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Yeah, and either Phi or Sigma has SHIFTed in from a timeline where she voted the opposite and then forgotten about that themselves, which leads to them wasting all their time having slapfights about that instead of thinking it through.
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dmboogie posted:I don't think anyone's surprised by the outcome of this. And here I thought that Dio didn't give a gently caress! (please don't hurt me for my bad pun)
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How does one half-gently caress. Are they counting 'fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu--'?
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voltcatfish posted:Phi has said gently caress!? Iirc it was when she drop kicked Delta in one of her only lines in the last like 1/4 of the game
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The thing I didn't like about Delta reveal was why didn't anyone include him in the math for killing 4 vs 3 but I guess mind hacking protected him most of the time. Oh I guess it's because nobody in the other teams ever knew about Sean until the end. What about Mira and Eric then? Rascyc fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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exploding mummy posted:Mira quite literally states why she's in the game. She's serving as the pirahna in the tank full of koi, basically serving as a mechanism to agitate the other teams. That gets a big 'ol raised-brow "Really?" from me. Delta grabbed up a serial killer and her devoted/dumb lover to throw a bunch of chaos into his carefully orchestrated plan? He didn't need an unreliable serial killer if he wanted to off some people in some timelines. And robot-head Sean busts her out of max-sec prison and they go back in time to atone for her sins, because Mira suddenly found a conscience? That's really stretching it. It's ok though, I still liked the story, but Mira and Eric didn't fit. If they never existed it wouldn't have changed anything, which you can't say about the rest of the cast. Also, I didn't realize everybody got new files after the game ended. Shoulda told me, game! I even completed every side-branch just in case it unlocked something.
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i just wanna take this time to point out the first game uchikoshi worked on
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I want to play unknown erotic visual novel
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I want to know what it is!!!
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he made a kamaitachi game??
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Mira's more of a threat to D team though. C team did just fine killing each other by themselves. Though I guess her death makes Eric the piranha.
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Cake Attack posted:I want to play unknown erotic visual novel voltcatfish posted:I want to know what it is!!! surprise it's also pepsiman
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Shear Modulus posted:Iirc it was when she drop kicked Delta in one of her only lines in the last like 1/4 of the game Yeup. 
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He talked about Pepsiman in an interview in a book I have (which I only bought because it also had an interview with ZUN; it was some Kickstarter thing about interviewing famous Japanese game developers). As I recall, he went to trade school to learn to be a 3D modeler, but once he started actually working on games he found he was more interested in writing. Edit: Okay, I remembered it wrong. He dropped out of college and then went to a "game design" school that gave him a brief overview of everything. He got hired as a 3D modeler for Pepsiman, and then his boss suddenly asked him to write a game because "hey, you can do a little bit of everything, right?" And he only wrote love stories at first because he was told that that was what sold. But he would have preferred to write sci-fi. He insists that he's really not that into Back to the Future, honest. The "unknown erotic visual novel" is something he deliberately left his name off of, and at the time of the interview he claims he actually forgot the title. Reading through this, I feel like the wikipedia list was just taken directly from this book. Edit2: Remember11's ending was bad because he and the director each had strong opinions on how it should end, and ultimately they just split the difference Edit3: Uchikoshi hasn't had a pleasant dream since he was a teenager, only nightmares, and often wakes up screaming. He rather enjoys this and uses them for inspiration. Uh, okay... Clarste fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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U-DO Burger posted:I'm like 15 hours into this game and I can't shake this bizarre suspicion that Sigma and Diana are somehow Phi's parents, even though that makes literally no sense. The conversations they have just give me that vibe. Also the topic of Phi's parentage came up multiple times, so surely that's finally going to be addressed at some point. I imagine the real explanation will be far dumber. lmao
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There's no way that's a real unspoiled post lmao
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I mean unpredictability isn't as much of a problem when your plan spans every possible timeline.
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Rascyc posted:There's no way that's a real unspoiled post lmao It could be a wise guy trying to look clever but I choose to believe
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To be fair Diana being Phi's mom is foreshadowed as poo poo from minute one once you notice Phi's glaring red eyebrows, which she never had before.
