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evenworse username posted:Rhupert's songs working on jacks is confirmed as being part of the errata. goddammit
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Wizard Styles posted:Has anyone played with the Fane Knight in Mk3? His output looks pretty anemic for such an expensive solo, but a Shield Guard that can easily reach twentysomething ARM against shooting shouldn't be too bad. Fane knight is 4 mk2 points, can be healed by the lyss Healer, gained shield guard, and all for losing rapid strike which I found useful in about 40% of mk2 games. He's drat near auto include.
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PaintVagrant posted:goddammit it's fine, he can still sing concealment or tough to Severius, we're still okay
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GEMorris posted:Fane knight is 4 mk2 points, can be healed by the lyss Healer, gained shield guard, and all for losing rapid strike which I found useful in about 40% of mk2 games. I'd honestly rather have the Aspis in most cases. Cheaper cost, a ton more boxes, heals for free and I've found beatback more useful lategame to clear a zone/flag than I have one big POW 15 attack. The loss of rapid strike has dropped him from all of my lists, unfortunately.
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mp5 posted:it's fine, he can still sing concealment or tough to Severius, we're still okay Kills me that he won't play with Khador. I can't think of a solo that I wouldn't give up to get him.
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fnordcircle posted:Kills me that he won't play with Khador. I can't think of a solo that I wouldn't give up to get him. You can have him if you give up Alton Ashley, aka grevious wound on a stick.
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Khisanth Magus posted:You can have him if you give up Alton Ashley, aka grevious wound on a stick. Done. If I could have a 33% chance of surviving in games where it took the last shot to kill my caster I think I'd trade my first born.
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fnordcircle posted:Done. If I could have a 33% chance of surviving in games where it took the last shot to kill my caster I think I'd trade my first born. Play any of the Butchers and laugh all the way to the bank. Best of both worlds.
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Fbbbt if your caster is taking any meaningful damage then you made the mistake of not playing Vlad2
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fnordcircle posted:Butcher getting tough was like Christmas. I was surprised when I noticed Siege getting it too. Possibly because he survived a near-bisection at the hands of the Butcher (where the gently caress is Siege 2 PP?)
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gannyGrabber posted:Fbbbt if your caster is taking any meaningful damage then you made the mistake of not playing Vlad2 Vlad2's my favorite so I can definitely get behind this. Only caster I've won with so far, but I've been playing with the new toys and leaving the Sorscha's and Butchers for later. Delayed gratification.
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:I keep forgetting to roll tough for all my pigs. Mk3 is such a burden. So far I'm 2 for 3 on tough rolls on Amon. An excellent way of frustrating people!
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fnordcircle posted:I tend to run a lot of doomies, so the tough hate has hurt my feelings. *plays Trolls* Lol
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Fyrbrand posted:*plays Trolls* As someone who'd rather lose a fast game than win a long one, no faction with a 7 fury caster with Starcrossed will ever get my sympathy. edit: omg 8 *dies* fnordcircle fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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fnordcircle posted:As someone who'd rather lose a fast game than win a long one, no faction with a 7 fury caster with Starcrossed will ever get my sympathy. She got bumped to 8 fury! Even better!
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Ysera posted:She got bumped to 8 fury! Even better! I had her for a while and another one of my crew (squad) did too so after a while we decided to shelve her and I honestly can't remember if she was 7 or 8 in Mk2.
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Thought on what to add in week 2 to a Ret Journeyman army? Options: Aspis - Doesn't seem to really bring anything, since I'm not too worried about being shot off the board in week 2. The upside is that's 4 more points for next week, I guess. Chimera - Thus far my main chimera action has been as an arcnode, but Heleyna has poo poo she'd like to arc, so a second arcnode isn't necessarily bad. Gorgon - Polarity cannon seems like it could be useful with Heleyna's yoyo ability Griffon - I've managed to get decent damage in with the one in the battlebox primarily due to getting the charge in. I could see another working out given the very limited choices. Thoughts?
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Are you and/or Susan Cog people of import somehow? I've had a good experience with exactly two people that I've met that I know are Cog players in the Portland local area, and the rest have been, at best, pure rules lawyering, netlisty, unfun power gaming shitlords. Lucas, the PG from Salem and JC, the skorne Mexican guy from Portland are the two stand out folks. I'm pretty sure aside from JC and Lucas most Cog guys are disinvited from Nexus games for their behavior. I don't bring this up to paint the group whole cloth as shitlords, but to try to find out if we just met the worst of the bunch and/or find out where the chill guys are. We've got 34 or 35 people participating in our journeyman league right now, and I can think of 5 or 6 that are interested in moving up to steamroller level play. If there was a cool guys club of chill cog dudes that weren't the righteous assholes, I think there could be some interest in trying to build some bridges.
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koreban posted:pure rules lawyering, netlisty, unfun power gaming oh come on
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Magres posted:hey guys who's ready for our first casual vs competitive pissing contest in the new thread Hold on, gotta get my composition scoring sheet and netlist database pulled up here. Alright lets get neck beardy.
