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Don't do that then I guess? There is so much stuff to do that you don't really have to gently caress with higher level stuff unless you are looking for ways not to have fun. The byways ghouls are a great example...I came across them while exploring PoIs at level 12. I ran away and came back at level 23 and did the quest, having done a dozen other ones in the meantime. Maybe not every game intends to be broken.
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Xander77 posted:I've often killed enemies 10 levels higher, but it was always an unrewarding chore. I think it's fun once you get archgriffin decoction, so that it doesn't take half an hour to whittle it down, but when do you kill your first archgriffin? I remember the level 35 contract is doable around level 25. Just finished B&W. What a great story. People seem to prefer HoS ITT, but Regis was one of my favorite characters in the books, and he was characterized perfectly. However, my house was bugged so I couldn't hang up my van Rogh or a bunch of my nicest non-witcher armor, so 0/10, I demand a refund.
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Jack of Hearts posted:Just finished B&W. What a great story. People seem to prefer HoS ITT, but Regis was one of my favorite characters in the books, and he was characterized perfectly. I liked hanging out with Shani and her scenes(beyond the scenes in the boat  ), but overall I found Heart of Stone to be kinda dull. I'd say it was pretty okay. It did have some neat bits, but blah with Olgierd, and what a way to make a kinda cool evil ghost dude become a joke by the end.I had just come off the pretty amazing gut-punch of the vanilla ending, though, so that may have colored my expectations. Drifter fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Russad posted:I don't really see how that's relevant, when the quests are generally interesting and worth doing anyway? I'm sure there are a few, but I can't think of a single quest in my 140+ hours with the game where I've thought "wow, can't believe I wasted my time doing that". There's typically some exploration, or an interesting monster to fight, or a neat bit of story. I've never finished a quest and thought "I wish that gave me more XP". There's a limit to the number of skills you can equip anyway, so unless you're running mods, there's a soft cap on how much levels get you anyway. Except a lot of quests, as I said in the part of my post you snipped out, are basically the same. Here's one I just did this morning: while trying to clean up all the map question marks in Velen, I cleared out a settlement and a quest marker came up. Woman's husband was missing, he had last been seen setting traps. I went 100 feet or meters or whatever, killed the wild dogs near the body of the dead husband, inspected husband to have Geralt say "yup, dogs got him", and went back. I got to refuse the money, which I did not because I thought Geralt did a bad job but because the sidequest was  Or a few days ago: I stumbled into a bookshop and the owner said that someone left a note for me. I wonder who it could be? Searched the books and eventually found it signed by someone I hadn't heard of, apparently he was in the first game. They may as well leave out quests like this because I thought maybe it was Iorveth or Saskia or some other random NPC I may have remembered from the Witcher game that people actually played. Or the sidequest where you agree to help repair religious totems and run across a bunch of /r/atheism rejects. Everyone says "the sidequests are awesome, like Trollolo  " but most aren't. The spreadsheet someone posted earlier has 200 secondary quests, witcher contracts, and treasure hunts, how many do you actually remember?
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monster on a stick posted:Everyone says "the sidequests are awesome, like Trollolo I really regret not having the troll draw his own army insignia. Geralt has all the artistic skill of an epileptic six-year old. 
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Jul 11, 2016 03:16
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Had Dandelion's Blunt Prop Sword equipped for the past hour and a half, not realizing. zzz
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Agree to disagree then. From lamp shading of standard fetch quests (yeah, sure, I'll find your pan, lady), to random moral choices (do I let this tied up dude go or leave him to rot?), to random missing peasants. It didn't feel like filler, it felt like a living, breathing world. Even the witcher gear hunts brought me to areas I probably wouldn't have bothered with on my own, and usually had other stuff in the area worth checking out. I just can't fathom going "a bloo bloo, I got meaningful content but only 2 xp. I got screwed!"
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Drifter posted:I liked hanging out with Shani and her scenes(beyond the scenes in the boat Yeah, I agree. I really hated the part where I had to fight the devil, rob a vault, and party with a ghost. Probably the worst part of the DLC was all the amazingly well done bosses, new areas, and new characters. CDPR really pisses me off sometimes. Not, you loving moron.
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Chuck Finley posted:Yeah, I agree. I really hated the part where I had to fight the devil, rob a vault, and party with a ghost. Probably the worst part of the DLC was all the amazingly well done bosses, new areas, and new characters. CDPR really pisses me off sometimes. This is a cool thread about a great videogame, please do not be so angry. Is there a bbcode for axii?
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I just ignore the XP. Like, that is how I solved the whole XP problem, I just ignored it because it really doesn't matter. The Witcher is not a sand box game and you can't break it open like a sandbox game. It uses XP and levels to guide you and gate you and not as a reward. Like, if the XP system bugs you it is because you want a different game and not because it is inherently bad. It just is not the system you want.