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flatluigi posted:i just wanna take this time to point out the first game uchikoshi worked on Oh poo poo. I wonder which scenario he wrote for Linear Bounded Phenogram. Edit: Oh poo poo, Naotaka Hayashi helped write Remember 11. 
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AlternateNu posted:Oh poo poo. I wonder which scenario he wrote for Linear Bounded Phenogram. Apparently it was "Three Contrapasso about the Abduction".
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The last page of this thread convinced me to finally charge my PSP's battery and put in that copy of 12Riven I've had on my shelf for years, never opened. The first hour is already as Uchikoshi as gently caress.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:To be fair Diana being Phi's mom is foreshadowed as poo poo from minute one once you notice Phi's glaring red eyebrows, which she never had before. Yeah I definitely thought there was more to that fairly early It was more the "fax themselves" that made that post stand out
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It's easily possible to know about the alien fax machine within the first 15 hours. Heck, it was literally the first fragment I chose after the introductory ones, and Zero explains it all in a lot of detail. So while to some people it may have been a late game plot twist that completely changed the nature of everything, to others its existence was practically part of the premise. That's the nature of playing a game like this. Edit: 15 hours is pretty long for a game this short anyway. Clarste fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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Clarste posted:It's easily possible to know about the alien fax machine within the first 15 hours. Heck, it was literally the first fragment I chose after the introductory ones. So while to some people it may have been a late game plot twist that completely changed the nature of everything, to others its existence was practically part of the premise. That's the nature of playing a game like this. True, it's like how in VLR literally the first route I did had Phi and Sigma explicitly acknowledge that they were jumping timelines.
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orenronen posted:The last page of this thread convinced me to finally charge my PSP's battery and put in that copy of 12Riven I've had on my shelf for years, never opened. Be sure to let this or the VN thread how it goes; I got the PC version in Infinity Plus back in the day and likewise never tried it. I remember everyone being very dismissive of it compared to the other games for some reason?
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flatluigi posted:There's basically a zero percent chance of the infinity games ever getting rereleased, right? In Japanese they seem to get rereleased every couple of years or so for different platforms. In Engish only Ever17 was ever released and the rights are in an enormous mess, so it seems unlikely.
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My favorite part of the game was near the end where I told Eric that Gab was Zero and started laughing hysterically when he shot literally everyone but Gab Then I went  when I realized the implication of the extra gunshot
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Sigma is awfully useless in this game. gently caress up with the button in the healing room, killing Phi is needed for the true ending and creating the big bad. actually, D team are losers
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NRVNQSR posted:In Japanese they seem to get rereleased every couple of years or so for different platforms. The English translation for e17 also had a couple glaring mistranslations, including one that actually fucks up an entire major twist. Those got fixed by fans though.
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Tired Moritz posted:Sigma is awfully useless in this game. gently caress up with the button in the healing room, killing Phi is needed for the true ending and creating the big bad.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:The English translation for e17 also had a couple glaring mistranslations Kidink?
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kirbysuperstar posted:Yeup. 
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NextTime000 posted:I loved that part, everybody is still calmly talking or are so shocked they are paralyzed or something while Delta is talking about his ＭＩＮＤ ＨＡＣＫＩＮＧ powers (while still holding the shotgun I think), then Phi just busts out "gently caress THIS, gently caress YOU!" and kicks him in the face the complaint that Phi doesn't have enough input / lines / anything to do in the last quarter of the game is valid, i think. but goddamn this one bit she gets is good.
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I thought that nothing in the game would get more badass than Firefighter Carlos showing up to save the day then I got to "ARRRRGH gently caress YOU YOU GODDAMN OLD MAN"
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orenronen posted:- I entered the twins birthday password in the Japanese date order (20291116) and it worked. I wonder if both orders work in both versions. I just went ahead and tested this; both orders work in the US Vita version. dmboogie posted:I don't think anyone's surprised by the outcome of this. Dio gave almost 40 fucks. That's nearly as many as four 10s. And that's terrible. 
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