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they matter during placement because it still counts as one of your 10 games you don't lose rank for leaving during the grace period so it doesn't matter if you take a loss after you've finished your placements
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Manatee Cannon posted:they matter during placement because it still counts as one of your 10 games I'm pretty sure that you lose rank like a normal loss, you just don't get a leaver penalty 'ding'.
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Jul 8, 2016 00:25
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Manatee Cannon posted:they matter during placement because it still counts as one of your 10 games The "grace period" only refers to leaver penalties, which can lock you out of play if you rack up enough of them. It doesn't protect you from the rank-down that comes with a loss.
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o, well nvm me then
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Corbeau posted:Several of my friends have been talking up Overwatch. Not sure it's my kind of game though. My favorite FPS of all time was Bad Company 2, with a close second being the Left 4 Dead series. Very different styles of game, I think. Any character suggestions for Overwatch that might get close to the flow (movement physics, kit, etc.) of playing BC2 or L4D? Soldier 76, Just pretend you have an AN94 or m416(?) murder machine in 4 to 5 shot bursts
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Jul 8, 2016 00:32
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A few days ago, I was in comp and someone left our team. We actually ended up winning somehow, but we got a diminished reward for overcoming the numbers in a 5v6. 
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Jul 8, 2016 00:56
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yeah now you're getting it just post buff junkrat
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I'll keep speaking my mind till I get perma banned. But as I continue to pour more and more hours into Widowmaker to adjust for the terrible executive decision to nerf the scope/jumping while scoped/fluidity that ruins Widowmaker (the once most most satisfying sniper to play in an FPS game) I have come to conclusion that it is just not worth it anymore. Let me continue. As much as the casuals love to not see Widowmakers wreck them in pubs/ranked play, Widowmaker barely makes a scene at the top tier end play and tournaments globally. I've seen more Hanzo footage lately than of a rare offensive Widow on a short portion of a payload map. I find that to be a huge problem with the influx of Pharah/Soldier 76 mains running around that are blowing up teams. Widow was suppose to be the counter to these far ranged mobile DPSers and that is not the case currently. Every serious fps game has the headshot snipers that in the right hands make people rage quit/slam their keyboard and the only sole counter is up close and personal flanker (sometimes unsuccessful) or a better sniper. In Overwatch where verticality, movement speed, and amount of heroes that can take out even the best of sharp shooters, there is nothing short of a punch in the face when she can't even scope in quick enough to flickshot, fire while jumping, before teammates can help protect or aid the kill in the current meta. Right now the statuettes that we call Widowmakers are the 1st and easiest target to kill in any given situation. Hell even Mei can 2 shot bodyshot a widow in medium range and she's dead (hitbox on projectiles is huge but that's another argument). In addition, Hanzo the so called meta sniper now has an ult that wipes out a team clumped up, climbs walls, never has to reload or wait for a long !@# rescope, and his range dmg from 1K miles away never drops off, not to mention headshots are huge hitbox radius. Oh and he also strafes and can move in air and shoot waaaay better than Widow can now. So he pokes out, hides behind wall with the way the 20 tick rate in this game is, and by the time you pick out his location you have an arrow through your head. Now all you have for Widow is a nice red streak that tells her exact location, a 12 sec grapple hook CD, and pray your targets are standing still or running in straight lines for that headshot but don't try to quickscope! No no no...because if you do you'll do what I see a lot on my shots the nice red X/ping sound for headshot and the 300 hp hero still alive by 5-7hp. That is a huge problem. Onto the Widowmaker vs Widowmaker battle currently. Before all teams had one good precision sharp shooter. Whichever was the better sniper better aided their team which is how it should be. And if no one can counter the good sniper well get good. And not just everyone can sniper consistently and get headshots 6/10. It's a skill and glorified in every game once mastered. Now a stationary Widowmaker that never scopes out can beat a hopping, grappling, mobile Widowmaker that uses movement to try to dodge/have a good open view of what lies ahead. That problem is due to the scope animation taking waaay too long and not being able to charge up shot/stay scoped while bouncing or strafing left to right vice versa. I don't enjoy statuette roulette and with that being the case forget trying to pick off the genji that will wipe your team once his Ult is up. My biggest concern is that Widowmaker or any sniper is designed to take out high dmg dealing targets from long range to aid the team. If she can quickscope-flickshot a Genji/Tracer in point blank range why don't you reward her for that? Sure it's possible but it is more of luck now with very low probability. Who counters Pharah now that is being aided by Mercy always? Soldier 76? The skillful (sarcasm) left click hold hero? Who counters Soldier now? A Genji in the backline? So one counter to the DPS meta, ok makes sense. Now let's ask, who counters Widow now? That answer is almost everyone. So with that being said she is out of the meta for all the reasons listed above and notice how I did not complain about bodyshot dmg at all? The SCOPE ANIMATION and not being able to stay scoped while bouncing/moving is killing your pinnacle sniper Blizzard, you know the one you made the "Alive" trailer about showcasing her lethal ways + mobility. Even in the best hands Widow gets kills but doesn't help her team enough for her to be an effective 6th member of high level competitive play. And you casuals want to argue about quickscoping is not right or it's not "CoD" yet CS: Go which has the biggest Esports fanbase/community allows a sniper to bodyshot no scope and get a full kill. Don't talk to me about balance. This game is not creep around corners and pray you get a headshot. This game is fast paced..if not the fastest paced FPS on the market. With verticality and counters and if you Blizzard cannot respect the core sniper in your game well that is a huge letdown and is a shameful display. She is in crisis and she needs a lot of attention. I await your hateful bitter comments below. http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745666994
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Jul 8, 2016 03:15
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Nerfed Widow so hard you couldn't even hit the right thread for complaints with her.
