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4001 AD Shadowman is the first Shadowman book (outside of the Ninjak arc) that I've really loved. I think this should just be the Shadowman going forward. I'm gonna be sad when 4001 AD ends and this version goes away.
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X-O posted:4001 AD Shadowman is the first Shadowman book (outside of the Ninjak arc) that I've really loved. I think this should just be the Shadowman going forward. I'm gonna be sad when 4001 AD ends and this version goes away. I don't think it is going anywhere. There are too many loose ends in the new Shadowman for them to leave them dangling forever. My guess is that Rai, the 4001AD Bloodshot, warmother, Rai, Shadowman and maybe another Rai character are going to form a team book. Maybe theyll fight the antagonist in the Shadowman book.
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Jul 7, 2016 03:44
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I concur with 4001 A.D. Shadowman being one of the best iterations of the character. The only semi-disappointing issue of 4001 A.D. this summer has been the Bloodshot tie-in, and even that had a cool road trip sequence. Valiant's putting Rebirth and Civil War II to shame over in their corner of the comics market.
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Jul 7, 2016 05:56
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When's the Acclaim version of Shadowman coming back?
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Jul 7, 2016 07:06
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Valiant is putting Marvel and DC to shame when it comes to Harvey nominations as well. And Dark Horse, Image, Boom and IDW... combined. Over twice the nominations from last year. Some categories they have five out of six nominations. We know they tend to skew above average when paying their talent, so that combined with having really good books means lots of Harvey nominations.
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Jul 7, 2016 14:09
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Rusty Kettle posted:Valiant is putting Marvel and DC to shame when it comes to Harvey nominations as well. And Dark Horse, Image, Boom and IDW... combined. Harvey nominations are meaningless.
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Jul 7, 2016 14:43
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Endless Mike posted:Harvey nominations are meaningless. I haven't heard this. Other than the various reasons all awards are meaningless, what is up with the Harveys? The nominations and votes are cast by writers, artists, etc, so it very well could just be a popularity contest in how a publisher treats their talent, and not be based on the actual work.
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Jul 7, 2016 14:48
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The short version is that virtually anyone associated with a comic company is able to submit nominations, so the companies "encourage" their workers to nominate their books, and for sake of fairness there's little to no editing done by the Harvey committee after the fact, instead just picking whatever garnered the most nominations. This is how NASCAR Heroes #5 ends up on the "Best Single Issue" list or Chip Zdarsky ends up winning the Special Award for Humor for Sex Criminals without Matt Fraction (where he was up against James Asmus, Fred Van Lente, and James Asmus & Fred Van Lente from Valiant, incidentally).
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Endless Mike posted:The short version is that virtually anyone associated with a comic company is able to submit nominations, so the companies "encourage" their workers to nominate their books, and for sake of fairness there's little to no editing done by the Harvey committee after the fact, instead just picking whatever garnered the most nominations. Makes sense. Though for all I know NASCAR heroes could be good.  It is interesting that the bigger guys, who employ more talent, don't make a harder push. Why wouldn't Image rally their talent more?
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Jul 7, 2016 16:28
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Because the Harvey Awards mean nothing.
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X-O posted:Because the Harvey Awards mean nothing. Marvel and DC probably just don't really care enough because Harvey Awards mean nothing.
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Jul 7, 2016 16:40
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That's a shame. Too bad it's the best comics has at the moment as far as a sticker that proves that the product is good. When i convinced a co-worker to try Valiant, he requested "whichever one won the most awards". I gave him Divinity.
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Jul 7, 2016 16:47
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Rusty Kettle posted:That's a shame. Too bad it's the best comics has at the moment as far as a sticker that proves that the product is good. When i convinced a co-worker to try Valiant, he requested "whichever one won the most awards". I gave him Divinity. Look for this quality seal: 
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That's a good sticker. There are no good Valiant podcasts, despite there being lots to talk about. The only one I like is VCR, but that is only because of the Canadian. They are all just recorded Skype conversations. They don't use cameras so there is lots of pauses where people are afraid to talk over each other. It makes me really appreciate podcasts that use a camera. It is important to signal that you have something to say, that you are done talking and need your cohosts to step in or that your partner needs to wrap it up. There is minimal editing, no format, and off topic rant fests by old angry men. Awful sound quality because no one has a decent mic and records their own tracks. Everyone sounds either angry or bored. I thought board game podcasts were bad, but this is something else. If I could find some folks who have their own decent mics and read (or want to read) Valiant, I would start my own drat podcast. I don't know if I have any sort of charisma, but at least I'd get the technical parts right.
