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Jordan7hm posted:Politics. They promised the centre to get votes. Specifically, to make up for closing the gun registry centre, which was previously located there.
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Who gives a gently caress? I'd just write that shithole off entirely. What's one riding?
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reminder that asbestos mining/export was allowed to continue to buy the votes of one lovely town in northern quebec
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Pinterest Mom posted:Well it doesn't fit ~the narrative~ about Canada. quote:[Giorgio Mammoliti] has blamed a few of his erratic comments on a brain fistula he had removed in 2013, but nobody has since been able to tell the difference in his behaviour. Add another contradiction to Toronto’s growing list: it must be the best-run city in the world run by idiots. 
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Hey CI and Helsing, I have a job opportunity for you. I will gladly write a reference letter about all the contributions you've made to an internet forum.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:You're right of course. The honourable minister would certainly not have been briefed on the state of the system and its risk profile. There is certainly no way that she could have directed the public service to slow the transfer profiles to the new system, and certainly no way that she could have directed her officials to supplement the system using a temporary centre of excellence. Those measures certainly had to wait until after the system had been activated and its shortfalls realized. It's how things are done, you know. If you think it's simple or even necessarily possible for a rollout that large to be stopped (or even delayed) by a minister whose first day on the job was three months before the cutover, you clearly have no experience in this area.
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tagesschau posted:If you think it's simple or even necessarily possible for a rollout that large to be stopped (or even delayed) by a minister whose first day on the job was three months before the cutover, you clearly have no experience in this area. The article cites two problems - a lack of capacity, and the speed with which transfer of files from the old system to the new system occurred. Minister Foote's transition book certainly contained details about an initiative as transformational to PWGSC as pay modernization (I'd suggest you check this and confirm, but the Government thoughtfully neglected to include the Government Business chapter of the Minister's binders). The transition book would spell out the state of the project and operational risks. You can bet money that a department as conservative (in the sense of a slow-moving, lumbering organization, not as in abortion-hating evangelicals) as PWGSC would have identified all of the associated risks, and given the Minister suggestions on a path forward. One could quite reasonable assume that, as in the case of email transformation (another massive IT project which the current government halted in November, scant days after being elected), the pace of file transfer could have been slowed or paused to accommodate the structural risks associated with the project. One could also quite reasonably suggest that the mitigation measures put in place after the system was deployed (retaining temporary staff to deal with a backlog) could have been deployed in advance of the system's activation in order to facilitate the transition (which would have had the advantage of the November - February period to train additional staff). But no, by all means, it's much easier to blame PT6A posted:Who gives a gently caress? I'd just write that shithole off entirely. What's one riding? Writing off poo poo-holes is no way to build a nation. Glass houses, etc.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:The article cites two problems - a lack of capacity, and the speed with which transfer of files from the old system to the new system occurred. lol
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Truly a scintillating argument. I am utterly convinced of the correctness of your position. Thank you for correcting me.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:Truly a scintillating argument. I am utterly convinced of the correctness of your position. Thank you for correcting me. Your whole post is dumb and its clear you are just trying to look smart by producing a bunch of IT words you probably googled at random and jamming them into a non-coherent rant. Youre making PT6A look rational.
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Furnaceface posted:Your whole post is dumb and its clear you are just trying to look smart by producing a bunch of IT words you probably googled at random and jamming them into a non-coherent rant. It's too late, I've already been convinced. Incidentally, which IT words did you have trouble with? If it's structure, I can probably put a flow chart together for you.
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:It's too late, I've already been convinced. Both of you shut the gently caress up, I do outsourcing projects that size and much bigger for a living, I know more about them that you do, and the last thing I want is to read about it here babbled by people who know less about it and cherry pick random details to make a political point
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guys i am an it expert so
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Rust Martialis posted:Both of you shut the gently caress up, I do outsourcing projects that size and much bigger for a living, I know more about them that you do, and the last thing I want is to read about it here babbled by people who know less about it and cherry pick random details to make a political point No you shut the gently caress up, dad! Also, Im applying to be a senator. CI, Im using you as a reference.
