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Centripetal Horse posted:The thing I like about Voyager is that it's no longer on the air. I felt stupider just from having the radiation carrying that terrible show pass through my head on its way to some trailer park television. lmbo
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shadow puppet of a posted:I think these three were the most ridiculous motherfuckers in either quadrant. at least in this alternative timeline Miles O'Brien escaped his killjoy wife.
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Chomp8645 posted:Yeah I bet Star Trek: Voyager was real popular in the trailer parks. My babysitter lived in a trailer park and loved star trek and had a bunch of collector glasses.
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Baronjutter posted:lol loving voyager. I love how absolutely random their ethics were. "no, this holligram that looks like a bad guy would be wrong" "No, we won't help your people in exchange for getting home faster because that would be cheating!" "Murder or even genocide is sometimes ok if the people are bad or irritate us" "All holograms have RIGHTS! Except spoon head ones!" Every writers meeting was just them saying "okay, what's the most absolutely loving retarded way they could react to this situation? Yes, let's do that"
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Why did they let everybody except the guy who played Harry Kim direct an episode? Was there an actual reason or did the character transcend into the actor and the writers just hated the gently caress out of him?
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Klingon women liking to be bitten while they gently caress is a very interesting factoid and I'm glad no one was masturbating while inventing Klingon sexuality.
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Chomp8645 posted:Yeah I bet Star Trek: Voyager was real popular in the trailer parks. Why would you think it's not? Hector Beerlioz posted:My babysitter lived in a trailer park and loved star trek and had a bunch of collector glasses. Boom. Anecdotal evidence for the win. Edit: Decrepus posted:Klingon women liking to be bitten while they gently caress is a very interesting factoid and I'm glad no one was masturbating while inventing Klingon sexuality. This is not limited to Klingons.
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Trailer park people being into a show where jobs are voluntary and currency doesn't exist isn't a big shocker
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Trailer park people being into a show where jobs are voluntary and currency doesn't exist isn't a big shocker I knew some people who were not at all into scify or trek who got into voyager just because of 7's tits. It played well in certain markets.
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Baronjutter posted:lol loving voyager. I love how absolutely random their ethics were. "no, this holligram that looks like a bad guy would be wrong" It wasn't about the hologram looking like the guy, it was specifically that they were benefiting from research carried out under conditions most people would find contemptible. Using said research would validate the means by which it was obtained, in effect encouraging future Mengeles. Unfortunately... all that research was already contained in their Starfleet database which would lead most people to assume the Federation had approved its use, at least tacitly, making their own moral dilemma sorta pointless. Then again I suppose it was all the Maquis guys actually throwing a hissy fit over it so the Federation stamp of approval doesn't mean much to them anyway.
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Mondian posted:It wasn't about the hologram looking like the guy, it was specifically that they were benefiting from research carried out under conditions most people would find contemptible. Using said research would validate the means by which it was obtained, in effect encouraging future Mengeles. Unfortunately... all that research was already contained in their Starfleet database which would lead most people to assume the Federation had approved its use, at least tacitly, making their own moral dilemma sorta pointless. Then again I suppose it was all the Maquis guys actually throwing a hissy fit over it so the Federation stamp of approval doesn't mean much to them anyway. If that logic were followed, we would have to discard a lot of modern medicine. Starfleet exists on our timeline, so they would also have to discard poo poo tons of medicine that we've gotten by disgusting abuse of human beings. "I'm going to have to let you die of the space flu because I don't want to use methods developed using shady research," results in all the victims of the research still being victims of the research, plus one guy dead from space flu. Edit: Holy poo poo. I must have forgotten where I was. Am I actually attempting to engage in a serious conversation involving the bioethics of medical holograms from Star Trek Vichyssoise?
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I mean, space travel as a whole owes nearly everything to the Nazis, so the whole "we can't ethically let this dude help" is total bullshit
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Why did they let everybody except the guy who played Harry Kim direct an episode? Was there an actual reason or did the character transcend into the actor and the writers just hated the gently caress out of him? I think it was all intertwined, the actor was supposedly a piece of poo poo and constantly late etc., he was supposed to be killed off instead of Kes, but who knows if he was that way all along or if he just stopped giving a poo poo after playing Harry Kim for long enougn.
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It's pretty hosed up that after establishing holograms are people (sometimes) it's ok to just shut them down. They help some ship of hologram people but have no problem turning off their irish gently caress toys when done with them. Where do they draw the line? Considering the computer constantly accidentally creates fully sentient holograms, and if you leave a hologram on for more than an hour it seems to become sentient anyways, where do they draw the god drat line?
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Baronjutter posted:It's pretty hosed up that after establishing holograms are people (sometimes) it's ok to just shut them down. They help some ship of hologram people but have no problem turning off their irish gently caress toys when done with them. Where do they draw the line? Considering the computer constantly accidentally creates fully sentient holograms, and if you leave a hologram on for more than an hour it seems to become sentient anyways, where do they draw the god drat line? The line must be drawn here! https://youtu.be/Jln3mi0vfJU Holograms are only lifeforms with rights when it isn't an inconvenience. Probably the most Human anyone acts on Star Trek.
