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Conskill
May 7, 2007

I got an 'F' in Geometry.

Potential BFF posted:

Here is a nice general skill setup that hits all the right notes and is also an image for convenience.



I like it, though one part provokes a question. Why defense on the Lt. Cmd. tactical track instead of accuracy? I don't know the numbers well enough to judge.

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Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Accuracy was worthwhile when PvP was a thing. It's near pointless in PvE. HP sponges don't dodge, and the few NPC ships that can dodge are frigates that go down to one or two beam hits anyway.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

Conskill posted:

I like it, though one part provokes a question. Why defense on the Lt. Cmd. tactical track instead of accuracy? I don't know the numbers well enough to judge.

PVE ships have low defense so accuracy is wasted and the bonus crit from accuracy rollovers isn't significant. The defense is there to proc Reciprocity and hit 15 points assigned to the tac tree for the energy weapon crit bonus.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


I feel like it should just choose Iconian Marks for me in these boxes

And maybe the last box could have the 4-piece set too

TIA

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Conskill posted:

I like it, though one part provokes a question. Why defense on the Lt. Cmd. tactical track instead of accuracy? I don't know the numbers well enough to judge.
On top of the answers given, accuracy above 100% gets turned into extra damage - unless you're running BFaW which sets your accuracy to 100% no matter what it was before and then ignores any rollover. Since the current meta involves keeping BFaW up as often as possible it's a fairly useless stat.

Argentic
Apr 21, 2007

While we're on the subject of skills and such, what are the recommended specializations / specialization unlocks now? The only things I know are "get Pedal to the Metal" and "never use Command."

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
Meh, I like command. Fun to drop in a big battle cruiser every 5 minutes to assist (one that actually stays forever). As someone with not a lot of starship traits I use what I've got.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Get Pedal to the Metal if you're flying a Pilot ship, but if you're in a whale and have enough good traits it's actually one of the better ones to drop. Basically if you're an Escort - Intel and Pilot. If you're in a Cruiser or Carrier - Intel and Strategist. Those are the big three Specs, though Commando is pretty good if you do shitloads of ground content. Command is worthless and I don't think anyone has given Temp Operative a real shot yet.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Temporal Agent has the thing that makes singularities home in on dudes, which is sort of tempting me to play this shitpile again.

I probably would if they made it so you could use the grav well and tyken's rift doffs at the same time, for maximum singularity gangbang.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Psycho Landlord posted:

Get Pedal to the Metal if you're flying a Pilot ship, but if you're in a whale and have enough good traits it's actually one of the better ones to drop

Ok, I have never understood this recommendation. If anything it seems like you'd want it in a slow, fat piece of poo poo and want to avoid it in an escort. I fly a JHSS almost exclusively, because I'm really lazy, but it clearly fits that escort requirement.

Lets take a look at my movement figures in a typical firefight... I just hopped into a quick fleet alert to take a screenshot:



And then every 30 seconds when I pop off APO?



Now explain to me how the gently caress you're supposed to keep that at full throttle and not cut off your own firing arcs constantly by wildly flying out of control with anything but a turret boat.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

The Bug can turn well enough and has low enough inertia that even at that kind of speed it can stay in beam range and dive through groups effectively, and if you're only firing at one small target there's no reason to pop APO. Larger ships with greater inertia tend to drift out of fights if the player hits APO and isn't great at accounting for that inertia, unless they throttle down, which kills the Pedal bonus.

Now, if you're using cannons on that Bug because of the trait, then that's different, but given how much we've been making GBS threads on cannons constantly I figure that's a little outside the scope of "hey new-ish guy here's where this trait is good."

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Psycho Landlord posted:

The Bug can turn well enough and has low enough inertia that even at that kind of speed it can stay in beam range and dive through groups effectively, and if you're only firing at one small target there's no reason to pop APO. Larger ships with greater inertia tend to drift out of fights if the player hits APO and isn't great at accounting for that inertia, unless they throttle down, which kills the Pedal bonus.

