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ryonguy posted:The existence of 3D metal printing makes this sentence obsolete. If you don't mind paying like $800 for some little bracket, sure.
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sirbeefalot posted:If you don't mind paying like $800 for some little bracket, sure. That will break anyway due to being considerably weaker then a milled or forged part.
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Nutsngum posted:That will break anyway due to being considerably weaker then a milled or forged part. Also you have to model it yourself because of course no one else has made it publicly available.
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Delivery McGee posted:Melvil Dewey may yet be vindicated by the Twitter generation. (There have been several attempts to make English spelling make more sense, but Dewey, as you can see from how he chose to spell his first name, was a bit of an extremist. I guess that counts for the thread, since English is still a mess.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1edPxKqiptw&t=30s
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spog posted:I seriously considered it as a portable PC when netbooks were A Thing, but 90mins battery life was just silly when all the competition were offering ones with 3hrs on standard batteries, with the option of bigger ones for 6hrs use. I used to have one of the netbooks that Alienware produced for a few years. Those things were beasts for the time, they're basically totally obsolete now but man did the M11x R3 have specs. It was an 11.6 inch screen netbook with an i7, 4 gigs of ram and a 540M crammed into it. Naturally it got hot, very very very very hot.
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Gromit posted:I won an HP 2133 mini-note PC for writing a computer review some years ago, and man was that ever only a piece of crap. 1.6GHz VIA C7-M processor, Windows Vista Business, 90 minutes of battery life and pretty heavy for the size. I mean, I wasn't complaining as it was essentially free, but you couldn't really do anything with it. I think it has unix on it at this point - I haven't turned it on in years. How much RAM did it have if it was trying to run Vista? I had a similar HP thing with an Atom CPU, 1GB RAM and Windows XP "for ultra-low cost PCs" (whatever that means, I always wondered). It took a pretty long time to fire up Eclipse, or like a whole minute to hibernate or something, but it was worth it to be able to work on the train or bus where it wasn't possible to open the lid of a regular laptop far enough without hitting the seat in front. I don't remember the battery life being that short, but my commute wasn't that long either. Mine doesn't even have VGA output, it has some proprietary thing, and the adapter to VGA cost 1/7th of the cost of the whole device so I skipped that  El Estrago Bonito posted:I used to have one of the netbooks that Alienware produced for a few years. Those things were beasts for the time, they're basically totally obsolete now but man did the M11x R3 have specs. It was an 11.6 inch screen netbook with an i7, 4 gigs of ram and a 540M crammed into it. Naturally it got hot, very very very very hot. The smallest desktop replacement ever?
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sirbeefalot posted:If you don't mind paying like $800 for some little bracket, sure. Yeah this is the problem with 3D printers and why they are already an obsolete technology. Any small, simple object with zero moving parts (i.e.anything a consumer 3D printer could produce for the next 20 years) will be like a tenth the price from a chinese manufacturer.
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Danger Mahoney posted:Yeah this is the problem with 3D printers and why they are already an obsolete technology. Any small, simple object with zero moving parts (i.e.anything a consumer 3D printer could produce for the next 20 years) will be like a tenth the price from a chinese manufacturer. But only if the chinese manufacturer has a demand for thousands of the simple object. Tooling and set-up costs means you have to a lot to get anything like a reasonable cost per piece.
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Buttcoin purse posted:How much RAM did it have if it was trying to run Vista? I just fired it up and it has 2GB.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I used to have one of the netbooks that Alienware produced for a few years. Those things were beasts for the time, they're basically totally obsolete now but man did the M11x R3 have specs. It was an 11.6 inch screen netbook with an i7, 4 gigs of ram and a 540M crammed into it. Naturally it got hot, very very very very hot. 