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AugmentedVision posted:I think it was all intertwined, the actor was supposedly a piece of poo poo and constantly late etc., he was supposed to be killed off instead of Kes, but who knows if he was that way all along or if he just stopped giving a poo poo after playing Harry Kim for long enougn. I remember hearing something about his character being scheduled for die until some magazine declared him a Sexy Wang. (That's actually a pretty good place to draw the line, given they're trying to change history.)
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Volcott posted:I remember hearing something about his character being scheduled for die until some magazine declared him a Sexy Wang. 
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Volcott posted:I remember hearing something about his character being scheduled for die until some magazine declared him a Sexy Wang. They knew they were bringing in Jeri Ryan, and needed to lose a character. Harry was, for obvious reasons, their first choice. At the last minute Garrett Wang made the annual "50 Most Beautiful People" list, so a last minute change was made to axe Kes.
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Those loving pants. "Garett, we want you to wear something that looks like someone peed on an abalone. You did? Excellent. Now, spread your legs. Wider. Wider. Perfect."
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Wasn't there some story that it was the Wrong Wang, also? That they meant some other person and they got Garrett Wang by mistake. Sort of like that story about Cannon Films hired Sharon Stone because one of the execs said, "Get that Stone Woman" and he actually meant the actress from Romancing the Stone, or J Edgar Hoover's "Watch the Borders" memo.
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Centripetal Horse posted:Those loving pants. "Garett, we want you to wear something that looks like someone peed on an abalone. You did? Excellent. Now, spread your legs. Wider. Wider. Perfect." the late 90's were a pretty weird time, man. we thought our computers were going to reset and kill all of us
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They meant to give it to George Takei but they got the wrong Chinaman
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Baronjutter posted:It's pretty hosed up that after establishing holograms are people (sometimes) it's ok to just shut them down. They help some ship of hologram people but have no problem turning off their irish gently caress toys when done with them. Where do they draw the line? Considering the computer constantly accidentally creates fully sentient holograms, and if you leave a hologram on for more than an hour it seems to become sentient anyways, where do they draw the god drat line? Season 3 or 4 when they hit Borg space Janeway's failsafe hinged on the Doctor deleting himself. He's just like "I, uh.... ok, I guess. I'll delete myself at the first sign of trouble, Captain"
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Centripetal Horse posted:Those loving pants. "Garett, we want you to wear something that looks like someone peed on an abalone. You did? Excellent. Now, spread your legs. Wider. Wider. Perfect." T'aint Misbehavin'.
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I thought I was over Voyager, I don't know why I just watched that episode. It's like a fresh wound now. God drat loving Voyager.
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Met posted:Ears are hard, man. Nipples are easy. He probably didn't want her feeling like she was loving a ken doll. Nipples should be hard too, if you're doing it right.
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criscodisco posted:They knew they were bringing in Jeri Ryan, and needed to lose a character. Harry was, for obvious reasons, their first choice. At the last minute Garrett Wang made the annual "50 Most Beautiful People" list, so a last minute change was made to axe Kes.
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Currently marathonning through TNG. Already did DS9. Should I do voyager next or should I hold off on it for when I feel like getting mind-meltingly high?
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frogge posted:Currently marathonning through TNG. Already did DS9. Should I do voyager next or should I hold off on it for when I feel like getting mind-meltingly high? Voyager is more really tedious than absolutely awful. So many endless hours of people tromping down cut and paste corridors lecturing each other about nothing much in particular. DS9 at least had a war and TNG was at least wacky at times.
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Voyager was the first step towards there being no more Star Trek on TV 7 seasons of Ehhhhhhhhh? Mehhhhhhhh. followed by loving Enterprise killed it dead Now we have JJ Trek
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Has there been any more info released on the upcoming series other than that short teaser? If it's anything like JJ Trek I'm gonna be loving sad.
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When Star Wars is bad, it is spectacularly bad. See: the prequels. When Star Trek is bad, it's just mediocre and forgettable. See: Voyager, TNG movies. Star Trek is kinda dead and Rick Berman & Branon Braga killed it. The height of Trek's popularity was the early - mid 90s with TNG and DS9 which happen to be the best Trek shows. Then it gradually faded into obscurity because Voyager, Enterprise and the movies were so bleh. Some said the JJ movies would revitalize the series and bring in new fans, but they really kind of haven't. General audiences just basically went to go see them and promptly forgot about him. I don't know a lot of people who are actually into Star Trek - Star Wars, Game of Thrones, Dr. Who and superheroes are the "hot" things these days. I don't feel like the new series is going to bring life back into Star Trek because it'll just be on CBS' streaming service and not Netflix or actual TV. The only people who are going to watch it are people who are already Trekkies.
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criscodisco posted:They knew they were bringing in Jeri Ryan, and needed to lose a character. Harry was, for obvious reasons, their first choice. At the last minute Garrett Wang made the annual "50 Most Beautiful People" list, so a last minute change was made to axe Kes. Is there any stated reason they didn't ditch Neelix? I'm not quite understanding how they thought "Space moron who contributes literally nothing to the ship" was a better character to keep than "Alien developing reality-bending mind powers." They must have realised by then that Neelix wasn't going to be the breakout character.
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