be answered if the story just goes on). I mean I liked the pace too, but there's even no mentioning of Sargeras or Kil'Jaeden? Maybe at least let the audience know that they're leaving Draenor because they corrupted it with their magic to kill the Draenei (I know that was mentioned, but it was quickly skimped over) and tell us why they attack the Draenei. Maybe as a fan of the lore I'm just making this out to be a bigger problem than it is, but I really think this part is quite important to the story, it's the very reason everyting is happening. Of course I do understand that making a movie about alliance vs horde is more interesting, but still... A short intro would've been nice.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 13:01 |
My favorite part is at the beginning they have an Orc and a human fighting each other with a narrator saying something to the effect of orcs and humans have always fought and will for eternity. Cut to present and nobody knows what the gently caress an Orc is.
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Invalid Validation posted:My favorite part is at the beginning they have an Orc and a human fighting each other with a narrator saying something to the effect of orcs and humans have always fought and will for eternity. Cut to present and nobody knows what the gently caress an Orc is. Did you miss the part of the narration where he says, explicitly, "But there was a time when my people didn't even know what orcs were" and the whole movie is a flashback from that?
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 14:49 |
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Phylodox posted:Did you miss the part of the narration where he says, explicitly, "But there was a time when my people didn't even know what orcs were" and the whole movie is a flashback from that? Shh - you're ruining their argument.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:01 |
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They Orcs could've saved a ton of time by making the drat portal smaller instead of ridiculously tall, but as a proud gamer i know it's so they can fit thru dargons and demons in the next movie !!
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:05 |
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AbrahamLincolnLog posted:Chris Metzen hasn't shown us a birth certificate, how do we know he isn't Chinese and lying about everything? He's obviously a crypto-Buddhist. I mean his name even ends in "Zen".
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:22 |
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He met zen, but they didn't stay in touch.
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Phylodox posted:Did you miss the part of the narration where he says, explicitly, "But there was a time when my people didn't even know what orcs were" and the whole movie is a flashback from that? I must have, but then again it was boring.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:35 |
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Well, I mean, if you're already bored and not paying attention within the first five minutes, maybe this movie just wasn't for you.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:40 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDPFHnfckD8 OMG BORING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZdR6oEYcIw OMG BORING Not comparing these movies to Warcraft btw.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 15:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjaEihqCsEw
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Humans Among Us posted:They Orcs could've saved a ton of time by making the drat portal smaller instead of ridiculously tall, but as a proud gamer i know it's so they can fit thru dargons and demons in the next movie !! The Dark Portal is a weird thing. On the Azeroth side of Warcraft, it's a decent size; big, but nothing crazy. On the Draenor side, it's even bigger. In the CG cutscenes for Warlords of Draenor, it's this fuckoff huge thing hundreds of feet tall.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 17:01 |
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Weird, i remember that thing being green, not red
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 18:20 |
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Humans Among Us posted:Weird, i remember that thing being green, not red Maybe your memories have been .... corrupted.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 18:25 |
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*explodes into green goo*
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 18:27 |
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Lots of things in the MMO are just representations of how things actually are in the fiction. Otherwise places like Stormwind, which is supposed to house thousands and thousands of people, would be huge and frustrating for players to walk around.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 18:29 |
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Likewise, a lot of things in the movie are representations of playing wow. Like the characters hopping on griphons and just flying 5 minutes to the next important location. Something i actually enjoyed a ton.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 19:46 |
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I'm not super high-up on my Warcraft knowledge, but this movie set up the events of the first two games, right? I recall one of the protagonists from the second game being the Orc Moses we see towards the end.Detective No. 27 posted:I still hope that rumored Monster Hunter movie is happening. I think Paul WS Anderson said he was gonna do it after he finished up with the last Resident Evil. That would rule. Best (worst?) part is that those games have almost no story to butcher anyway.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Maybe your memories have been .... corrupted. It was green when it linked to regular Draenor. Those screenshots are from Warlords of Draenor, which feature the Dark Portal being used to link to an alternate timeline and turn it red rather than green. It's still green on the other side of regular timeline Draenor.
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C-Euro posted:I'm not super high-up on my Warcraft knowledge, but this movie set up the events of the first two games, right? I recall one of the protagonists from the second game being the Orc Moses we see towards the end. Third game, actually. If you don't count expansions.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 22:42 |
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Phylodox posted:Third game, actually. If you don't count expansions. No, they're only up to second game.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:No, they're only up to second game. The baby at the end, Go'el, is Thrall, future leader of the Horde and protagonist of Warcraft III, the third game in the series.
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Phylodox posted:The baby at the end, Go'el, is Thrall, future leader of the Horde and protagonist of Warcraft III, the third game in the series. Right, and he's like 0 months old, and the Horde still has to invade the rest of the world and lose. Right now Gul'Dan is still in charge and Doomhammer just took over official chieftain duties. So we are still about 20 years behind Warcraft 3.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 22:53 |
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If you like Thrall then you should basically pretend he stops existing after WC3.
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# ? Jul 4, 2016 23:28 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:The Dark Portal is a weird thing. On the Azeroth side of Warcraft, it's a decent size; big, but nothing crazy. On the Draenor side, it's even bigger. In the CG cutscenes for Warlords of Draenor, it's this fuckoff huge thing hundreds of feet tall. Canonically, the Azeroth side of the Portal is supposed to be just as big but they probably didn't want to make the resources for it in Vanilla and it just stuck.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Right, and he's like 0 months old, and the Horde still has to invade the rest of the world and lose. Right now Gul'Dan is still in charge and Doomhammer just took over official chieftain duties. So we are still about 20 years behind Warcraft 3. Yeah, but they asked if Thrall was the protagonist of the second game. He's not, he's the protagonist of the third one. Not counting expansions.
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# ? Jul 5, 2016 01:11 |
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Warcraft 3 has like 4 protagonists
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# ? Jul 5, 2016 01:47 |
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Phylodox posted:Yeah, but they asked if Thrall was the protagonist of the second game. He's not, he's the protagonist of the third one. Yes and it does not set up the third game. Moving on...
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Maybe they can finally make the cancelled LORD OF THE CLANS into a movie
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