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DrPlump
Oct 5, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Boner Zone posted:

an alternative would be to raise taxes on the wealthy to previously seen levels and then use government spending to grow the economy to the point where welfare becomes unnecessary but lol yeah loving right

The rich would just bury the money in the desert I have already seen a show about this.

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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


DrPlump posted:

The rich would just bury the money in the desert I have already seen a show about this.

we've got some pretty sweet civil forfeiture laws police use to rob poor ppl that cant afford to hire attorneys who can wrangle the bizarre legal poo poo that's grown up around it, and we could really stand to weaponize that on wall street type criminals to line the coffers of the treasury maybe take property away from investors and return it to a proper citizenry for example or sieze things like factories and resume operations for public benefit producing goods at material cost to create a price ceiling, also some rent controls would be good bring those back, like i said the wpa is still there on paper, technically. we have everything we need to fix this honestly.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
re construction chat: Can you really show up and apply for a job without certs or and education in construction and get a job?
That would be freaking impossible over here in socialist paradise, it's atleast 3 years in high school, and probably another 3 years in college after that If you want the possibility to move up.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


There are certifications you need for operating a lot of equipment although im sure things like highway and poo poo maybe still require dumb grunt labor running in work convoys but honestly i doubt its a free for all its just rear end kicking real rear end hard labor with skin cancer and broken bones and workmans comp and making sure your pee will never be dirty from the joint you smoked over the weekend when you get hurt becomes a thing instead of being a waiver you sign to forfeit.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

again. kinda surprised this didnt happen earlier. Some idiot saying he was a martyr, I assume her careers is done.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

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here's Renegret's HOT TAKE on the situation

hurting other people is bad

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

Dapper_Swindler posted:

again. kinda surprised this didnt happen earlier. Some idiot saying he was a martyr, I assume her careers is done.

I know the bar for Miss Alabama is low but that chick looks like a bag of (black) hammers

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

spacetoaster posted:

if you only work 40 hours.

Look at this sentence fragment.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Renegret posted:

here's Renegret's HOT TAKE on the situation

hurting other people is bad

hosed up if true

Renegret
May 26, 2007

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Top City Homo posted:

hosed up if true

I have it on good authority

source: my mother

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Dapper_Swindler posted:

again. kinda surprised this didnt happen earlier. Some idiot saying he was a martyr, I assume her careers is done.

It's kinda crazy that a child molester and a guy who killed actual 'good cops' are considered martyrs for what is an important cause.

Nerses IV
May 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Zombiepop posted:

re construction chat: Can you really show up and apply for a job without certs or and education in construction and get a job?
That would be freaking impossible over here in socialist paradise, it's atleast 3 years in high school, and probably another 3 years in college after that If you want the possibility to move up.

You can't really walk on to the site and ask somebody for a job, or at least I've never seen it work, but you can apply to a temp staffing agency as an unskilled laborer and get assigned to one. Then you just have to be a reliable employee who can listen and learn, which means you'll be given increased responsibilities, and there's a good chance you'll be hired by one of the companies you're working with. It sounds kind of iffy, but I've seen it happen a whole bunch.

Being a new temp worker in a blue-collar industry is just about the most dangerous job out there, and you don't get any benefits or anything. Stories like this are pretty common. The rate of turnover is massive, but for somebody with zero prospects otherwise, I'd give it a shot.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Just steer clear of roofing. Please.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
big money in roofing if you arent a dipshit

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
dude shoots up vigil for another shooting victim in baltimore

thankfully no cops were hurt

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Temping is awful, completely Awful god drat it I hated temping. The whole 'maybe you'll get hired' thing is a complete joke . Temping is just a way for company to hire people without benefits and treat them like poo poo. I will never do it again and honestly McDonalds is probably preferable considering you won't get surprise fired half way through a a day with no ride home if you even made it that long. Most jobs people do for exactly one day before realizing modern temping is just a way for businesses to get benefit less laborer's that they can treat like absolute poo poo. One of my blue collar assignments was in a bottling plant and yeah I would not have been surprised at all if a guy got crushed by something in there. Training consisted of "make sure to wear your gloves and hairnet and do what the others are doing"

