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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

What about things like lpt1 or whatever though?

Also I am still confused as to why having a folder named con would affect the command prompt. Shouldn't it know if you are typing in a directory or if you are trying to do the text thing?
As to why this would be a problem specifically, consider this - you're in the root of the C: drive, in it, there's a file "readme.txt" and a folder "con". You type
copy readme.txt con
What does it do? There's no way for the system to know if you want to output this file to the console, or copy it to the folder with the same name. Exactly same problem with the other names.

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I'm sure there's no way they could put in some kind of preferential seek order, check for a folder with the matching name first and then fall back to the special keyword, or anything like that.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Data Graham posted:

I'm sure there's no way they could put in some kind of preferential seek order, check for a folder with the matching name first and then fall back to the special keyword, or anything like that.

Esoteric rules that make scripts gently caress up if a certain filename exists are a million times worse than name restrictions.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

con is also a stupid loving name for either a file or a directory so only an idiot would ever run into problems.

I mean all my files and directories follow the ASD ZXC QWE ÖLK scheme.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sorry, I forgot the idiot fuckface goon who wrote AWFUL. for Windows phones didn't bother with a lot of letters in the alphabet.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Jerry Cotton posted:

Sorry, I am the idiot fuckface goon who uses Windows phones

Ftfy

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

klafbang posted:

Microsoft are VERY good at backwards compatibility,

That's why I was surprised that they didn't care when Windows 8.1 broke Visual Studio 6.

It would be annoying if your name was "Con".

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Like I had a choice. Although now that Nokia is dead I guess we'll get whatever the worst Android phone is.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Bonzo posted:

WinZip and WinRAR have always been able to do this.

I think the issue with this was that the college didn't have either application (it was a long time ago, my memory is hazy). Chainsaw spat out a .bat or an .exe file that stitched your files back together.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Jerry Cotton posted:

Sorry, I forgot the idiot fuckface goon who wrote AWFUL. for Windows phones didn't bother with a lot of letters in the alphabet.

i'm more surprised that someone bothered to write awful app for windows phone

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Jerry Cotton posted:

Like I had a choice. Although now that Nokia is dead I guess we'll get whatever the worst Android phone is.

Just teasing, friend. I was a webOS fanboy back in the day, so I have little room to talk.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Finally managed to read thru at his entire amazing thread.

Two Quake related items for me, I remember reading years ago about a version of Quake that was available in arcades. Turns out I wasn't going crazy and it existed, sort of.

http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9188

Apparently 20 machines were ever created.

The other Quake item was I remember playing a leaked version of Quake that came out just before the full version, possibly a whole 12 days before, that had a bunch of different changes to it, level design and what not. The thing that stood out the most to me was the final level. It wasn't the full versions telefrag the last boss thing but just a crazy hard room with a lot of enemies in it. I know some levels were missing entire enemies and one other level that was filled with water in the full release wasn't.

I'd almost love to play that leaked version again.

Anyone else play it?

Edit: quick google, and it was apparently v0.8

https://tcrf.net/Proto:Quake/Beta3

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
That's amazing, unsurprisingly I had no idea Quake arcade was a thing. I would've played them too, since my computer at the time couldn't really run Quake at anything approaching usable speeds. On the other hand, this was around the time when internet cafes were becoming a thing here, so maybe they just realized they had no future with those.

Not sure what version I tried it first, it was probably the normal 1.0 or whatever by that point.

EvilGenius posted:

I think the issue with this was that the college didn't have either application (it was a long time ago, my memory is hazy). Chainsaw spat out a .bat or an .exe file that stitched your files back together.
WinZip self-extracting archives :eng101:

I think that was support from a very early version, though TBH I'm not sure when split archives were implemented and whether it was possible to combine them.

A CRAB IRL
May 6, 2009

If you're looking for me, you better check under the sea

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Similarly, I remember a really long time ago making a website to annoy my friends and I had a bunch of code in the site like <img src=”a:/image.jpg”> and <img src=”d:/image.jpg”> and <img src=”e:/image.jpg”> and they'd click it and be like "WHY DID MY FLOPPY DRIVE MAKE NOISE AND MY DVD DRIVE START SPINNING WHEN CLICKING THAT LINK?!??!?!".

:twisted:

We had an informal network of RJ45 draped out of windows at my halls of residence in first year of university. I noticed this guy I didn't like all that much had a super noisy A drive, so I sneakily shared it with the public network to access while I was in his room with some friends, and wrote a little script that told it to access a file on A across the network ("fsssh.... tick tick. GRUNCH GRUNCH GRONK") between a random 7 and 20 minute interval, repeating between 1 and 5am. It woke him up so many times and took him weeks to figure out. He even took his PC to bits trying to figure it out.

