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Circa-2007 D&D's favorite political pundit, Al Giordano, has been making rumblings on Twitter about either primarying Bernie or outright running against him as a Democrat in two years. I don't think it's a stretch to assume he would be completely destroyed if he actually moved from Mexico to Vermont to run.
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that dude is crazy. if you tweet at him, he will try to log into your account a bunch of times to get it locked.
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Jul 10, 2016 21:48
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Bernie has quite a history of destroying carpetbaggers brought in to unseat him. Giordano would do particularly poorly because his base of support is too woke twitter, which consists of approximately zero residents of Vermont.
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Jul 10, 2016 21:49
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Well, that certainly puts IN in play. https://twitter.com/tomlobianco/status/752502485525430272
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Jul 11, 2016 15:04
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Joementum posted:Well, that certainly puts IN in play. Isn't he awful, and are you joking or serious?
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Jul 11, 2016 15:12
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silvergoose posted:Isn't he awful, and are you joking or serious? Oh, he's the dictionary definition of a third way Democrat, but I'm not joking about him making IN competitive this year.
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Jul 11, 2016 15:14
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Joementum posted:Oh, he's the dictionary definition of a third way Democrat, but I'm not joking about him making IN competitive this year. Yup figured and great! It was a fully serious question. 
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Jul 11, 2016 15:15
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I've been looking for it for years does anyone have the political cartoon of Evan Bayh surfboarding out of a helicopter as he retires from the senate?
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Jul 11, 2016 15:16
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Yeah I mean things are changing but if you want to get a reddish state blue it's still third way or no loving way.
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Jul 11, 2016 15:16
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LOL. "One more, this time look tired and smug"
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Jul 11, 2016 15:19
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Joementum posted:Well, that certainly puts IN in play. So Baron Hill is gonna just step aside? Was he looking for an excuse to get out of walking 500 miles across the state?
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Jul 11, 2016 15:38
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silvergoose posted:Isn't he awful, and are you joking or serious? he'd be awful if he was running in New England, but in red states "will not vote for mitch mcconnell as majority leader" is really the only thing you need in a senator
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Jul 11, 2016 15:45
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pathetic little tramp posted:I've been looking for it for years does anyone have the political cartoon of Evan Bayh surfboarding out of a helicopter as he retires from the senate?  Although I do much prefer this version: 
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Jul 11, 2016 15:54
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Evan Bayh really hosed up by retiring when he did. He very well might've held on even in 2010 (he might have scared Coats out of running) and he'd be very senior now. Bayh would make the race competitive (it is an open seat and he's still personally popular), but starting a Senate bid in July is really last-minute and he could run into some serious trouble getting his campaign apparatus up and running.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:04
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Patter Song posted:Evan Bayh really hosed up by retiring when he did. He very well might've held on even in 2010 (he might have scared Coats out of running) and he'd be very senior now. He'll have to console himself by crying into the enormous piles of money he's made for doing nothing the last eight years.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:08
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Patter Song posted:Evan Bayh really hosed up by retiring when he did. He very well might've held on even in 2010 (he might have scared Coats out of running) and he'd be very senior now. Eh, he's not exactly new to the process which would help him get things running quickly. I'm just leery of a return of blue dogs and the like who demand snowflake handouts in legislation because they know they're the 51st/60th vote. I'd rather go back to earmarks where the party can tell Bayh his loving state is losing a military base or something if he doesn't get in line. Granted, folks like him are better than nothing but their role as "winning vote" can go to their head with disastrous consequences. The only real way to get around that problem is to make them irrelevant with a bigger majority.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:12
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Isn't Bayh a lovely campaigner? I remember him being a Jack Conway type.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:12
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The worst part about Evan Bayh is that his dad Birch Bayh was a loving awesome senator.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:18
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The X-man cometh posted:Isn't Bayh a lovely campaigner? I remember him being a Jack Conway type. ...not really, considering he had a lockgrip on a Senate seat as a Democrat in Indiana. I mean, you can knock parts of his style but winning is really all that matters.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:18
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whydirt posted:The worst part about Evan Bayh is that his dad Birch Bayh was a loving awesome senator. Imagine I posted BirchBayh-jogging.jpg here as support for your position.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:20
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Patter Song posted:
He has like $10m cash on hand, should help a bit.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:35
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Yeah, CNN is reporting that he still has $10m in his Senate account that was never disbursed from 2010. Evan Bayh + Presidential Year + lots of money is about as good as it is ever going to get for Dems in Indiana unless they can find a way to make Richard Mourdock the Republican nominee again.
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Jul 11, 2016 16:49
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Just what the Senate needs! Another piece of poo poo.The X-man cometh posted:Isn't Bayh a lovely campaigner? I remember him being a Jack Conway type. He's a worse person.
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Jul 11, 2016 17:05
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Ballz posted:
Thank you, it was a bi-plane, maybe that's why I didn't remember it. Seriously thought the second version was the real one.
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Jul 11, 2016 17:22
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Joementum posted:Bernie has quite a history of destroying carpetbaggers brought in to unseat him. Also he's gonna run out of supporters after he blocks them all from his twitter feed.
