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Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
His orbs remained on target even out of LOS. So you would have a Genji with +50 shields getting healed constantly

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Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

SectumSempra posted:

Must be something beyond my understanding, or maybe it was too early.

Could her shields be stacked or something?
i know his orbs dont stack anymore.

It seems pretty obvious to me that 200 hitpoint Tracers, 250 hitpoint Genjis, and 300 hitpoint Reapers, potentially with their own personal everlasting healorb floating overhead, on demand without anything more onerous than "press E/shift" was probably pretty unfun, yeah.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
The community has come up with way more fun ideas than Blizzard have managed with their crappy brawls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM4Ot_IZDbM

Literally only good one is Mystery Heroes.

minema
May 31, 2011
Yeah the one in the beta where you switched to a random hero after every death was great, made me try new heroes I wasn't sure about and no one was taking it too seriously. I wish they'd just have it as that permanently.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Overwatch is a good and fun game to have fun and play

Bolivar
Aug 20, 2011

Ddraig posted:

The community has come up with way more fun ideas than Blizzard have managed with their crappy brawls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM4Ot_IZDbM

Literally only good one is Mystery Heroes.

We still have to wait for 10 weeks for Blizzard to cycle through all their lovely ideas from beta, because every one deserves to play their lovely brawls from beta. All offense, all defense, all tanks, gently caress yeah :ughh:

How hard can it be to just put on the "random hero" until they have come up with another brawl that's fun.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I am late to the whole support-healer chat but I definitely hope they change the "no support" tip to "no healer" and don't let future supports be defied by their healing.

That's one mistake they made with Heroes of the Storm. The most recent addition to that game is Medivh and two years ago he would be classified as a support, just like Tassadar. He's actually considered a specialist, simply because he doesn't have heals.

The advantage Overwatch has that teams have six players and you are not stuck with a character for the entire match. There's way more room to run two supports and it would be a shame if it's all healbots (even if that's ridiculously effective).

TheresaJayne
Jul 1, 2011

Bolivar posted:

We still have to wait for 10 weeks for Blizzard to cycle through all their lovely ideas from beta, because every one deserves to play their lovely brawls from beta. All offense, all defense, all tanks, gently caress yeah :ughh:

How hard can it be to just put on the "random hero" until they have come up with another brawl that's fun.

I just loved it when we had all 6 Bastions and it kept telling us we didn't have enough tanks....

I see 6 right there Du-du-duuu

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
I just wish they did some actual interesting brawls instead of "limited heroes, tweaked ult rates".

Wouldn't be surprised if the engine doesn't actually support something like, for example, low gravity, though

objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine
I need to stop being the rear end in a top hat who berates people verbally for not cooperating. I did this in Quick Play last night when the group didn't seem to be coordinating at all. I've already been spoiled by competitive mode where people are more habitually cooperative and communicative.

Yes, competitive mode does currently have problems, but let's be thankful that people are quite serious about it. It makes for some really intense games.

It really does make me sad when I rage at people. Sometimes I see Twitch streams of handicapped people playing videogames. What if I raged at such a person? It just depresses me.

In conclusion, I love Overwatch, the greatest game of all time.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender

minema posted:

Yeah the one in the beta where you switched to a random hero after every death was great, made me try new heroes I wasn't sure about and no one was taking it too seriously. I wish they'd just have it as that permanently.


Good news on that at least.

Jeff Kaplan posted:

Will see if there is a way we can either bring it back more frequently or make it more of a permanent thing. We're going to take a look at Brawls in general later this summer so we'll make sure this is part of the discussion.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745206200#post-14

MUSCULAR BEAVER
Dec 26, 2014

HENDO! HENDO!
I would actually play the brawls if they did cool poo poo like low grav or big head mode

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

PS4 Competitive breakdown when solo queuing:

- 25% of games you have 3 or 4 people working together with mics and it is glorious. My most memorable match was going down 0-4 on Watchpoint Gibraltar then working with 3 other guys to come up with a good comp to try and force sudden death on offense. I volunteered to go Mercy (my first full match ever playing her) and we managed to force sudden death. The coin flip threw us on defense and we stopped the offense about 2 meters from delivering the payload. The final firefight was the most fun I've ever had playing the game. I called out every time I switched healing guys, they worked hard to keep Reaper off me, we coordinated our ults...It was so much fun.

- 25% of games have 1 other person on the mic that is usually a 13 year old kid. The 13 year old kid is either cool and willing to work with you, or plays Genji the entire match.

- 25% of the games have 1 other person on the mic who calls everyone on the team a pussy or human being, runs in by themselves as Soldier 76 and complains that "no one is helping" after they immediately die.

- 25% of the games are completely silent but I stay on the mic anyways to call out the location of enemies, turrets, my ult status, etc. Sometimes it seems like people are listening and other times we have 2 Reapers, 1 Mei, a Widowmaker, Symmetra and whatever I end up playing on offense. At this point I usually throw it into cruise control and experiment with different characters.