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Jul 8, 2016 03:18
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Finally finished my 10 placement matches, got rank 62 which Im extremely happy with as a mainly support placer My highlight was definitely a Nepal KotH match as lucio where I ended up with 4 gold medals
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This is far from the first time I've seen this complaint and as someone who doesn't really play sniper characters I've got to ask, is removing the apparently unintended quickscoping from Widowmaker really enough to consign her to some garbage pit of underpowered characters because so many people seem super loving pissed about it. It seems to me that if you're actually good at clicking on heads that Widowmaker should still be pretty good, and I still do die to getting headshot from across the way by competent Widowmaker players, but is losing quickscoping really the make or break for her?
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Jul 8, 2016 03:34
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Kai Tave posted:This is far from the first time I've seen this complaint and as someone who doesn't really play sniper characters I've got to ask, is removing the apparently unintended quickscoping from Widowmaker really enough to consign her to some garbage pit of underpowered characters because so many people seem super loving pissed about it. It seems to me that if you're actually good at clicking on heads that Widowmaker should still be pretty good, and I still do die to getting headshot from across the way by competent Widowmaker players, but is losing quickscoping really the make or break for her? It's just bad xXx_pr0_snipa_xXx types whining
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Jul 8, 2016 03:36
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Put a csgo guy with an awp in the game
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verbal enema posted:Put a csgo guy with an awp in the game Maybe even give him a grappling hook
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Lost the last ten games and 4 competitive ranks solo queue. Which brings me to my big complaint: if I have 3 gold medals (objective time, healing, and somehow objective kills) with Mercy, why am I losing half a rank because these scrub lords think we need two ginjis, a widow maker, a reaper, and a dva?
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Jul 8, 2016 03:46
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FiestaDePantalones posted:Lost the last ten games and 4 competitive ranks solo queue. Which brings me to my big complaint: if I have 3 gold medals (objective time, healing, and somehow objective kills) with Mercy, why am I losing half a rank because these scrub lords think we need two ginjis, a widow maker, a reaper, and a dva? Because comp is poo poo.
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verbal enema posted:Put a csgo guy with an awp in the game Replace soldiers gun with AK47 tia
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FiestaDePantalones posted:Lost the last ten games and 4 competitive ranks solo queue. Which brings me to my big complaint: if I have 3 gold medals (objective time, healing, and somehow objective kills) with Mercy, why am I losing half a rank because these scrub lords think we need two ginjis, a widow maker, a reaper, and a dva? Don't worry, the next couple games you'll be winning and then someone will leave and you'll regain 1/8 of a loss! #CompOverwatch I just don't get too upset about it because you know people are going to complain enough for them to fix some of these issues.
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Kai Tave posted:This is far from the first time I've seen this complaint and as someone who doesn't really play sniper characters I've got to ask, is removing the apparently unintended quickscoping from Widowmaker really enough to consign her to some garbage pit of underpowered characters because so many people seem super loving pissed about it. It seems to me that if you're actually good at clicking on heads that Widowmaker should still be pretty good, and I still do die to getting headshot from across the way by competent Widowmaker players, but is losing quickscoping really the make or break for her? Yes, it did. Her ability to snipe heads makes her a rare specialist pick, mostly on certain offense(!) maps but she's a shadow of what she used to be.
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FiestaDePantalones posted:Lost the last ten games and 4 competitive ranks solo queue. Which brings me to my big complaint: if I have 3 gold medals (objective time, healing, and somehow objective kills) with Mercy, why am I losing half a rank because these scrub lords think we need two ginjis, a widow maker, a reaper, and a dva? Don't play mercy if that is your temp comp.
