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Not a Step posted:E: ^^ Didn't want those votes anyways. In unrelated news, those grapes were probably sour, I'm glad I can't reach them What, precisely, do you think Clinton would have gotten from a bigger win in the primary than she got? What is the marginal return on additional primary votes? It's not like the general where there is some argument that the margin translates into a greater or lesser mandate (give or take a George W. getting fewer votes and claiming a mandate). Once you're the nominee you're the nominee.
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Not a Step posted:A zombie campaign that still went 55/45. How terrible is Clinton that a no hoper zombie campaign powered by college kids pizza money and which was effectively dead after the first Super Tuesday still managed to take several states and end up 55/45 in the pledged delegate count? Considering Bill had the same thing happen to him, probably not too bad. Bill had even less of the vote going into the 92 primary than Hillary does now.
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computer parts posted:Considering Bill had the same thing happen to him, probably not too bad. just further proof that everyone in America has always hated the Clintons 
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The clintons are good. Michelle 2024, Chelsea 2032. Malia 2040, by which point the us will officially have become a diarchy.
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Not a Step posted:Hillary is a solid power broker who shut any 'good' candidates out of the race before it even started Are you saying she killed Biden's kid? Is there a betting market for indictment on that?
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Quorum posted:The clintons are good. 
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Quorum posted:The clintons are good. I hope I live long enough to see President Malia sign the order suspending the constitution and dissolving congress.
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computer parts posted:Considering Bill had the same thing happen to him, probably not too bad. Bill won 35 states and his next closest competitor, Jerry Brown, had only 6 states with 20% of the vote. So not really 'less' than Hillary, who won fewer than 30 states.
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The thing that makes it hard to compare Bernie's run with other primaries is that the only other campaign not to bail before halfway in was Hillary Clinton herself. Also I think people massively overrate Joe Biden's strength as a candidate. Though he would likely get enough votes to make it a "true" contested convention. (Seriously, the people mad about Wall Street aren't going to vote for the Senator from Credit Card Shell Company. The people who don't like Hillary Clinton as a person might, though.)
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point of return posted:The thing that makes it hard to compare Bernie's run with other primaries is that the only other campaign not to bail before halfway in was Hillary Clinton herself. are you suggesting that people would make ridiculous and outlandish statistical analyses in this, the Nate Silver thread?
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Not a Step posted:Bill won 35 states and his next closest competitor, Jerry Brown, had only 6 states with 20% of the vote. So not really 'less' than Hillary, who won fewer than 30 states. lol counting states. Nevermind New York, Florida, California, what did Idaho and Utah do???
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Not a Step posted:Bill won 35 states and his next closest competitor, Jerry Brown, had only 6 states with 20% of the vote. So not really 'less' than Hillary, who won fewer than 30 states. Bill had 52% of the vote (compared with 55 here) and had not one but three zombie campaigns to fight against. Sounds like Hillary is the more consensus candidate.
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computer parts posted:Bill had 52% of the vote (compared with 55 here) and had not one but three zombie campaigns to fight against. Sounds like Hillary is the more consensus candidate. With four competing messages Bill getting half the vote makes him the consensus candidate. Despite having three other options more people preferred him. Hillary dropped 45% of the delegates to a crazy old man from Vermont who only ever had the one speech. You guys don't have to cultishly defend her. Its ok to admit Hillary is a deeply, deeply flawed candidate. Trump is ten times worse and shes going to slam dunk him in the GE. Be happy!
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Not a Step posted:With four competing messages Bill getting half the vote makes him the consensus candidate. No, having more candidates makes him less of a consensus candidate. Bill getting a plurality of votes in the 92 general didn't make him more of a consensus candidate.
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smg77 posted:I hope I live long enough to see President Malia sign the order suspending the constitution and dissolving congress. She wouldn't be called President Malia, she'd be called President Obama unless she changed her name to be Malia Malia 
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exquisite tea posted:Before HRC blew it open after California, Bernie was trailing her by about the same percentages as Cruz lost to Trump, which nobody considered close at any point. I voted for the Bernman myself and it'd be cool if he won but he didn't have the juice and my delusional facebook friends with their Bernie math projections just became super pathetic and sad after awhile. Same. I wanted Bernie to win but I totally understand that he didn't. I also understand that while he had unprecedented fund raising sources it did translate to unprecedented margins for the overall primary. But those two facts don't diminish his influence, or the worthiness of his message: namely to disenfranchise with prejudice, all voters except the 18-35 white male.
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Powercrazy posted:Same. You know Bernie did better with younger men and women voters. Stop believing the whole bernie bro narrative, he lost because he couldn't win over the AOL or just discovered facebook demographic.
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etalian posted:You know Bernie did better with younger men and women voters. Powercrazy was being sarcastic at the end of his post. He is a big fan of Bernie Sanders.
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Powercrazy posted:disenfranchise with prejudice, all voters except the 18-35 white male. Gary Johnson might actually have a chance!
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Civilized Fishbot posted:She wouldn't be called President Malia, she'd be called President Obama unless she changed her name to be Malia Malia What if she marries a woman whose last name is Malia and takes her last name what then huh
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Tayter Swift posted:What if she marries a woman whose last name is Malia and takes her last name what then huh america won't be ready for a black lesbian secretly muslim president whose first name is the same as her last name unless she has her dad as VP Malia/Obama 2052
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Civilized Fishbot posted:america won't be ready for a black lesbian secretly muslim president whose first name is the same as her last name Robama/Robiden 2061
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Powercrazy was being sarcastic at the end of his post. He is a big fan of Bernie Sanders. I appreciate the acknowledgement! Thanks! And yes I was subverting the 'bernie-bro' narrative with an exaggerative rhetorical device.
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Powercrazy posted:I appreciate the acknowledgement! Thanks! 
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You're not really subverting an argument about misogyny by posting #NotAllMen.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:america won't be ready for a black lesbian secretly muslim president millard fillmore check and mate, bitch
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Civilized Fishbot posted:She wouldn't be called President Malia, she'd be called President Obama unless she changed her name to be Malia Malia Appropos of nothing but the day I found out Mario's full name was Mario Mario blew my loving mind
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Chokes McGee posted:Appropos of nothing but the day I found out Mario's full name was Mario Mario blew my loving mind Get that gross non-canonical lie out of my sight.
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comes along bort posted:millard fillmore I don't understand
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I honestly wonder if Nate Silver has any real friends. How can the people in his life not let him know how bad his hairline has gotten...
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"Who could have seen me being happy, clearly the problem is that this is a once in a lifetime event and not my complete ignorance of everything that made me famous"
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e_angst posted:I honestly wonder if Nate Silver has any real friends. How can the people in his life not let him know how bad his hairline has gotten... He should go for a reverse mohawk, imho
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A toupee, or perhaps a hat
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He should go full Trump-coif one day and never address it.
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incidentally heres an old nate silver baseball thing i really liked - he basically gets to the question of 'was barry bonds better than babe ruth' by quantifying the quality of each season in the history of major league baseball relative to a common standard and working from there https://books.google.com/books?id=VsmnfVUKJskC&lpg=PP1&pg=PR37#v=onepage&q&f=false much better than his current pundit form
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Chokes McGee posted:"Who could have seen me being happy, clearly the problem is that this is a once in a lifetime event and not my complete ignorance of everything that made me famous" In fairness to Bad Hair Nate (I'm working on Trump-style epithets) the GOP primary really was a once-in-a-lifetime affair this cycle.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:look at the top of his head No.
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