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Nonsense posted:hes part of the if you complain about sweat shops you are problematic crowd. SWEAT SHOPS CREATE JOBS!!! 
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Look if you have a problem with it just throw away essentially everything you own and functionally kill yourself. Oh, what's that, you won't? Hypocrites 
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Jul 6, 2016 19:42
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Guys, being ok with rampant bribery and corruption is being an adult. I bet you don't even own your own home yet.
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Bernie booed by house dems for suggesting the party should have goals beyond simply beating Trump (and in fact having those higher goals would energize more voters and help win elections) lmao at this embarrassing party
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Breadallelogram posted:Bernie booed by house dems for suggesting the party should have goals beyond simply beating Trump (and in fact having those higher goals would energize more voters and help win elections) lol there's a reason i'm skeptical that the democratic party is capable of being redeemed...
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I really don't get it. The only way Clinton will lose to Trump is if the dems actively encourage people not to vote.
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Grognan posted:Guys, being ok with rampant bribery and corruption is being an adult. I bet you don't even own your own home yet. One thing i've learned this past year, is that there are more people who say and believe the above, then i had thought possible in even the worst of fevered dreams.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:07
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Breadallelogram posted:Bernie booed by house dems for suggesting the party should have goals beyond simply beating Trump (and in fact having those higher goals would energize more voters and help win elections) it's more that when talking about his own campaign he said it was above the 'movement' more than elections when the question was 'hey the election between you and Clinton is over, you should endorse her already'.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:09
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k then my questions are what does Clinton gain from a Sanders endorsement (right this minute)? what does the "movement" gain from Sanders endorsing Clinton (right this minute)?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:it's more that when talking about his own campaign he said it was above the 'movement' more than elections when the question was 'hey the election between you and Clinton is over, you should endorse her already'. Maybe because by saving the endorsement for the convention, he was able to get something like this out of her? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-education.html?_r=0
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Jul 6, 2016 21:27
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I'd argue that despite their anger, Bernie has done a lot to help the democratic party. Like it or not, he's the current face of a sizeable segment of the party. I (personally) believe the party stands to gain quite a bit by earning an endorsement rather than repeatedly demanding one.
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So does Bernie endorsing Clinton matter or not? Still haven't gotten a straight answer on that.
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same with whether his supporters matter or not in the general are we an insignificant bloc or do we desperately need to be convinced over in the general? 
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Why not both? 
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Ganthu posted:Why not both? because they're two conflicting positions?
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"no no, you see Bernie supporters aren't actually individuals. They are in fact, a super massive superposition that changes values, and properties based upon how you observe it." "You know, just like those immigrants who take all our jobs, but are also lazy.  "
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Jul 6, 2016 21:48
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The Democratic Party can unify they lips with my butthole.
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Ganthu posted:"no no, you see Bernie supporters aren't actually individuals. They are in fact, a super massive superposition that changes values, and properties based upon how you observe it." 
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Bernie getting free college for those in households making under 85k is already a victory Keep going Bernie
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EugeneJ posted:Bernie getting free college for those in households making under 85k is already a victory Can't stop won't stop
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"Alright, I guess the plebs making under 80k can all have free health care" - Hillary's brain That's the one I'm hoping for. I'm still kind of shocked she went along with the college thing. And then the rich get to cry "b-b-but where's our handout?"
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Jul 6, 2016 22:25
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Bernie literally argued that winning isn't important in politics. That's boo worthy.
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Jul 6, 2016 22:28
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We can always count on bip for quality commentary.
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Breadallelogram posted:We can always count on bip for quality commentary. Sorry about elections.
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If you didn't win the election right now then everything you've done has been a waste. You've improved the lives of your constituents but you lost the election? FAILURE. e: But I forget people place party before country
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Jul 6, 2016 22:38
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Bip Roberts posted:Sorry about elections. *glances at 2014 election results* Me too.
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wrong thread friends
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I still think the Clintonland logic on a Bernie endorsement is amazing: "Senator Sanders, you need to maximize the leverage you might have by giving it all away immediately." Small wonder why the ACA and the 1st debt ceiling crisis turned out the way they did, considering the geniuses coming up with negotiation strategies.
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EugeneJ posted:"Alright, I guess the plebs making under 80k can all have free health care" - Hillary's brain Don't worry, if implemented, you can bet that there won't be any sensible scaling back from "free" as income rises. Families will have to make a tough choice between staying under the prescribed income limit or be forced to pay thousands for healthcare because they earn hundreds more.
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Ganthu posted:Maybe because by saving the endorsement for the convention, he was able to get something like this out of her? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-education.html?_r=0 I thought the Sanders campaign had no effect in moving Hillary to the left? I've been lied to. 
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NumberLast posted:If you didn't win the election right now then everything you've done has been a waste. how does this work exactly
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Bernie supporters are Schrödinger's voters that simultaneously matter a lot and not at all
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Badger of Basra posted:how does this work exactly It doesn't, it's just some sour grapes way of implying he will be responsible for anything good that the Democratic Party does in the next X number of months despite being an effete weakling
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Jul 6, 2016 23:53
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punk rebel ecks posted:I thought the Sanders campaign had no effect in moving Hillary to the left? I've been lied to. That remains to be seen. Hillary likes to flip-flop on issues progressives hold dear. With any luck the progressives that get into the Senate will fight for the things Bernie's platform brought up.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:It doesn't, it's just some sour grapes way of implying he will be responsible for anything good that the Democratic Party does in the next X number of months despite being an effete weakling No it isn't. Stop using idiom you don't understand.
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3779366
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Badger of Basra posted:how does this work exactly Getting into office, doing some good things and then losing reelection was the scenario I was imagining 
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Brocialist posted:No it isn't. Stop using idiom you don't understand. Don't worry about him. He's just really bitter for some reason.
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Never Forget https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/688917116314120192
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