I wish there was some way to have more games that fit into that first 25% category. Right now I am filling out my friend's list with dudes who were fun to play with in the hopes that eventually I'll be able to log in and queue up with at least 1 other person who I can count on to coordinate.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.
As a fellow Roadhog main, I am thoroughly impressed by this man: https://gfycat.com/FrequentHalfBabirusa

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

whatspeakyou posted:

As a fellow Roadhog main, I am thoroughly impressed by this man: https://gfycat.com/FrequentHalfBabirusa

:unsmith:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Not gonna lie, I generally type some form of "SUUUU-PERR MAAAAN" into the chat when I charge a Self-Destructing MEKA out of the way.

Either that or "I think this is yours" if I can get the D.Va who used it in the process.

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!

They even sounds the same. Oh god here we go again with the tears.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

my problem with symmetra is that as fun as she is the other team has a really easy time ruining your day. So many games it feels like there will be at least one tracer with no goal in mind other than finding and destroying my teleporter as soon as it's placed. My unthought out armchair game designer suggestion is to make her teleporter a normal ability but disabled and every time she fills her ultimate meter it gets more charges

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
I played Zarya in QP last night and had a "let's see how this goes" moment when Dva was about to explode. Popped my shield and saw my damage boost go from low to 100 real quick.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Leavers are getting to be a huge problem. 3 of my 5 match wins tonight have had people to leave when we started to stomp the poo poo out of them.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Raged posted:

Leavers are getting to be a huge problem. 3 of my 5 match wins tonight have had people to leave when we started to stomp the poo poo out of them.

They're making changes to help prevent leavers soon.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.

Raged posted:

Leavers are getting to be a huge problem. 3 of my 5 match wins tonight have had people to leave when we started to stomp the poo poo out of them.

Did Kaplan actually say what some of these fixes were going to be? Or just that "fixes are coming"?

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Ehud posted:

PS4 Competitive breakdown when solo queuing:

- 25% of games you have 3 or 4 people working together with mics and it is glorious. My most memorable match was going down 0-4 on Watchpoint Gibraltar then working with 3 other guys to come up with a good comp to try and force sudden death on offense. I volunteered to go Mercy (my first full match ever playing her) and we managed to force sudden death. The coin flip threw us on defense and we stopped the offense about 2 meters from delivering the payload. The final firefight was the most fun I've ever had playing the game. I called out every time I switched healing guys, they worked hard to keep Reaper off me, we coordinated our ults...It was so much fun.

- 25% of games have 1 other person on the mic that is usually a 13 year old kid. The 13 year old kid is either cool and willing to work with you, or plays Genji the entire match.

- 25% of the games have 1 other person on the mic who calls everyone on the team a pussy or human being, runs in by themselves as Soldier 76 and complains that "no one is helping" after they immediately die.

- 25% of the games are completely silent but I stay on the mic anyways to call out the location of enemies, turrets, my ult status, etc. Sometimes it seems like people are listening and other times we have 2 Reapers, 1 Mei, a Widowmaker, Symmetra and whatever I end up playing on offense. At this point I usually throw it into cruise control and experiment with different characters.

I wish there was some way to have more games that fit into that first 25% category. Right now I am filling out my friend's list with dudes who were fun to play with in the hopes that eventually I'll be able to log in and queue up with at least 1 other person who I can count on to coordinate.

What rank are you? I've solo-queued around 30 games at rank 45-50 and have had exactly one person respond on mic. When he realized someone was listening he just bragged about how well he was playing Mei the entire game.

In those 30, though, I've only had a couple of games involve quitters. Most everyone marches from one end to the other in dead silence. The games really feel no different than quick match did before ranked opened up.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I played Zarya in QP last night and had a "let's see how this goes" moment when Dva was about to explode. Popped my shield and saw my damage boost go from low to 100 real quick.

Yeah, Zarya shields can block potentially unlimited damage as long as it comes only from one single attack. They're also great for protecting against High Noons and Junkrat tires. It's always fun to just run up to a McCree, take his shot on the chin, and then burn him down with a full charge.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Huxley posted:

What rank are you? I've solo-queued around 30 games at rank 45-50 and have had exactly one person respond on mic. When he realized someone was listening he just bragged about how well he was playing Mei the entire game.

In those 30, though, I've only had a couple of games involve quitters. Most everyone marches from one end to the other in dead silence. The games really feel no different than quick match did before ranked opened up.

I'm around the same rank as you. I'm currently at 46. When you get into the game do you get on your mic and ask who all has a mic? That usually helps get people out of their shell. As soon as I join I usually throw out something like, "hey guys. Anyone else on a mic? Let me know and we can try to coordinate and beat these guys."