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
if you dont go into temping expecting a career, and know what it is - hourly work for hourly pay - then it's fine

i'd say stay in school to get a better job but common core is designed to teach common people how to do common things so i guess there's absolutely no way to better yourself

welfare is the only answer

Nerses IV
May 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

ethanol posted:

Temping is awful, completely Awful god drat it I hated temping. The whole 'maybe you'll get hired' thing is a complete joke . Temping is just a way for company to hire people without benefits and treat them like poo poo. I will never do it again and honestly McDonalds is probably preferable considering you won't get surprise fired half way through a a day with no ride home if you even made it that long. Most jobs people do for exactly one day before realizing modern temping is just a way for businesses to get benefit less laborer's that they can treat like absolute poo poo. One of my blue collar assignments was in a bottling plant and yeah I would not have been surprised at all if a guy got crushed by something in there. Training consisted of "make sure to wear your gloves and hairnet and do what the others are doing"

This is all basically true, yeah. I just think construction has slightly better prospects because there's always people who need to be replaced, as opposed to a company hiring a temp who's willing to crawl underneath a palletizer that hasn't been locked out because all the actual workers know better.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Degrees in sciences

misty mountaintop
Jun 2, 2015

by Hand Knit

Renegret posted:

here's Renegret's HOT TAKE on the situation

hurting other people is bad

You don't really believe that.

misty mountaintop
Jun 2, 2015

by Hand Knit
Almost everyone thinks it's ok to be violent and even to kill people some of the time, all we're doing is arguing over who to kill and how to do it.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Jose Oquendo posted:

It's kinda crazy that a child molester and a guy who killed actual 'good cops' are considered martyrs for what is an important cause.

why the mockquotes? just curious

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Jonny 290 posted:

why the mockquotes? just curious

I'm not sure either. I guess because some jerk will say claim that they weren't good cops and they probably deserved to die. Figured I'd head that off at the pass.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
The black community was the first major victim of globalization. Places like Detroit are just the beginning of the decline of western standards of living as the corporate super state dissolves borders and destabilizes communities by integrating 3rd world refugees and illegal immigrants into previously wealthy communities. As we raise living standards across the globe by encouraging illegal immigration, exporting jobs, and engaging in unfair trade practices (that benefit international corporations alone), Western living standards will fall. Every corner of the globe is being usurped into this corporate plantation like structure.

African-Americans were upwardly mobile right along white Americans until all the manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas. They should be seen as a the canary in the coal mine for things to come.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Millennial Sexlord posted:

How do you live on minimum wage? Get financial assistance of course!

Well yeah. I mean, that's what it's for. :shrug:

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Moridin920 posted:

Oh I see what you're saying. It happens. There's also a weird cultural thing in poor black communities though where leaving the ghetto is somehow seen as selling out.

It's just not by itself enough to do anything about the problem in general. But yeah as an individual there's usually always *something* you could do. A lot of people end up joining the army.

A lot of people get fooled into thinking dealing drugs is their way out and then they get put in prison.

Don't forget that "redlining" still exists despite housing discrimination laws. Some people just can't escape the ghetto.

Moridin920 posted:

Well realistically nothing if you're going to take that attitude. Idk. The drug war is seriously loving up so many aspects of our society. Drug epidemic? Becuase of the drug war. Gun violence? Drug war. Poverty? Drug war! Black people in prison at some crazy per capita rate? Drug war. Illegal immigration from the South? Drug war!

Any solution is realistically going to require some big changes so if you're asking 'what little changes can we do to slowly start fixing things' then idk off the top of my head. Decriminalize possession of small amounts of drugs.

The best thing to happen is the increase in white heroin addicts has started to stem the whole drug war talk and have people start talk about decriminalization and rehabilitation instead of imprisonment. Of course, white kids had to get involve, because if they were black, they'd just get sent to some criminal factory and become harder and more radicalized.