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I handle more network traffic and steal more CC info every day than your pitiful civil services, and am the greatest at it and video games to boot, viva the robotic Sony products revolution.
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I'm the greatest at IT, I have the biggest brain, it's the best, really. You can't find a better brain or a guy that's better at IT, believe me! 
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I remember the last time someone went on about being an IT expert in this thread.
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Furnaceface posted:No you shut the gently caress up, dad! well there'd definitely be less physical strain in being a senator than handing out blister packs all day rekt
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OSI bean dip posted:I remember the last time someone went on about being an IT expert in this thread. Yeah, that was amusing.
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namaste faggots posted:guys i am an it expert so What's your favorite time/temp combo for sous vide chuck steak? I got a couple big steaks from my butcher and I'm trying to get as close as possible to a sirloin texture-wise. Also what are your thoughts on adding a few drops of fish sauce to the bag while it cooks for an extra umami kick?
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Hexigrammus posted:Yeah, that was amusing. Was that the time the guy was saying, "No, online voting is a good idea and not horribly insecure, I know this because I'm a computer science student?" Or was that a separate incident? I can't keep them straight anymore. Got to go to bed now, because the retard parade is going to wake me up at an ungodly hour tomorrow morning. I want to go take a runny poo poo on all the prearranged chairs that are set up, but my bowels just aren't cooperating tonight.
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namaste faggots posted:well there'd definitely be less physical strain in being a senator than handing out blister packs all day I already told you a machine makes those and we love that machine. 
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Whiskey Sours posted:What's your favorite time/temp combo for sous vide chuck steak? I got a couple big steaks from my butcher and I'm trying to get as close as possible to a sirloin texture-wise. I actually use hondashi or msg on a lot of cooking. A pinch of hondashi in an ossobuco is phenomenal. I think fish sauce could be interesting but it's really salty so take it easy. I generally cook my shoe leather steaks at whatever temperature anova recommends so 129f for an hour. Last time I marinaded a blade steel in red wine for 4 hours and it was delicious.
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OSI bean dip posted:The Canadian Taxpayers Federation willfully ignores conservative-leaning initiatives so this will blow over on their part. they called him out on it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jason-kenney-canadian-taxpayers-federation-alberta-1.3668514 Jean Charest did the same thing, twice, so it's kind of a moot issue.
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namaste faggots posted:I actually use hondashi or msg on a lot of cooking. A pinch of hondashi in an ossobuco is phenomenal. I think fish sauce could be interesting but it's really salty so take it easy. What kind of a scrub marinades for only 4 hours? Go back to real estate and IT, leave to cooking to us real chefs.
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Hal_2005 posted:they called him out on it. Well nonetheless Kenney is a useless tit and any Albertan that supports him has poo poo for brains.
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Furnaceface posted:What kind of a scrub marinades for only 4 hours? Go back to real estate and IT, leave to cooking to us real chefs. The kind of scrub that doesn't have enough time in the day to plan everything in advance because he's trying to keep a 19 month old from accidental death 
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namaste faggots posted:The kind of scrub that doesn't have enough time in the day to plan everything in advance because he's trying to keep a 19 month old from accidental death Well theres your problem. You didnt wrap it. The steaks 
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Dallan Invictus posted:Jason Kenney will continue as an MP (and drawing his MP's salary) during his provincial leadership campaign. At least the CTF is consistent, or at least they are self-aware enough to have to make their outrage known.
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Lars Blitzer posted:At least the CTF is consistent, or at least they are self-aware enough to have to make their outrage known. The CTF is poo poo, but once in a while feigns outrage against the right, such as this case, or for Economic Action Plan ads while after they've been going on. They'll spend a day on that before going back to their usual motives. Like for Vancouver, they were the figureheads for voting No on the transit referendum for more funding. And since they've won that battle they've started attacking TransLink on things like "why aren't you spending more money on X and Y, people demand better!" knowing drat well despite being the problem, they're sticking out for the ~average person~
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:The article cites two problems - a lack of capacity, and the speed with which transfer of files from the old system to the new system occurred. Yes, the previous minister would have had time to make such a decision. I have no idea why you remain under the impression that it certainly must have been possible to delay the rollout of the new system or (possibly more importantly) the decommissioning of the old system.
