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EminusSleepus posted:meanwhile in procedurally generated NMS and yet it takes 20gb to change a few xml values in each patch of star citizen. Nice.
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peter gabriel posted:yeah that is a flat texture of what is outside the room they are in, it's the same on the stations, you get a flat image overlaid onto the helmet to look like a reflection. It's pretty common in most games to have a baked reflection map, since true reflection is only really used for detailed shots or used with only static objects being reflected or some other caveat. The problem is that usually in other games, it's a blurred map so you can't tell that it's just a static image.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Please - don't even call this bullshit because you can't understand how consolidated financials work. …says the man who can't even explain what others have supposedly done wrong in making their arguments and who has failed repeatedly to actually address the points they've made.
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Iglocska posted:I knew you were full of poo poo, that image is obviously doctored to show SC in a bad light. I tried it too and the results are much more flattering: Results vary with the third term typed, conclusion is the same. 
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Scruffpuff posted:SC died on the vine a long time ago. We're just watching it wither, rot, and remain transfixed waiting for the exact moment it plummets to the ground and splatters in a cloud of maggots and putrescent innards. It's fine.....it's fine! The skin hasn't started to discolor yet. Even if it had it wouldn't still be attached to the vine if it was dead. I don't think you understand plant development. ...... Chris said he was making Wine, so if you think about it, it's just fermenting early meaning we get the wine faster. The extra weight isn't maggots, it may be black and discolored now but It's growing again! ..... The farm went bankrupt and the farmer is in jail for fraud, that just means that one of us can now take care of this precious precious fruit!
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ManofManyAliases posted:Please - don't even call this bullshit because you can't understand how consolidated financials work. BTW - these accounts are abbreviated. Your accountant "friend" should have informed you that you can't make any reasonable or educated guess as to the financial integrity of this one subsidiary based on the audited filing. Uncle Derek owns his own game studio. What do you own? Oh, right. 4K worth of jpegs.
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MedicineHut posted:Yeh, anyways, not sure why the conversation is touching upon PPE when one of the most interesting bits of news in that report (imho) is: Well, yeah. The operational expense for 180 people is not cheap. But, they were still net positive cash flows at the end of the year. That's a huge positive for an entity with 22 mil operational expense. Even then, it gets consolidated to the parent, who's obviously using this entity to offset their tax burden.
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no_recall posted:Uncle Derek owns his own game studio. What do you own? 1 Study does not require consolidated financials.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I'm the community manager who chooses to argue the merits of faith and belief in his lovely project and its founder when facing criticism It's kinda ironic that he's an evangelical Atheist too. Actually buddies with wulfknight (accelerwraith) and was (still is?) in his atheist org.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Did I doubt a little? Sure - It's a crowd-funded game from a new company helmed by a mix of individuals from different walks of life. There's always a tinge of doubt. But, through the course of the last couple of years my observations, information I received from individuals and the interactions from CIG, I do believe the project will eventually succeed. I think anyone spending money on crowdfunding ought to realize that it's a gamble. If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. One thing bro before you go off on an all day delusional rant. "CrowdFunding" is funding a project to get it made, with protections that platforms like indiegogo, kickstarter and gofundme offer. Some are limited, some aren't. Turning into an infinite store on your own website where you never stop selling items despite receiving anywhere from 600%-6000% your budget? The only reason to do that is because people will still buy them for whatever reason You aren't crowdfunding anything. You aren't an entrepreneur that is valiantly striking out against publishers. You are putting more and more money in a project that they have already said is completely funded for literally no reason. Let's just ignore that you said CIG is reinforcing your faith with the information they put out (hint: the reason you keep buying in is you are stupid. Others are desperate, others are sad, others want to be happy, others just want a game, you are like chronically loving stupid)
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no_recall posted:Oh, right. 4K worth of dreams. ftfy
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ManofManyAliases posted:Did I doubt a little? Sure - It's a crowd-funded game from a new company helmed by a mix of individuals from different walks of life. There's always a tinge of doubt. But, through the course of the last couple of years my observations, information I received from individuals and the interactions from CIG, I do believe the project will eventually succeed. I think anyone spending money on crowdfunding ought to realize that it's a gamble. If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. There it is again (bolded points are what I'm emphasizing). This has nothing to do with crowdfunding - it has everything to do with Chris Roberts being an untrustworthy steward of your donation. quote:If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. Yes you can, because "crowdfunding" isn't what made this a gamble. Chris Roberts made it a gamble, and he's why it's in trouble. It's 100% on Chris Roberts - not "crowdfunding", not "a mix of individuals", but pure, distilled Chris Roberts failure. So if this fails, it's not the random whims of crowdfunding fate that had it in for you.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:One thing bro before you go off on an all day delusional rant. The only person that can fix your broken attitude is you.
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Rubberduke posted:What I'm actually hoping for is that people admit they were wrong to trust Well that will never happen. We get the occasional convert here every few CIG fuckups, but the vast majority of the Citizen faithful will probably die still believing in Chris's vision
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ManofManyAliases posted:Well, yeah. The operational expense for 180 people is not cheap. But, they were still net positive cash flows at the end of the year. That's a huge positive for an entity with 22 mil operational expense. Even then, it gets consolidated to the parent, who's obviously using this entity to offset their tax burden. Well you're either very unfunny or a literal moron, my bet is both
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Scruffpuff posted:There it is again (bolded points are what I'm emphasizing). This has nothing to do with crowdfunding - it has everything to do with Chris Roberts being an untrustworthy steward of your donation. And 4 years in - no investigation of any kind. This has something to do with crowdfunding. You'd think someone who raised over 100 mil via crowdfunding and was suspected of operating a scam would at least have an inquiry opened against him and his company . . . Oh, but there aren't any?