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Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



EvilGenius posted:

I think the issue with this was that the college didn't have either application (it was a long time ago, my memory is hazy). Chainsaw spat out a .bat or an .exe file that stitched your files back together.

Back when 5 1/4" disks were still a thing I made my own little thing in DOS to zip stuff up with PKZip and split across multiple disks. The first disk would have a batch file on that could start the installation process and everything. I was a precocious nerd child.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Clamps McGraw posted:

It woke him up so many times and took him weeks to figure out. He even took his PC to bits trying to figure it out.
Should have had it play music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM_sAxrAu7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8I6qt_Z0Cg

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Those videos are outdated, this is the current bleeding edge of computer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuCQ3u2N_A

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

error1 posted:

Those videos are outdated, this is the current bleeding edge of computer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuCQ3u2N_A

That's awesome. I wonder how he "tuned" he different disks.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

freeranger posted:

Finally managed to read thru at his entire amazing thread.

Two Quake related items for me, I remember reading years ago about a version of Quake that was available in arcades. Turns out I wasn't going crazy and it existed, sort of.

http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9188

Apparently 20 machines were ever created.

Oh man, that just reminds me about the weird Half Life and Counter Strike arcade adaptions made for Japan.

Half-Life 2: Survivor, which had this amazingly complicated setup of like, two joysticks and foot pedals to control an FPS and you could either play through some kind of arcade exclusive version of the story mode or do missions/deatchmatch stuff.


It had some primo "oh Japan" player models too


There was also Counter Strike: Neo, which was just played with a mouse + keyboard and made the entire game mid-00's scifi/cyberpunk anime. It even had a flash series called White Memories that had... something to do with the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsIhyQIMYKY

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Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

^^^^^^

That is amazing! I had never heard of that one. Thanks for sharing that with me.

I love all these crazy arcade type games!

Speaking of which, I remember seeing this on the news when I was young, possibly during the early 90's.

It was a flying game, where you had 10 minutes to fly into a cave/mountain/volcano and blow up a base. It was meant to be some big competition at the time to find out the best of the best arcade players or something like that. I don't believe it was ever officially released, but I could be very wrong there, as it was only for this particular competition. It wasn't on rails as you could fly around anywhere on the map I believe.

This aired on Australian news, but I don't believe it was an Australian thing, or might have been touring the globe or something.

Does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Buttcoin purse posted:

That's why I was surprised that they didn't care when Windows 8.1 broke Visual Studio 6.

It would be annoying if your name was "Con".

Lmao who in gods name is still using Visual Studio 6

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


freeranger posted:

Finally managed to read thru at his entire amazing thread.

Two Quake related items for me, I remember reading years ago about a version of Quake that was available in arcades. Turns out I wasn't going crazy and it existed, sort of.

http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9188

Apparently 20 machines were ever created.

The other Quake item was I remember playing a leaked version of Quake that came out just before the full version, possibly a whole 12 days before, that had a bunch of different changes to it, level design and what not. The thing that stood out the most to me was the final level. It wasn't the full versions telefrag the last boss thing but just a crazy hard room with a lot of enemies in it. I know some levels were missing entire enemies and one other level that was filled with water in the full release wasn't.

I'd almost love to play that leaked version again.

Anyone else play it?

Edit: quick google, and it was apparently v0.8

https://tcrf.net/Proto:Quake/Beta3

Holy crap - that brought back a memory! I remember the local arcade when I was in my teens in rural backwater Australia had that game, that makes it really weird seeing there were 20 machines made. I tried it once at least. Before I clicked your link I knew it had the trackball.

Gau
Nov 18, 2003

I don't think you understand, Gau.
What was the name of the sequential image downloader that us plebeians used to download porn in the early 2000s? DPPH would be half-full of links to poorly-secured porn sites where you could download their paid content for free if you just had the direct link.

Man, it was a crazy time when paid porn websites were still a thing.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Humphreys posted:

Holy crap - that brought back a memory! I remember the local arcade when I was in my teens in rural backwater Australia had that game, that makes it really weird seeing there were 20 machines made. I tried it once at least. Before I clicked your link I knew it had the trackball.

I think I read it in either Hyper magazine or PC Powerplay.