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spog posted:But only if the chinese manufacturer has a demand for thousands of the simple object. Not necessarily if you can get someone with a CnC. Of course, someone would have to create a model and drawing for said part. The place I used to work at, had a lot of orders come through for replacement parts. Quite a few that hadn't been built in 20+ years had molds that the casting house lost. For one or two parts being made, it was much cheaper and efficient to redesign it for CnC and run it through a 5-axis machine than it was to have a new mold made. I mean, sure it would be more expensive than buying an off the shelf mass produced part, but this is a theoretical time when there are no more existent spare parts. Edit: On top of that a rapid prototyped part can be really durable. I redesigned a part, and for a machined prototype it was something like $2000 for one, and $60 for two via the rapid prototype (keep in mind this wasn't a home-user level 3D printer). This part held up an aircraft door and only a small piece chipped off and didn't compromise the part otherwise. Iron Crowned has a new favorite as of 14:04 on Jul 7, 2016 |
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Buttcoin purse posted:How much RAM did it have if it was trying to run Vista? I still have my MSI U100 Wind. 1.8 ghz Atom 2GB of RAM. I put a 100GB SSD in it and installed Win 10 and it just zips along. Compact and great battery life.
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Erugh that reminded me of some dreadful VIA IDE controller on an old system that was a 0.1 volt off by default and kept on crashing. You don't know stress till you're rushing to get uni work done the night before and it will BSOD roulette as your fingers are glued to ctrl-s.
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AlternateAccount posted:Uhh Walmart DOES get special stripped down extra lovely versions of electronics sometimes to cut the costs even lower. Actually it is documented that one of WalMart's regular strategies is to go to vendors and say, basically, "Your product is $300. We want to buy it at $275. Make it happen, or we stop carrying you."
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Buttcoin purse posted:Windows XP "for ultra-low cost PCs" (whatever that means, I always wondered) Did it have a tiny (4 or 8 GB) SSD? If so it was probably a stripped down build of XP to fit on a small drive.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:A LOT of shops do that so they have something to shove out the door on Black Friday or for other radical market segmentation reasons or to confound price comparisons or any of a hundred other client-hostile reasons. Plus it avoids price matching. "Oh, wait, that's a model 765M in the ad. This is a model 765WM."
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Danger Mahoney posted:Yeah this is the problem with 3D printers and why they are already an obsolete technology. Any small, simple object with zero moving parts (i.e.anything a consumer 3D printer could produce for the next 20 years) will be like a tenth the price from a chinese manufacturer. Calling 3D printers an obsolete technology is like saying automobiles will never take off because horses are cheaper, and is probably the dumbest statement in this entire thread.
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ryonguy posted:Calling 3D printers an obsolete technology is like saying automobiles will never take off because horses are cheaper, and is probably the dumbest statement in this entire thread. filament-based 3D printers are an obsolete technology
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atomicthumbs posted:filament-based 3D printers are an obsolete technology I'll agree to that
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WebDog posted:Erugh that reminded me of some dreadful VIA IDE controller on an old system that was a 0.1 volt off by default and kept on crashing. I had a horrible chipset from VIA that was the same way - random BSOD's during heavy disk use. Just often enough to drive me nuts and not often enough for me to build a new system right away. Goddamn VIA694x, never owned another VIA chipset, gently caress that company.
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ryonguy posted:Calling 3D printers an obsolete technology is like saying automobiles will never take off because horses are cheaper, and is probably the dumbest statement in this entire thread. 3D printing isn’t going to replace traditional manufacturing techniques in the way automobiles replaced horses. It will be used more widely in the future, but it’s never going to replace all other techniques wholesale. A better analogy might be LASERs, which have their own uses but didn’t replace incandescent or fluorescent illumination.
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atomicthumbs posted:filament-based 3D printers are an obsolete technology I have a ~$800 dual extruder 3D printer and make a handy side income re manufacturing old random 'No Longer Available' spare parts for a lot of aircons and fridges. Most of them at this stage are one off's but saving the files as I go and adding them to our company's substitute parts listing helps in the future. It's boring stuff like brackets and stepper horns but my customers at my real job really appreciate the effort to get them up and running again. It's beer money at this stage and they pay a huge premium over the original parts price, but they save having to buy a new appliance over a single lovely plastic part.
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:
Related: Grumman LLV
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Geoj posted:Did it have a tiny (4 or 8 GB) SSD? If so it was probably a stripped down build of XP to fit on a small drive. It has a 80GB spinning disk (using present tense for a reason - I should find a reason to get rid of this  ). I guess Asus eeePCs would have had small SSDs to fit XP on though so they probably needed special baby XP?
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I was hoping for that to say what kind of mileage those have on them!