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Russad posted:Agree to disagree then. From lamp shading of standard fetch quests (yeah, sure, I'll find your pan, lady), to random moral choices (do I let this tied up dude go or leave him to rot?), to random missing peasants. It didn't feel like filler, it felt like a living, breathing world. Even the witcher gear hunts brought me to areas I probably wouldn't have bothered with on my own, and usually had other stuff in the area worth checking out. I just can't fathom going "a bloo bloo, I got meaningful content but only 2 xp. I got screwed!" Welcome to videogames where you get experience points for doing things. I get that you think playing the game should be it's own reward but XP has been a thing in RPGs since D&D. I found it annoying in this game because I wanted to level up because of gear requirements and the only choice left at a certain point was having to push the story forward instead of just putzing around and not having to worry about X sidequest going away because of plot progression. monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Jack of Hearts posted:This is a cool thread about a great videogame, please do not be so angry. Is there a bbcode for axii? Will a smiley do? 
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CharlestonJew posted:Holy poo poo Is 254 hours astonishing or something? Because uh, I've got 540.
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monster on a stick posted:Or a few days ago: I stumbled into a bookshop and the owner said that someone left a note for me. I wonder who it could be? Searched the books and eventually found it signed by someone I hadn't heard of, apparently he was in the first game. They may as well leave out quests like this because I thought maybe it was Iorveth or Saskia or some other random NPC I may have remembered from the Witcher game that people actually played. Hey, gently caress you too, buddy. Without W1, you don't get Shani either.
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Jul 11, 2016 04:46
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monster on a stick posted:Here's one I just did this morning: while trying to clean up all the map question marks in Velen, I cleared out a settlement and a quest marker came up. Woman's husband was missing, he had last been seen setting traps. I went 100 feet or meters or whatever, killed the wild dogs near the body of the dead husband, inspected husband to have Geralt say "yup, dogs got him", and went back. I got to refuse the money, which I did not because I thought Geralt did a bad job but because the sidequest was Unless this is a stupid unrelated quest to the one I'm thinking of, you did this one badly wrong. I don't remember anything this pointless.
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Lareine posted:Is 254 hours astonishing or something? Because uh, I've got 540. the number's not too impressive but considering he just started his playthrough a little over 2 weeks ago then yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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Pretty sure everyone's playtime numbers are wrong if they're going off the in-game one. It's been pretty broken since release iirc.
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Jack of Hearts posted:Unless this is a stupid unrelated quest to the one I'm thinking of, you did this one badly wrong. I don't remember anything this pointless. http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Love%27s_Cruel_Snares Or watch an exciting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOOvuPPnZbQ&t=114s. Note you don't actually have to do any tracking, head to the center of the "search circle" and you stumble upon the dog pack with the dead guy right there.
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The in-game playtime tracker has never been correct at any point of the game.jim truds posted:I just ignore the XP. Like, that is how I solved the whole XP problem, I just ignored it because it really doesn't matter. The Witcher is not a sand box game and you can't break it open like a sandbox game. It uses XP and levels to guide you and gate you and not as a reward. Like, if the XP system bugs you it is because you want a different game and not because it is inherently bad. It just is not the system you want. XP systems can be executed well, W3 is not an example of a good one. You break the game by looting superior alchemy recipes from areas the game expects to murder you. Guild Wars 2 has XP gain set to level you up at a consistent, frequent pace with scaling in place if you want to revisit areas and do things you missed out on. You'll get completely destroyed by something eight levels above you but that definitely beats using light attack and rolling away for 20 minutes against a boss immune to bombs and signs because it's a dozen levels higher than geralt.
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Dang, OK, that's so boring I didn't remember it. I think the religious idol one served a game design purpose, because it came so early, and encouraged map exploration beyond the initial path. But that quest sounds exactly like a much better quest in its setup.
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CharlestonJew posted:the number's not too impressive but considering he just started his playthrough a little over 2 weeks ago then yeah, it's pretty crazy. Oh, that's a little bit different. In regards to playtime, I'm using the Steam one. I know that one can be iffy if programs don't completely close but I believe I played around that much.
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It'd be nice if the intro quest for B&W didn't throw you into a fight with a dozen level 35 bandits. Really sucks if you come across it too early.
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Jack of Hearts posted:Dang, OK, that's so boring I didn't remember it. I think the religious idol one served a game design purpose, because it came so early, and encouraged map exploration beyond the initial path. But that quest sounds exactly like a much better quest in its setup. You may not have even done it, since the settlement you have to clean up is just marked with a question on the mao, and only after clearing it do you see a "!" on the minimap. It's pretty easy to stop doing them after a while since most of them are random monster nests or treasures which give you vendor junk. On the idol one, I remember following the suggested path that the game gave me to the third idol, which took me right under a griffon. Since I had just defeated the one in White Harbor I thought it would be a piece of cake, and of course it kicked my newbie rear end.
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Hello should I buy this game? I loved Morrowind/Skyrim, KotOR, Mass Effect, and NWN but hated Dragon Age (all of them) and have never played earlier Witcher games.
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Tequila Sunrise posted:Hello should I buy this game? I loved Morrowind/Skyrim, KotOR, Mass Effect, and NWN but hated Dragon Age (all of them) and have never played earlier Witcher games. Why did you like the Bioware games but hate Dragon Age?