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Magres posted:hey guys who's ready for our first casual vs competitive pissing contest in the new thread We made it at least 10 pages 
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I netlisted the Texicon champion Pissing Contest list, i'm ready to fuckin go
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S.J. posted:oh come on One guy introduced a new player to the game by bottom of turn 1 assassination after telling him everyone just runs forward turn 1. Another guy dropped Denny + banes into a guy playing his first non-battlebox game. The PG from a shop in Vancouver played pre-errata Hayley2 into literally everyone. All of this while we were maybe 3 weeks into trying to get introduced to the game, inviting Cog guys to help demo it for us. Our current PG was really excited about the game and had played for maybe 3 months at that point, mostly against his brother. He invited them hoping that as more knowledgeable players they could teach interested players the game. The final straw was when we spoke with one of the older guys about maybe teaching people by giving them an idea of what might happen or pull a few punches so that the new guys could roll a die or two before blowing them off the table. His response was "Page 5." The store manager told them they weren't going to be welcome back. The PG from the Vancouver store got reported to Hungerford and last I heard from Lucas was removed from the PG program. I ended up not picking up the game again for over a year, and even now I hate playing steamroller. I'm trying to work my way up to comfort with the format. I've mentioned this story or significant parts of it in the mk2 thread. This was my shop's and my own personal experience with Cog people. I was surprised when I saw the link posted to their forum here because this is generally a pretty chill group and that just wasn't the experience I knew based on past encounters with them.
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eskimaux posted:Hey, really new WMH player here. I'm starting a Journeyman league (as Minions and Barnabas like the 2 guys earlier!). I've been planning my list progression but would appreciate any advice/criticism. Bear in mind I have very little idea what I'm doing... I see a few things I would change here. First I like the spitter but I would switch around when you buy him. I wouldn't take Targ this early in the game either. He does work nicely with the Spitter but he is better off as a later purchase if you really want to use him. Barney doesn't have a lot of spells but an amphibious unit should be your top purchase. Min gators is 11 points which leaves you with 4 to buy a different solo I would recommend Saxon Orik primarily because he has an ability to give your gators pathfinder. Another option which could be good is Victor Pendrake. Just be aware that Victor will not work with Saxon because he hates him. If you get Victor or Saxon having Alten as well will be overkill (there is a certain amount of overlap in their roles). I am not a fan of the Trawler so this may be influencing my judgment but for his cost you can get Lanyssa Ryssyl or a Gremlin Swarm both of which will cause a lot more annoyance. Lanyssa will die to a stiff breeze but Hunters Mark and Winter Storm are both really great spells. The Gremlin Swarm is a bit of a bastard move at low points level if your opponent is lacking a magical attack. None of your other choices is bad, you are somewhat disadvantaged until you get rid of the Boneswarm as it didn't really get much better like the other beasts between mk2-3. Worse it really wants units to munch on to get mileage out of its abilities. If you are set on the Spitter as your first (giant acid spitting turtles are cool) buy I would at least make sure your next purchase is a unit. As a new player be aware some of those models are somewhat tricky to really maximise the benefit from. The only model on your list I don't like is the Trawler. Your main issue will be that you lack volume of attacks and bodies to screen. To give you an idea this is a 75 point list I wrote for Barney the other day. Bloody Barnabas - WB: +28 - Blackhide Wrastler - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Ironback Spitter - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12) - Ironback Spitter - PC: 15 - Bull Snapper - PC: 5 Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 3 Saxon Orrik - PC: 4 Bog Trog Ambushers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10 Croak Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 17 Gatorman Posse - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18 Hoboskins fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Oh dear. My FLGS is cutting prices 15% accross the board (save for the MK3 stuff, which is just 10%) in celebration of our crushing victory against Ze Germans. Dissuade me from purchasing Behemoth, goons, please!
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Iceclaw posted:Oh dear. My FLGS is cutting prices accross the board (save for the MK3 stuff, which is just 10%) in celebration of our crushing victory against Ze Germans. Dissuade me from purchasing Behemoth, goons, please! As a Cygnar player, I find Behemoth to be overpowered. Furthermore, 
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Luebbi posted:As a Cygnar player, I find Behemoth to be overpowered. Furthermore, I asked for dissuasion, not temptation, goddammit!
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Iceclaw posted:Oh dear. My FLGS is cutting prices 15% accross the board (save for the MK3 stuff, which is just 10%) in celebration of our crushing victory against Ze Germans. Dissuade me from purchasing Behemoth, goons, please! Get behemoth, run him on MAH BOI Vlad2 and get those delicious hand of fate'd fully boosted bombards. Then when it's melee time throw up assail and get to work! Seriously though get behemoth he's hella rad Buy iiiiit Also the best thing about behemoth is he can 1-round other behemoths.
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Don't buy Behemoth. But an Extreme Juggernaut and make an Extremoth.
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koreban posted:One guy introduced a new player to the game by bottom of turn 1 assassination after telling him everyone just runs forward turn 1. Another guy dropped Denny + banes into a guy playing his first non-battlebox game. The PG from a shop in Vancouver played pre-errata Hayley2 into literally everyone. Right. If they're loving assholes, just call them that. 
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S.J. posted:Right. If they're loving assholes, just call them that. Indeed. Demanding to play by the rules doesn't make you an rear end in a top hat. Nice people can be strict on rules. Playing a netlist doesn't make you an rear end in a top hat. Nice people can play netlists. Being competitive doesn't make you an rear end in a top hat. Nice people can be competitive. Being an rear end in a top hat makes you an rear end in a top hat. You can give takebacks, play goofy lists, not care who wins, and still be a loving rear end in a top hat.
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Iron Crowned posted:What the gently caress are Cog People? Look like cog, talk like people.
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I'm going to all Battle Box event tomorrow. The format is each round is an hour and you play as many BB games as you can to determine the winner, with emphasis on not dunking on new players mind you. You can swap out for different Battle Boxes between rounds so it will be nice to get a feel for Magnus, Maddox, and Barnabus, maybe the Skorne one if I have time to assemble it. There is also an SR going on but man, I just don't have the stomach for competitive play right now.Iron Crowned posted:What the gently caress are Cog People? Oh my god, you can't just go around calling them Cog People. Its Convergence of Cyriss. Jeez.
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