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Hope you all have a great day everybody, I have a brunch meeting which means I can't answer all your questions although I do my best!
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Well you're either very unfunny or a literal moron, my bet is both Why would that be? Sorry some here don't understand accrual-based accounting.
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ManofManyAliases posted:The only person that can fix your broken attitude is you. Luckily one of us has $4000 for therapy if the situation arises
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Luckily one of us has $4000 for therapy if the situation arises Stop worrying about my monetary situation. I'm fine. I must have missed the part that said this was a concern thread.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Did I doubt a little? Sure - It's a crowd-funded game from a new company helmed by a mix of individuals from different walks of life. There's always a tinge of doubt. But, through the course of the last couple of years my observations, information I received from individuals and the interactions from CIG, I do believe the project will eventually succeed. I think anyone spending money on crowdfunding ought to realize that it's a gamble. If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. yes but did you send a request to the UK authorities to find out if CiG or F42 was under investigation? Because I did 
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ManofManyAliases posted:Did I doubt a little? Sure - It's a crowd-funded game from a new company helmed by a mix of individuals from different walks of life. There's always a tinge of doubt. But, through the course of the last couple of years my observations, information I received from individuals and the interactions from CIG, I do believe the project will eventually succeed. I think anyone spending money on crowdfunding ought to realize that it's a gamble. If Chris pulls a similar stunt as Keiji (I don't think he will), I can't be mad at myself for willingly and knowingly spending my money on something that wasn't a sure thing. Just so we are clear here: The biggest risk for the SC/SQ42 project has always been that Chris Roberts pulls a "Chris Roberts". And wouldn't you know it - that is exactly what has happened, to the surprise of no one with half a brain or more.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Stop worrying about my monetary situation. I'm fine. I, too, run to the internet to desperately shout how fine I am in various aspects of my life on a daily basis You know because I'm fine I'm fine guys 
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spacetoaster posted:It's kinda ironic that he's an evangelical Atheist too. Actually buddies with wulfknight (accelerwraith) and was (still is?) in his atheist org. Well you see Atheism protects against every mental fallacy, which means every one of his articles of faith are by definition justified by evidence.
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Barn Folk posted:and yet it takes 20gb to change a few xml values in each patch of star citizen. Nice. Code optimization is a stretch goal.
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Scruffpuff posted:There it is again (bolded points are what I'm emphasizing). This has nothing to do with crowdfunding - it has everything to do with Chris Roberts being an untrustworthy steward of your donation. This is still what gets me about the whole thing. Idiots have trusted a man with a long track record of failure with a ton of money. I'm going to put this into a cold, hard reality mode for a moment... PGI have a better track record than Chris Roberts on delivering. loving PGI.
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poo poo I was honestly hoping that MoMA had run away for good this time.
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peter gabriel posted:yeah that is a flat texture of what is outside the room they are in, it's the same on the stations, you get a flat image overlaid onto the helmet to look like a reflection. The problem with trying to make everything to the highest levels of fidelity is: Everything janky or unfidelitious will stand out like a sore thumb.
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Azram Legion posted:Just so we are clear here: The biggest risk for the SC/SQ42 project has always been that Chris Roberts pulls a "Chris Roberts". And wouldn't you know it - that is exactly what has happened, to the surprise of no one with half a brain or more. That's a funny ending you've adopted for this fiction you created. Except, the story hasn't come to an end yet. I must have missed the part where development ended and the game was complete.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Stop worrying about my monetary situation. I'm fine. I must have missed the part that said this was a concern thread. yeah people are worried.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Stop worrying about my monetary situation. I'm fine. I must have missed the part that said this was a concern thread. Rational people do not spend four thousand dollars on a video game
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trucutru posted:yes but did you send a request to the UK authorities to find out if CiG or F42 was under investigation? Because I did
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I think early on people were worried about people who sunk monies into this abortion. But at this point they will get everything they deserve.
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Someone needs to set up a clean and simple website cataloging all the claims about "Major Tom" so the world knows the truth behind his videos * Altering his game's files in order to break it * Using old builds that "aren't representative of Star Citizen as it is now" * Being Derek Smart * Being paid by Derek Smart * Using paid services to boost his YT views * Being illiterate * Playing for hours and hours and hours to find bugs just to make one video
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Xaerael posted:This is still what gets me about the whole thing. Idiots have trusted a man with a long track record of failure with a ton of money. Who hires someone back as a consultant if they're considered a failure? If Microsoft fired him and wanted him away from the product, they wouldn't hire him back.
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Young Freud posted:It's pretty common in most games to have a baked reflection map, since true reflection is only really used for detailed shots or used with only static objects being reflected or some other caveat. The problem is that usually in other games, it's a blurred map so you can't tell that it's just a static image. And the really stupid part is they could do away with reflections altogether by just saying "It's 900 years in the future, they've got anti-reflective glass-like materials so you don't give away your position by light bouncing off your helmet."
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ManofManyAliases posted:That's a funny ending you've adopted for this fiction you created. Except, the story hasn't come to an end yet. I must have missed the part where development ended and the game was complete. Development ended when Chris Roberts became involved.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Who hires someone back as a consultant if they're considered a failure? If Microsoft fired him and wanted him away from the product, they wouldn't hire him back. lol. That was probably part of the purchase deal.
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Xaerael posted:Development ended when Chris Roberts became involved. Let me go ask the 180 people sitting in the UK with their thumbs in their asses if development ended.
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