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I have no idea. Couldn't get into the first one and Inquisition was boring as hell to me.
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Witcher 3 is a fantastic game with an excellent story. You might lose a little by not being familiar with the previous games and characters, but I think it should hold its own reasonably well as a standalone iteration. If you didn't like Dragon Age Inquisition's MMO-ishness you may not like the similar hook to W3. It's waaay better though, with far better general gameplay. Dragon Age Inq's mmoishness was more of the collectathon variety while W3's was more just a big gently caress-all open world that was hardcore level-gated with damage sponges. Chuck Finley posted:Yeah, I agree. I really hated the part where I had to fight the devil, rob a vault, and party with a ghost. Probably the worst part of the DLC was all the amazingly well done bosses, new areas, and new characters. CDPR really pisses me off sometimes. So, all those things sound cool on paper, but c'mon, learning about the first spoiler was great while the 'fight' was pretty lame. They built up something dope and then hashakashahashakasha fade-to-black wah wah Olgierd gives you a lovely sword and blah. As for the second one, really? Really? Was it really that good? It was at best slightly amusing when it wasn't boring. And I already told you the scenes with Shani were pretty fun, so that would kinda include your last spoiler to a certain extent. I don't want to post a wall of spoilers breaking down my likes and dislikes of the entire thing, but I said on average it was kinda whatevs. You should relax a bit. Drifter fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Tequila Sunrise posted:I have no idea. Couldn't get into the first one and Inquisition was boring as hell to me. Like Inquisition, W3 is open world and has loads and loads of stuff to do. DA:I had fewer sidequests that were anything more than "fetch quest/kill monster", W3 is generally better about that but if you are a completionist you will burn out because the base game will take 100+ hours to finish. You also get less of a blank slate than Bioware games, Geralt is his own character, and you are going to be slinging swords even if you try for a more magic/herbalist build. I'm still playing and now into Act 3, pacing is off since Act 1 will take you well over 40 hours (since it opens up almost the entire world and all the sidequests), Act 2 is pretty short and Act 3 seems to be pretty short so far. One thing they did Bioware-ish was to give you the opening dungeon and then say "hey you have to go to these three areas to complete thine quest." You may want to buy Witcher 2 when it's on sale, it's cheap enough and will let you know if you like the game's setting.
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Tequila Sunrise posted:Hello should I buy this game? I loved Morrowind/Skyrim, KotOR, Mass Effect, and NWN but hated Dragon Age (all of them) and have never played earlier Witcher games. The thread is full of people calling it the best RPG they've ever played. You might find some gripe with it, but I'd roll those dice. Skipping earlier Witcher games is fine.
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Drifter posted:Witcher 3 is a fantastic game with an excellent story. You might lose a little by not being familiar with the previous games and characters, but I think it should hold its own reasonably well as a standalone iteration. his sword is loving fantastic
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Tequila Sunrise posted:Hello should I buy this game? I loved Morrowind/Skyrim, KotOR, Mass Effect, and NWN but hated Dragon Age (all of them) and have never played earlier Witcher games. Having never played a Witcher game, I watched a Witcher 1 and 2 summary video on YouTube, which really helped me with characters in W3. I recommend it.
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Tequila Sunrise posted:Hello should I buy this game? I loved Morrowind/Skyrim, KotOR, Mass Effect, and NWN but hated Dragon Age (all of them) and have never played earlier Witcher games. Buy it. I liked those same games back in the day and never played Dragon Age. At first I hated TW3 but now I'm a few dozen hours in and hope it never ends.
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monster on a stick posted:Here's one I just did this morning: while trying to clean up all the map question marks in Velen, I cleared out a settlement and a quest marker came up. Woman's husband was missing, he had last been seen setting traps. I went 100 feet or meters or whatever, killed the wild dogs near the body of the dead husband, inspected husband to have Geralt say "yup, dogs got him", and went back. I got to refuse the money, which I did not because I thought Geralt did a bad job but because the sidequest was
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I mean, he was a very unlikable rear end in a top hat from the start and only less hatable because monkey paw wishes are easier to hate.
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That pan quest wasn't even a fetch quest, it was five feet away from the quest giver! That was a little mystery with a callback ti the first game.
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Drifter posted:So, all those things sound cool on paper, but c'mon, learning about the first spoiler was great while the 'fight' was pretty lame. They built up something dope and then hashakashahashakasha fade-to-black wah wah Olgierd gives you a lovely sword and blah. As for the second one, really? Really? Was it really that good? It was at best slightly amusing when it wasn't boring. And I already told you the scenes with Shani were pretty fun, so that would kinda include your last spoiler to a certain extent. Hell yeah it was really that good, just a bit short, in reference to the heist. Also, you have this sick rear end cool investigation into the devil and this guy with a salt circle that final destinations himself right in front of you. Plus, come on, don't tell me you didn't like fighting the toad and the gravekeeper? All those things are  and welcome additions. How can you call a riddle battle with the devil, dull? I admit that Blood and Wines end was a lot more climactic, but god drat, HoS was some good eating. Also, that creepy rear end song was pretty sweet. Plus, you don't always have to save Olgierd.
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