People seem a little more eager to get on their mic if you encourage them a bit :shobon:

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

if someone else asks if people have mics and there's no response i'll say "nope"

then a few others will chime in with nope, no mics here

then we have a jolly good time

reverse psychology, works every time

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i like to get on mic and tell my team how awesome they are, how i love them all, how we're going to murder the other team

then we lose our first point in 35 seconds and i am demoralized as i know we're taking another loss and so i shut up

seriously i am down to 30 now, and i think im going to stop playing until season 2 because im definitely not having fun any more.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
Zarya is the best glue if you have a second tank or a few frontline attackers. Bubbles for everyone.

If your team is Hanzo/Genji/Tracer/Reaper then I wouldn't even bother.

'All flanking' teams are nothing but feelbads and I blame Blizz for making all the edgy/cool characters be the least team-friendly.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

whatspeakyou posted:

As a fellow Roadhog main, I am thoroughly impressed by this man: https://gfycat.com/FrequentHalfBabirusa

I got a Lifesaver POTG as Roadhog last night. It was me shooting a Reinhardt that was charging me. At the last second you see PINNED pop up as he takes my last shot and falls over, it was like he bounced off my belly.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Broken Cog posted:

I just wish they did some actual interesting brawls instead of "limited heroes, tweaked ult rates".

Wouldn't be surprised if the engine doesn't actually support something like, for example, low gravity, though

Low gravity, all Zarya, increased Ultimate charge rate.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Efexeye posted:

i like to get on mic and tell my team how awesome they are, how i love them all, how we're going to murder the other team

then we lose our first point in 35 seconds and i am demoralized as i know we're taking another loss and so i shut up

seriously i am down to 30 now, and i think im going to stop playing until season 2 because im definitely not having fun any more.

are you still picking mercy below 30? i think you should seriously consider just instalocking reaper at that rating, that way you can be the one murdering or spawn camping their support

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Zoness posted:

are you still picking mercy below 30? i think you should seriously consider just instalocking reaper at that rating, that way you can be the one murdering or spawn camping their support

yeah :(

Wangsbig
May 27, 2007

yes, I will selflessly support 5 strangers in the trench tiers of a videogame and be sad when I lose

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Broken Cog posted:

I just wish they did some actual interesting brawls instead of "limited heroes, tweaked ult rates".

Wouldn't be surprised if the engine doesn't actually support something like, for example, low gravity, though

Unstuck in Time, all Tracer, random forced jumps and rewinds. Bonus if they can change maps and game states on the fly. JUMP its a wide open field JUMP its the Nepal indoor map JUMP its a payload escort in overtime inches from the goal.

They're Coming, all Bastion, one life only, hold a point as long as you can. In the distance you hear FIRE IN THE HOLE and the sounds of the tire. Then again. And again. Faster and faster as the tires come from every direction. Alternate option: same thing but infinite charging Reinhardts.

Halls of Reflection, your group has to work together to get through a shifting maze of ice walls and blizzards as behind you an invulnerable Mei slowly stalks toward her prey.

They need to make tools so people can create their own, would be interesting to see what comes of it like the DOTA genre from wc3.

Wangsbig
May 27, 2007

support classes are straight up the worst thing to be added to FPSs bc there is now a legion of ppl who cannot click a head or otherwise score a frag actively participating in games where they would have been a glowing medkit 10 years ago

Mystery Machine
Oct 12, 2008
People vastly overrate the value of healers and supports in low level games. Supports facilitate more aggressive, higher level play. If you're teammates aren't capable of that play, select something else. I don't think they're critical for winning even into the 50s. If you like picking heroes that help the team, pick tanks. A team comp is still great with 3-4 tanks, and they help out the team still. Zarya has the bubble, Rein shields others, Roadhog can heal himself and is support independent.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
pretty sure at that rating people aren't capable of making good decisions like run away from reaper into their team so just pick reaper and think of it as practice because reaper is good at all levels.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Kai Tave posted:

It seems pretty obvious to me that 200 hitpoint Tracers, 250 hitpoint Genjis, and 300 hitpoint Reapers, potentially with their own personal everlasting healorb floating overhead, on demand without anything more onerous than "press E/shift" was probably pretty unfun, yeah.

It was probably the least fun the game's ever been. Y'know how challenging it is to track and kill a good Genji player nowadays? Imagine trying to track and kill a good Genji player with 250 HP who's healing 20 HP/s forever. Now imagine that there's two of them.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
the best brawl would be all Symmetra except she has no E or Weapon and the map is filled with balls. half cooldown on shift or something, also turrets have modified ai to not shoot each other. she can ult but it only transports balls and whatever is attached to them

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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Wangsbig posted:

yes, I will selflessly support 5 strangers in the trench tiers of a videogame and be sad when I lose

It's a dota analogy.

Zoness posted:

the best brawl would be all Symmetra except she has no E or Weapon and the map is filled with balls. half cooldown on shift or something, also turrets have modified ai to not shoot each other.

Infinite turret build range.

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