I wonder if I still have all my old copies of those magazines at my parents house. Might have to look next time I'm there.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

HL2 Survivor can be run on normal PC, if you know where to look for the :filez: version of it. The filesystem is basically a custom version of the original game, it uses some weird resolution and has ton of japanese in GUI, but game itself is perfectly playable. Even the team deathmatch mode with female models of metrocops and overwatch guards works.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


freeranger posted:

I think I read it in either Hyper magazine or PC Powerplay.

I wonder if I still have all my old copies of those magazines at my parents house. Might have to look next time I'm there.

I had a subscription of PCPP from maybe issue 14 or so. I know they are in boxes in storage somewhere, maybe you can help. I remember an article around that time showing the first 1GHz overclocked system that used compressed air and had an air tank on the bottom of the case. It was Indonesian from memory. Would love if you found it.

poo poo one of the reader submitted letters of a guy building his own industrial strength steering wheel controller got me starting in hardware modification.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
There's also a Japanese arcade version of left 4 dead.

My local arcade also had a FPS arcade that used a trackball, it couldn't have been quake considering how rare it was. Maybe Unreal or Sin? From what I vaguely remember it was a death match game and I think you were on a time based system, but I never played the game since it didn't translate well.

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007

Weird quake cabinet talk reminded me of a weird arcade cabinet I came across.

I was at a garage sale and found a Sega Master System 10 game cabinet that supposedly was only made in limited numbers in Japan. And when I opened it up it had all sorts of weird developers keys on a hand labeled keyboard.

It was non functional and I had no idea how to fix it so the guy who runs the SMS forum that I posted to to find out what it was ended up buying it off of ebay from me. He lived in France so I drove it an hour to meet up with a guy on that forum who volunteered to disassemble it and ship it to France.

http://www.smspower.org/forums/9026-SegaMarkIIISoftDesk10WasWhatGameSystemDoIHave

Sadly looking at the thread the guy who was supposed to send it had a garage fire and the cabinet was lost years later.

I did eventually build a MAME cabinet but I used an old Kiosk for a Best Buy register.

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red19fire
May 26, 2010

My dad will not let me throw these books out.



BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Code Jockey posted:

Lmao who in gods name is still using Visual Studio 6

visual studio 6 was really good but later visual studios are also really good and backwards compatible so there's no point

like you can download the latest free VS from microsoft right now and compile quake perfectly and without modification after you have it convert the VS6 project to the new format

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

BattleMaster posted:

visual studio 6 was really good but later visual studios are also really good and backwards compatible so there's no point

Ummmm nooo, no it really wasn't. Its C++ standards compliance was poo poo even by the standard of the time.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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red19fire posted:

My dad will not let me throw these books out.





I wouldn't either, I'll bet those are hilarious.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

feedmegin posted:

Ummmm nooo, no it really wasn't. Its C++ standards compliance was poo poo even by the standard of the time.

as an ide it was really good but i also don't really use c++ so idgaf about visual C++ being bad

edit: like drat if I could use visual studio, even ancient visual studio 6, as an IDE for my embedded poo poo it would be a massive improvement over any of the platform-specific IDEs I've had to use

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Reaganomicon
Jan 31, 2004

Flush please
the notbencejon blog

prince of persia

king's quest

MYST

19622358

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I could use the Office 97 and Windows 95 books.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

error1 posted:

Those videos are outdated, this is the current bleeding edge of computer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuCQ3u2N_A

This one is still my favorite, the old DOOM E1M1 theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7-5WYOKxE

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbjYkPKRm-8

An hour long but chock-full of relics.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

BattleMaster posted:

visual studio 6 was really good but later visual studios are also really good and backwards compatible so there's no point

like you can download the latest free VS from microsoft right now and compile quake perfectly and without modification after you have it convert the VS6 project to the new format

I have code from VC++6 which didn't even compile perfectly in VS2005 or 2008, I can't image it would go better with 2015. Just because the code isn't for an embedded system doesn't mean it's portable, sometimes stuff was written to use some bad language feature. Like maybe if you hunt through the documentation you can find the "do that thing which is a terrible violation of the standard but which Microsoft thought was a good idea for a little while" option but :effort:


If he thinks those 1-2-3 manuals are worth something, tell him no, this one is worth something:



(maybe his are worth something too but I can't imagine it'd be as much as the above :shrug:)

BOOTY-ADE posted:

This one is still my favorite, the old DOOM E1M1 theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7-5WYOKxE

Yeah, I like that one better. It's lower fidelity but somehow just right.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬


My graduate supervisor has like four volumes of binders like this but for Fortran. Always stored in the lab on a shelf right next to the computer. You know, in case he needs it.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

He's just waiting for a student called Tran to come by so he can hand the whole stack to them and say "here, these are for you!"

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