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Jul 11, 2016 23:53
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whydirt posted:The worst part about Evan Bayh is that his dad Birch Bayh was a loving awesome senator.
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Jul 12, 2016 00:39
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mcmagic posted:Just what the Senate needs! Another piece of poo poo. The alternative is an ex-Heritage Foundation employee. Bayh is gross, but his opponent is worse.
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Jul 12, 2016 01:27
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at least for the next two congresses, conservative democrats are absolutely the only path to a blue majority, with all the 'are completely not liberals at all' baggage that entails. the presidential map is more liberal than the senatorial or house maps, sad but true and the days of progressive/left-of-center/not-republican/whatever the hell we mean when we say liberal in 21st century america politicians from states like indiana are simply over, i bet if birch was around now we'd either never have heard of him or he'd have his son's ideology if there are exceptions please let me know, it'd warm my heart, i just feel like this is how the world works oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 02:25 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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Jul 12, 2016 02:21
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It's annoying to dictate cartoon edits but this is way above my skill level: I would like to see a panel 3 where Hillary puts the plane into a Split S and a panel 4 where Evan Bayh is back in the plane, maybe upside down.
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Jul 12, 2016 02:49
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Speaking as a farther left Democrat than most and native Hoosier, I would absolutely cry with joy if Bayh got the seat over another shitlord Tea Partier who will do nothing and use statewide influence to gut the last of the good things left in the state He's not perfect but the choice isn't progressive versus third wayer, it's third way versus lunatic loving tea partier
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Jul 12, 2016 03:59
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Epic High Five posted:Speaking as a farther left Democrat than most and native Hoosier, I would absolutely cry with joy if Bayh got the seat over another shitlord Tea Partier who will do nothing and use statewide influence to gut the last of the good things left in the state It's really weird how many lefties looked at the tea party and decided retard purity tests was the way forward.
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Jul 12, 2016 04:48
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Bayh isn't really lovely because he's not ideologically pure, he's lovely because he's a slimy profiteer who make grandiose noises about the integrity of the system and wanting to go do something useful like teach when he left the senate and immediately took lobbying jobs. Like, he was basically on board for Obama's agenda, that wasn't the problem with him.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Bayh isn't really lovely because he's not ideologically pure, he's lovely because he's a slimy profiteer who make grandiose noises about the integrity of the system and wanting to go do something useful like teach when he left the senate and immediately took lobbying jobs. usually the voters fail to punish politicians for doing that kind of poo poo. maybe it'll end up hamstringing bayh's campaign though, it's not impossible. i feel like when the advertising money's even, your average voter just gets bewildered by the amount of mud being slung around and loses the capacity to identify and punish this sort of behavior as far as responding in non-horserace fashion, here's an appetizer of word salad: i think that politicians are a lot like athletes in that you should really keep them all at more than arm's length because yeah, it's easy to hate the ones you hear about who are bad, but there are so many more who just haven't been revealed for who they really are yet, and the ones who are good people don't need your love in the first place
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Jul 12, 2016 06:31
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Epic High Five posted:He's not perfect but the choice isn't progressive versus third wayer, it's third way versus lunatic loving tea partier Actually, he's a mainstream Republican, the tea partier got vanquished in the primaries. This is definitely a game changer but we'll have to see what the polls say before people consider it anything more than lean R. Indiana might even be one of those states where Trump plays better than he does nationally, though he'll obviously not be as good as a regular Republican, even there.
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Jul 12, 2016 06:40
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Indiana is a poo poo-tier state so they should be thrilled with the best garbage quality politician they could possibly get.
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Jul 12, 2016 07:58
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Cliff Racer posted:Actually, he's a mainstream Republican, the tea partier got vanquished in the primaries. Mainstream isn't much better, just look at the official platform that's been approved. Young has pretty much voted in lockstep with the worst of the bunch in the House and I don't see him doing any different in the Senate As for EV implications, I'm less concerned. I just want to get some Democrats round hurr so that we can hopefully get Right to Work off the books and stop the nonstop headlines of being a national embarrassment with the poo poo Pence and his stooges try to keep passing. If Clinton gets Indiana she'll have probably gotten GA and AZ before that so it'd just be an afterthought
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Jul 12, 2016 08:29
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I meant Trump's performance effecting turnout downballot. If Trump has to fight for Indiana he's already hosed anyway.
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Jul 12, 2016 14:45
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Bip Roberts posted:Indiana is a poo poo-tier state so they should be thrilled with the best garbage quality politician they could possibly get. From everything I've heard about Indiana it's a stealth pick for worst state in the country.
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Jul 12, 2016 17:04
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why is there no 2016 gubernatorial races thread  https://twitter.com/Lynn_Bonner/status/752903028378836992very glad to not be a TV ad watcher in NC this fall, given the pres race swingy-ness, the tight gov race, and the tight race btw Burr/Ross...
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Jul 12, 2016 18:22
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also, not much of a race, but grassley up by 10 https://twitter.com/IAStartingLine/status/752919020911812608
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