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tagesschau posted:Yes, the previous minister would have had time to make such a decision. I have no idea why you remain under the impression that it certainly must have been possible to delay the rollout of the new system or (possibly more importantly) the decommissioning of the old system. The Government has a storied history of delaying and postponing major IT projects. One (actually two) recent example is the postponing of it's email transformation initiative in November 2015 (which, for those of you keeping track, is after Foote became Minister), and again in May 2016. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-email-system-halted-1.3565191 Pay Transformation is a big deal to PWGSC, and you can bet that the Minister would have been briefed on all pertinent details, including potential risks as a part of her transition briefings. The Facts posted:The first test of how well it works will be May 4, the first payday for all 101 departments and agencies using Phoenix. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ps-pay-change-will-go-ahead-only-if-the-government-is-99-per-cent-sure-it-will-work-official-says, Arguing that the Minister couldn't have done anything because the timelines were too rapid and the project too big is pretty disingenuous.
Given that the new system was activated in February and the first payday not made until three months later, the only politician who wears this is Foote.
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America what the poo poo man, someone went full tactical.
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Email consolidation is a significantly simpler process to slow down/stop than pay/compensation. Don't be obtuse.
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MA-Horus posted:America what the poo poo man, someone went full tactical. BREAKING:  COUNTRY FLUSH WITH WEAPONS ERUPTS IN VIOLENCE THAT INCLUDES WEAPONS
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Especially since the Phoenix rollout wouldn't have been nearly as big an issue (even full of bugs as it was) if it weren't for the mess relating to moving the pay centre to Miramichi and sending everyone who knew what they were doing but somehow didn't want to live in
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MA-Horus posted:America what the poo poo man, someone went full tactical. Texas? Did you see the part where they strapped a bomb on their bomb disposal robot and used it to kill one of the suspects?
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Fluffy Chainsaw posted:The Government has a storied history of delaying and postponing major IT projects. One (actually two) recent example is the postponing of it's email transformation initiative in November 2015 (which, for those of you keeping track, is after Foote became Minister), and again in May 2016. Yeah, you really don't know what you're talking about. Their ability to postpone one IT project doesn't imply that this is possible in all cases. Hell, I've got a system that has only about a hundred users and needs to be replaced, and due to the decision-makers repeatedly making and unmaking their decisions, we're now looking maybe doing this in 2018. brucio posted:Email consolidation is a significantly simpler process to slow down/stop than pay/compensation. Don't be obtuse. no man its just like upgrading from pop to imap
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namaste faggots posted:I actually use hondashi or msg on a lot of cooking. A pinch of hondashi in an ossobuco is phenomenal. I think fish sauce could be interesting but it's really salty so take it easy. You eat food? I always thought you lived on the tears of Vancouverites who can't afford a detached house. We are joining NATO in Latvia. Trudeau, the war monger. Did the fighter jets ever actually leave Syria or are they just relocating? http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cananda-nato-baltic-troops-1.3669952 quote:Canada will soon deploy a battle group of soldiers as well as significant equipment to Latvia as part of a stepped-up NATO plan to deter further Russian aggression in Eastern Europe, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will tell Western leaders today in Warsaw.
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Forums posters, more knowledgeable about government capabilities than Yaprak and Brison.Treasury Board secretary Yaprak Baltacioglu. posted:“We are feeding into them and alerting them if we are running into problems. If they feel we’re not ready, they will delay. If they feel 99 per cent of it is going to work, then we will go forward.” Minister Brison posted:He said the final decision to proceed rests with Public Services and Procurement Minister Judy Foote, whose department oversees the massive pay transformation process.
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