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:I'd love to see a car manufacturer emerge that could produce a safe, cheap, reliable car that's built to last and easy to fix. Performance and luxury be damned. Its got to be possible.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I guess Asus eeePCs would have had small SSDs to fit XP on though so they probably needed special baby XP? The EEEPC mod scene was amusing, someone even managed to squeeze MacOS onto there.
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I bought one of those older model eeePCs once upon a time. It's long been relegated to a conversation piece because its dated rear end looks like a leftover prop from the film Hackers:  not my photo See how it's kind of...pink-ish? It's hard to tell in the photo, but it's got this weird iridescent finish on it that gives it a pearl-esque look.
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I had a late model netbook from Toshiba and the little thing was actually surprisingly powerful for what it was. It was one of the 2010 Atoms, but it could handle HD video and libreoffice pretty well once I threw Linux on it.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:I bought one of those older model eeePCs once upon a time. I've got a 700 with a broken 'P' Not sure if it is worth doing anything with - the screen res of 800x480 is bloody awful as so much won't fit properly.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I was hoping for that to say what kind of mileage those have on them! Mileage as in fuel efficiency or how much the LLVs get driven? For fuel efficiency, they average 17 MPG mechanically but get 10 MPG in practice because of the stop-and-go travel they make. In terms of age, this article talks about some plans for fixing up the old trucks. No new LLVs have been made since 1994, so the newest vehicles are 20 years old. I think an average route is something like 12 to 15 miles, so do that 6 days a week for 20 years and you've got a good 93,000 or 94,000 miles on the newest trucks. I'd say to add another 5000 miles or so for each further year of use. The plans for keeping them in service is to just put the bodies on newly made chassis.
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Gromit posted:I won an HP 2133 mini-note PC for writing a computer review some years ago, and man was that ever only a piece of crap. 1.6GHz VIA C7-M processor, Windows Vista Business, 90 minutes of battery life and pretty heavy for the size. I mean, I wasn't complaining as it was essentially free, but you couldn't really do anything with it. I think it has unix on it at this point - I haven't turned it on in years. Oh man, I bought one of those new. It was years ahead of other netbooks on screen resolution (it had the full 720 rather than a 640 that cut off menu windows in apps). But that VIA processor. I never once complained about anemic Intel Atom CPUs after trying to use that C7-M. Atoms were speed demons compared to that thing. It was retired early and eventually turned on just long enough to trade in for a ChromeBook during a Best Buy promotion.
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spog posted:I've got a 700 with a broken 'P' I've got an Acer Aspire One because it was one of the first netbooks I saw that had a keyboard I could touch-type on, because it didn't shrink any keys. The resolution is 1024x600, so lots of programs almost fit, but not quite. It also has a nice big margin of plastic around the actual screen, making it appear larger when closed.
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Stick Insect posted:I've got an Acer Aspire One because it was one of the first netbooks I saw that had a keyboard I could touch-type on, because it didn't shrink any keys. The resolution is 1024x600, so lots of programs almost fit, but not quite. gently caress I hated my aspire one super fast. Ended up writing notes on paper to save time.
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Elliotw2 posted:I had a late model netbook from Toshiba and the little thing was actually surprisingly powerful for what it was. It was one of the 2010 Atoms, but it could handle HD video and libreoffice pretty well once I threw Linux on it. I have an HP somewhere in my closet from about the same time. I pretty much just used it to surf the internet while watching TV, and then I spilled beer on it.
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Calculator update. I got myself one of those magnifying glass lamp thingies and got to work cleaning up the Hamann Manus R.  WIP:  Finished result looks good, though:  Bonus Curta  
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I know the traditional credit card swipe reader is about to be worthy of this thread, but for fucks sake, why do the new chip readers do the following after I enter my card? Reading...do not remove card>APPROVED>Do Not Remove Card>Please Wait for Cashier>APPROVED>Do Not Forget Card
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Mercury Ballistic posted:I know the traditional credit card swipe reader is about to be worthy of this thread, but for fucks sake, why do the new chip readers do the following after I enter my card? I think APPROVED is just the machine's way of saying that it completed a step and it doesn't have any other positive message. The best part is when stores get totally retrofitted with new readers with a chip slot....and then you have to swipe anyway because their system hasn't yet been updated to actually use them.
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