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Jul 8, 2016 04:17
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Jul 8, 2016 04:20
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Yes, it did. I'm glad
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Jul 8, 2016 04:31
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Well it seems like some folks down in Dallas still think Widow is viable enough to run with two on a team. I hate myself for this so much but yeah, I used to love Widow and now I never touch her.
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Jul 8, 2016 04:38
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Away all Goats posted:Maybe even give him a grappling hook Nope no bullshit as nonsense like that he ain't widow Just some idiot with an awp
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Jul 8, 2016 04:45
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verbal enema posted:Nope no bullshit as nonsense like that he ain't widow You're a beautiful human being and it's a tragedy we don't play more.
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Jul 8, 2016 04:50
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I mean I suppose I can't say I'm all that broken up that people who want to play the sniper now have to actually be as MLG pro as the vast preponderance of sniper players imagine themselves to be in order to get the most out of the character, I guess I'm just surprised that of all the changes that could have resulted in her being a "shadow of her former self" it's basically patching out something that Blizzard says they never really intended in the first place.
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Kai Tave posted:I mean I suppose I can't say I'm all that broken up that people who want to play the sniper now have to actually be as MLG pro as the vast preponderance of sniper players imagine themselves to be in order to get the most out of the character, I guess I'm just surprised that of all the changes that could have resulted in her being a "shadow of her former self" it's basically patching out something that Blizzard says they never really intended in the first place. That shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with Blizzard's history. Look at Brood War vs. StarCraft 2, for instance. Also, the bodyshot nerf is what would have restricted her usefulness to "MLG pros"; the quickscope thing pretty much neutered her entirely, pro or not. It makes sense that they nerfed it because it was absolutely what controlled Widowmaker's skill ceiling but removing animation cancels is also a good way to make a character's controls feel like garbage no matter who they are. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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 97 direct rocket hits, the other team rolled like 3-4 Winstons for all 3 rounds
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Verranicus posted:You're a beautiful human being and it's a tragedy we don't play more. well we should fix that!
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:That shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with Blizzard's history. Look at Brood War vs. StarCraft 2, for instance. I don't really view animation cancelling as "exploits" the same way that, I dunno, that macro some people are using to feather-fire Soldier's assault rifle to prevent spread, but I guess I don't also view them as integral gameplay elements either? Like if this was a Platinum game or something maybe I'd feel different, but as it is I look at some of the stuff people do like try to find ways to reload quicker by melee'ing within 0.5 seconds of this part of the animation or quickswitching between weapons to hammer Torb turrets into existence faster and my thought is that probably isn't actually something that's supposed to be there so I'm not really going to be upset if they go and tweak things so you can't do that stuff anymore, and I suppose I lump quickscoping into that same category since until I even learned that it was a thing and what it did I had blithely operated under the assumption that Widowmaker was supposed to work the way she does now where you have to wait for the animation to complete instead of constantly scoping in and out. It just seems weird to say "this character now works as intended, therefore they suck."
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FiestaDePantalones posted:Lost the last ten games and 4 competitive ranks solo queue. Which brings me to my big complaint: if I have 3 gold medals (objective time, healing, and somehow objective kills) with Mercy, why am I losing half a rank because these scrub lords think we need two ginjis, a widow maker, a reaper, and a dva? Someone here told me that if the teams sucked just consider it time to do Reaper practice, and since then I've been having more fun in competition. I've also had luckier team composition though too.
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i shouldn't have bought that El Blanco skin for edgelord, I feel like now that i have it i became much more likely to play as him even when i feel that the situation requires another character but it looks so good 
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Jul 8, 2016 07:23
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buying the best skin for a character is never wrong
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Dumbass question of the day: is it true that your accuracy drops if you hold down LMB with Soldier 76? Are you supposed to be firing in bursts? Is the crosshair spread an accurate indicator of S76's rifle accuracy?
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rear end posted:Dumbass question of the day: is it true that your accuracy drops if you hold down LMB with Soldier 76? Are you supposed to be firing in bursts? Is the crosshair spread an accurate indicator of S76's rifle accuracy? Accuracy is affected after 4 shots from the rifle
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Just realized that I had to select 144hz refresh rate from the video options in order to experience that feature of my monitor. 
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Reminder that character classes designed to instantly kill enemies at an uncounterable distance, with none of the traditional "weaknesses" of said class, are completely balanced. Nerfing such a class is absurd, and ruins the game for people that actually matter.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reminder that character classes designed to instantly kill enemies at an uncounterable distance, with none of the traditional "weaknesses" of said class, are completely balanced. Nerfing such a class is absurd, and ruins the game for people that actually matter. Somebody's been fighting Widowmaker. And is also somebody I can relate to.
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I played Mei for the first time tonight and she is "cool" heh. What's her best skin
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Darth Windu posted:I played Mei for the first time tonight and she is "cool" heh. What's her best skin Default recolors. The others are just sort of ugly.
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