Now, if you're using cannons on that Bug because of the trait, then that's different, but given how much we've been making GBS threads on cannons constantly I figure that's a little outside the scope of "hey new-ish guy here's where this trait is good."

lol i heard u were wrong

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Tests inconclusive. We require a larger focus group. Everyone buy bugs and Pilotscorts and flood the PvP queues.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


As a note for folks who might actually be leveling TOS characters: you can buy manuals for the TOS boff skill versions and and buy TOS boffs in the old version of earth spacedock. You absolutely should send your character some cash and stock up on manuals since they're all bind to character, and once you get to the future you can't go back and buy them anymore.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

g0del posted:

It's good. If you want a more generalist/less glass-cannon skill set, drop the 6 ranks in admiral tactical and fill out some of the science/eng commander level skills - won't affect your DPS much, and will increase survival.


g0del posted:

If you're going to add it to the article, I guess I should explain my reasoning. You drop the tac readiness skills because they're a trap - even fully filled out they don't drop recharge time low enough to be useful. You still need the same doffs/traits/A2B/whatever to get to the global cooldown with or without them. You drop the coordination protocols because pets got heavily nerfed awhile back, and so adding a bit more damage/survivability to them doesn't help that much. The only reason to spend those 6 points is to unlock the tac ultimate, but the tac ultimate is a clicky power with a long cooldown. Useful against gates in ISA and the crystalline entity, but not generally useful for normal play.

And for all the new people coming back - cryptic actually worked really hard to make the skill explanations accurate. If the tooltip says it adds 15% accuracy, it really does.

Finally, for anyone who wants to come up with their own skill distribution, remember that the first skill in a line has the largest effect. Behind the scenes skills are on a 0-100 scale and the first point usually gives you 50 in the skill, with the second giving you 80 and the final one 100. If you can't figure out where to stick a skill point, starting a new chain is more effective than finishing one you've already started.


If anyone finds this useful, I accept payment in catfish sammiches and in lockbox ships donated to new players.

Potential BFF posted:

Here is a nice general skill setup that hits all the right notes and is also an image for convenience.




Potential BFF posted:

PVE ships have low defense so accuracy is wasted and the bonus crit from accuracy rollovers isn't significant. The defense is there to proc Reciprocity and hit 15 points assigned to the tac tree for the energy weapon crit bonus.

Quoting all of this to assure you that I'll add it to the page once I get back from the shops.

Potential BFF that is a good point on Reciprocity - I don't have it and don't think of it much.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Temporal probe psa: they show up as neutral NPCs on your minimap, out to like 85 meters or so. Check that when searching for them.

You now have no excuse for bitching about the random placement.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Skill guide updated with advice from G0del and Potential BFF. Mondian, I hope your reward splits three ways. :)

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I'm going to avoid spending any dil or marks on reputation gear until I finish the unlock to get automatic mk xiii gear. Instead, in the meantime, I'm gonna use both quantum phase sets once I can get them-- those should adequately on a Vengeance, especially once upgraded.

After that, iconian set as usual, etc.

I will drop some dosh on fleet phaser consoles and a fleet warp core though. Gotta have amp and crit, especially on a fed.

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

You know how the description of the TOS ships says that you can use their skins on the 26th century versions? It also works the other way around - you can use the 26th century skins on the TOS ships while leveling.

Mormon Star Wars fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Jul 9, 2016

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.
Some poor bastard accidentally sold his Konnie for 32.9 million instead of 329 Million. Sadly, I wasn't the one who grabbed it.

People really need to learn to count their zeroes. (also clicking off the exchange screen adds commas to the number)

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
That sort of thing happens occasionally but we're hearing about it a lot more recently.

Probably someone drunk because that's how I did it when I sold a tholian orb weaver a few years back for some joke price on the exchange.

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.
I just noticed, they 'fixed' the issue of your BOFFs doing the same beam out animation as you (Tapping combadge/wrist communicator)

Only took them 6 years.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Tuskin38 posted:

I just noticed, they 'fixed' the issue of your BOFFs doing the same beam out animation as you (Tapping combadge/wrist communicator)

Only took them 6 years.

My Federation captain has started tapping his wrist.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
Nvm

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.

SKY COQ posted:

My Federation captain has started tapping his wrist.