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Rusty Kettle posted:That's a good sticker. I own a microphone! And I read... Ninjak and Bloodshot! That's gotta count for something, right?
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I'm just getting started reading Valiant so you could count on at least one receptive audience member for such a podcast.
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Jul 9, 2016 15:33
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LordPants posted:I own a microphone! Spitballing a format, I am thinking it would be something akin to Gilmore Guys (I know I know) where there is a host or two who are big fans who have read everything, and one (or two) absolute newcomers to Valiant. The company prides itself on how each arc is totally accessible to newcomers, so the new person can test that. Hopefully they like it. Each week, we review the week's books and one (or two) older books, starting at whatever book we feel is best for folks new to Valiant. It'll be hard at first, but we'll discuss the books only in the context of the books we covered previously to not spoil anything for the newcomer. Over time, we'll work our way through the tapestry. I like this format because hopefully, if it is good, it is something people will point to when people ask 'Where do I start with Valiant?' In the meantime, I'll contact Valiant to see how easy it would be to get review copies of books. If those other people can do it, why not us?
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Holy poo poo the art on 4001 AD War Mother is gorgeous. I've never heard of Tomas Giorello before but this art with Fred Van Lente writing is a must buy. More here http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/4001-ad-war-mother-1-valiant-entertainment-2016
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Jul 9, 2016 23:19
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Is it bad that I have basically given up reading all comics except for Valiant?
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X-O posted:Holy poo poo the art on 4001 AD War Mother is gorgeous. I've never heard of Tomas Giorello before but this art with Fred Van Lente writing is a must buy. This looks fantastic, I'm excited.
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bobkatt013 posted:Is it bad that I have basically given up reading all comics except for Valiant? Seems like a common thing. Personally, I cannot give up my selection of Image series. I don't like the new A&A. Right now, that is the only weak Valiant book on the shelf IMO.
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Oh man, I hope that's not a red herring at the end of Bloodshot Reborn.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:05
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Diamond shorted me all our copies.
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Rhyno posted:Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Diamond shorted me all our copies. Well, if you didn't get to read it and want to know It seems as if Deathmate is actually Kay McHenry, the former Geomancer.
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X-O posted:Well, if you didn't get to read it and want to know It seems as if Deathmate is actually Kay McHenry, the former Geomancer. YES. :fistpump:
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Rusty Kettle posted:Spitballing a format, I am thinking it would be something akin to Gilmore Guys (I know I know) where there is a host or two who are big fans who have read everything, and one (or two) absolute newcomers to Valiant. The company prides itself on how each arc is totally accessible to newcomers, so the new person can test that. Hopefully they like it. I would 100% listen to this podcast. X-O posted:Well, if you didn't get to read it and want to know It seems as if Deathmate is actually Kay McHenry, the former Geomancer. 
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I recently got into these comics but still mostly stick to their collections to save money and since the hardcovers are really nice. But I am starting to get Eternal Warrior monthly and this issue was badass.
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Eternal Warrior can take its sweet drat time when the art/colors are that pretty.
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LordPants posted:I would 100% listen to this podcast. The two big challenges are finding cohosts who meet the criteria and getting Valiant to send review issues. I have you for one of the pros, and an email out to Valiant. We'll see how it shakes out.
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Yeah i am getting divinity and what imperium I dont have.
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Oh man, War Mother was fantastic. I've missed you Van Lente. I'm hoping to see much more of this character.
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Agreed on War Mother, Valiant's kicked off an excellent new character/series to fill the gap between Divinity II and III.
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Space Fish posted:Agreed on War Mother, Valiant's kicked off an excellent new character/series to fill the gap between Divinity II and III. I don't think it's a series. I'm pretty sure it's just a one shot for 4001.
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They left enough dangling threads that I would be surprised if Shadow-woman, Warmother, and Bloodshot's nanites don't get together at some point and fight future evil.
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X-O posted:I don't think it's a series. I'm pretty sure it's just a one shot for 4001. Ah! I mistook it for a fresh #1 and not a tie-in. My bad. Valiant seems to like teasing War Mother's continued involvement in some forthcoming futuristic series, so I'll look forward to that whenever it's out.
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Hot tip: I got to read an uncolored copy of Generation Zero #1 and it's pretty great. The psiots are back in style!
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Space Fish posted:Hot tip: I got to read an uncolored copy of Generation Zero #1 and it's pretty great. The psiots are back in style!
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4001 A.D. ends this week, ahhhh! Satisfying event so far, I just hope Valiant can stick the landing.
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