Moridin920 posted:

Seriously I just paid $2k for a root canal idk how in the gently caress anyone is supposed to afford that unless they take on debt or already have money.

My mom gave me her gold jewelry to sell to finance my root canal :smith:

ethanol posted:

Temping is awful, completely Awful god drat it I hated temping. The whole 'maybe you'll get hired' thing is a complete joke . Temping is just a way for company to hire people without benefits and treat them like poo poo. I will never do it again and honestly McDonalds is probably preferable considering you won't get surprise fired half way through a a day with no ride home if you even made it that long. Most jobs people do for exactly one day before realizing modern temping is just a way for businesses to get benefit less laborer's that they can treat like absolute poo poo. One of my blue collar assignments was in a bottling plant and yeah I would not have been surprised at all if a guy got crushed by something in there. Training consisted of "make sure to wear your gloves and hairnet and do what the others are doing"

Goddamn, yes. I've been doing temp work since graduating college a few years ago and the contracts I got were barely just above minimum wage, went months between contracts, and regulated to warehouse work because the women who run the staffing agency apparently saw that I was a man and my employment in a distro center I did five years ago and overlooked my college degree, my years of call center work, my experience with computers and office equipment, 50-60 wpm typing and ten-key, my back injury from being caught between two dumpsters, the car accident I was in little over two years ago, and my desire for clerical or support work instead of warehouse. And then they got pissed off at me when I went to another temp agency and took a clerical position the other agency offered over the warehouse job they lined up for me.

Edit: Goddamn, I didn't really want to sound like a MRA ranting, but I kinda felt that there was some sort of sex discrimination going on with the temp agency, but really couldn't prove it.

Young Freud fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jul 12, 2016

Cartouche
Jan 4, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

The black community was the first major victim of globalization. Places like Detroit are just the beginning of the decline of western standards of living as the corporate super state dissolves borders and destabilizes communities by integrating 3rd world refugees and illegal immigrants into previously wealthy communities. As we raise living standards across the globe by encouraging illegal immigration, exporting jobs, and engaging in unfair trade practices (that benefit international corporations alone), Western living standards will fall. Every corner of the globe is being usurped into this corporate plantation like structure.

African-Americans were upwardly mobile right along white Americans until all the manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas. They should be seen as a the canary in the coal mine for things to come.

VIVA BREXIT!

Renegret
May 26, 2007

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misty mountaintop posted:

You don't really believe that.

I do, actually

test me

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Renegret posted:

I do, actually

test me

Suck my dick, you fuckman.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

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The Bananana posted:

Suck my dick, you fuckman.

ok

how much you paying

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Renegret posted:

ok

how much you paying

Hopefully more than 7 an hour or you'll never be able to support a family.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

Zombiepop posted:

re construction chat: Can you really show up and apply for a job without certs or and education in construction and get a job?
That would be freaking impossible over here in socialist paradise, it's atleast 3 years in high school, and probably another 3 years in college after that If you want the possibility to move up.

work on a roof, yo. starts at $22 here (socialist paradise)

tenspott
Aug 1, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

The Kingfish posted:

Yep. Best job I've had to date was in a furniture warehouse.

The best job I had was a consultant. I used to bill fortune 500 companies stupid amounts to flirt with cute girls in their office.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Breaking: active shooter on my toilet

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Profound

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006


Lady Liberty has a beard and shades

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Solice Kirsk posted:

Hopefully more than 7 an hour or you'll never be able to support a family.

You can get financial assistance

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Renegret posted:

I have it on good authority

source: my mother

:kiddo:

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Millennial Sexlord posted:

You can get financial assistance

Ugh, yet another person suckling on the teet of society by relying on the state to suppliment their dick sucking income. My grandfather sucked dick from when he was 14 till he was 77 and he never once needed a helping hand from the damned government. It's his work ethic that I carry with me every time I suck a dick too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we should all think of how hard our grandfathers took it while we ourselves are sucking dick.

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