I get the Combadge animation, but it plays the Romulan wrist sound.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Tuskin38 posted:

I get the Combadge animation, but it plays the Romulan wrist sound.

Oh yeah actually it's that, also my warp out trails have gone green.

Meanwhile my Temporal Agent got congratulated on a promotion by Quinn, but the Klingon audio played.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


The warp trails on my Fed ships have been inexplicably green for like six months now

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


FuturePastNow posted:

The warp trails on my Fed ships have been inexplicably green for like six months now

The trails on my Command Battlecruiser do that randomly.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?





I foresee some issues with any attempts to refit the Vengeance in the near future :v:

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Psycho Landlord posted:





I foresee some issues with any attempts to refit the Vengeance in the near future :v:

It's a Kelvin ship, they get built in gravity wells and can land underwater. You'll just have to put it down next to Starfleet Academy.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
To the person who was trying to transfer UI settings using console commands I have no idea if this will solve your problem, but when I did it the other day I used the menu options and they worked.

Try escape - options - HUD and using those buttons right down the bottom to save UI on your main and load UI on your temporal agent alt.

It worked for me the other day, hope it works for you :shrug:

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

DancingShade posted:

To the person who was trying to transfer UI settings using console commands I have no idea if this will solve your problem, but when I did it the other day I used the menu options and they worked.

Try escape - options - HUD and using those buttons right down the bottom to save UI on your main and load UI on your temporal agent alt.

It worked for me the other day, hope it works for you :shrug:

Thanks, will give it a shot when I get home.

For those catching up, I did a reinstall around a month or so before AoY hit and amazingly the game kept the spacebar macros on all of my characters, even without the .txt file saved to the install folder. On my new character though I am totally unable to set it up. I've followed the wiki guide from scratch and it just fails to work.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax

SKY COQ posted:

Thanks, will give it a shot when I get home.

For those catching up, I did a reinstall around a month or so before AoY hit and amazingly the game kept the spacebar macros on all of my characters, even without the .txt file saved to the install folder. On my new character though I am totally unable to set it up. I've followed the wiki guide from scratch and it just fails to work.

Yea I noticed the same thing on my 23rd C fed, all my old characters work fine but putting in the /bind... command to activate the macro on the new one seems to do nothing. (I didnt do a reinstall with mine though, just copied the game back over to my SSD from the storage drive I had it on)

Also I'm saddened that my old headed KDF gorn I've always kept will shortly be a lot less unique.

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Jul 10, 2016

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Good news! The TOS style rubber mask gorn head is a new model and separate from the old horrible launch gorn model, so you're still unique there.

Well not that unique since my oldest klank is one too but hey. :toot:

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax
The crappy old head is great, looks like a well educated crocodile.

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jul 10, 2016

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Dr. Lariat posted:

The crappy old head is great, looks like a well educated crocodile.

I never played during the Delta Recruit event, how does it work when this Temporal Agent ends? I know new characters won't be Temporal Recruits but will character made during the event lose access to the progression stuff?

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax
My loose understanding is you have to finish the 23rd century arc with the new character (before some nebulous future date) to get the stuff. I started last night and despite the above key bind issue it's going pretty fast. I hate everything on the ground in the game but you're so early level its dead simple.

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Jul 10, 2016

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Dr. Lariat posted:

Yea I noticed the same thing on my 23rd C fed, all my old characters work fine but putting in the /bind... command to activate the macro on the new one seems to do nothing. (I didnt do a reinstall with mine though, just copied the game back over to my SSD from the storage drive I had it on)

Also I'm saddened that my old headed KDF gorn I've always kept will shortly be a lot less unique.

Weird. Save UI/Load UI from the settings menu worked, but it didn't actually load my Fed UI on my Temporal Agent.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Playing this again after a four year absence and space stuff is still amazing fun and ground stuff is still garbage.

Knowing how to autofire this time round is making it a much better experience though.

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Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...
So, after mucking about with them for a few days, what are people's opinions on the Temporal bridge officer powers?
(If you didn't see it, you can get a specialization for the Temporal line from one of the new missions.)

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