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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
I somehow went 4/5 in comp tonight, just queueing solo and picking one hero everyone hates or another and either just repeating "hello i am X main" or encouraging everyone just to have fun because winning isn't important. I think my lovely gimmick brings me good fortune or something.

EDIT: Reading this thread: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20746244493 is this an issue people actually have? My rig is getting on in years and the game runs buttery smooth at max settings. It's lagged literally once since I got it and it was because I was encoding a video in the background.

Verranicus fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 12, 2016

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objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine
Just played a really cool comp match on Gibraltar where our team's progress on attack (first round) was halted after 2 points. When the second round started I said "we need a captain but I'm not good enough to take charge" and the guy playing Mercy stepped up and verbally directed our actions to help us coordinate better, and it was as if that particular character he was playing was REALLY well suited to the position of giving directions because he'd be like "HOLD THE LINE AND FIGHT. DON'T WORRY I GOT REVIVE" and encourage players not to do all the stuff low level stuff pups (and goons) do. Not sure how I can generalize from this for future matches, because I'm not good enough to give orders but I can certainly obey commands like many a fine American in our splendid military.

Erika
Feb 6, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Man Zenyatta is becoming my new favourite class, everyone underestimates your fighting capabilities then they get discorded and orb'd to death. I hope he's still good against high levels.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


objects in mirror posted:

Just played a really cool comp match on Gibraltar where our team's progress on attack (first round) was halted after 2 points. When the second round started I said "we need a captain but I'm not good enough to take charge" and the guy playing Mercy stepped up and verbally directed our actions to help us coordinate better, and it was as if that particular character he was playing was REALLY well suited to the position of giving directions because he'd be like "HOLD THE LINE AND FIGHT. DON'T WORRY I GOT REVIVE" and encourage players not to do all the stuff low level stuff pups (and goons) do. Not sure how I can generalize from this for future matches, because I'm not good enough to give orders but I can certainly obey commands like many a fine American in our splendid military.

At the beginning of a match one random player in each team should get the role of team captain. It should come with unique voice lines you can trigger and the power to have full control over the voice chat (muting people etc.). At the end of the round your team decides if you were a good leader or not via vote. Bad leaders and trolls don't get to lead as often etc. Also rewards like hats.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Little Bitch Man posted:

Man Zenyatta is becoming my new favourite class, everyone underestimates your fighting capabilities then they get discorded and orb'd to death. I hope he's still good against high levels.

His main problem is dying in literally a hit, and being slow enough to easily hit.
He has a deceptively long range though

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

What are the best pharah and reaper counters besides themselves

For reaper I guess mei, 76, and a good mccree? Tracer maybe?

Pharah is tough to counter on consoles. I main her but hate going against her. I'm pretty good at countering them. Otherwise I guess 76 and maybe Winston? I've seen a couple good widowmakers since the patch but pretty much no one plays her anymore


objects in mirror posted:

When the second round started I said "we need a captain but I'm not good enough to take charge"

As lame as It might be I always thought this would be a good idea. Have one guy calling the shots and deciding on the team comp/counter picks. Would be hard to get a full team on board though, even if pre-made. I feel like a lot of the reasons I lose comp matches is because people just want to play their fav heroes and if they counter pick it's way too late in the game

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Jul 12, 2016

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.

Little Bitch Man posted:

Man Zenyatta is becoming my new favourite class, everyone underestimates your fighting capabilities then they get discorded and orb'd to death. I hope he's still good against high levels.

Nope. In comp, every Zenyetta I've ever seen (which is two) has been torn apart by my team, including myself just playing Lucio and prompty switched. He works in the weekly brawl where everyone has pathetically weak offense (because they're all support classes) but against actual threats, he falls apart like tissue paper.

I've got good news if you like him, he's getting buffed before any other character. Now they just need to do it.

Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

What are the best pharah and reaper counters besides themselves

For reaper I guess mei, 76, and a good mccree? Tracer maybe?

Pharah is tough to counter on consoles. I main her but hate going against her. I'm pretty good at countering them. Otherwise I guess 76 and maybe Winston? I've seen a couple good widowmakers since the patch but pretty much no one plays her anymore

Pharah is countered by hitscan. Bastion, McCree, 76, Tracer, Widowmaker especially, and Zenyetta because his projectiles are pretty fast on their own. Genji is especially annoying for them if you can reflect their rockets. Torbjorn also works if they don't really notice you, but that's pretty rare. Good luck hitting Pharah on console, though.

As for Reaper, Lucio is nice for pushing him back. Otherwise you want Zarya, Genji, and Tracer if you want to take him out specifically, but any class that does well at a distance also works. Reinhardt can also pin him, which is easy to do at close range.

Theta Zero fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Jul 12, 2016

objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

At the beginning of a match one random player in each team should get the role of team captain. It should come with unique voice lines you can trigger and the power to have full control over the voice chat (muting people etc.). At the end of the round your team decides if you were a good leader or not via vote. Bad leaders and trolls don't get to lead as often etc. Also rewards like hats.

This really is a good idea that, once implemented, will turn out to be easy to abuse and will get removed in the patch after.

(but seriously good idea.)

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

What are the best pharah and reaper counters besides themselves

For reaper I guess mei, 76, and a good mccree? Tracer maybe?

Pharah is tough to counter on consoles. I main her but hate going against her. I'm pretty good at countering them. Otherwise I guess 76 and maybe Winston? I've seen a couple good widowmakers since the patch but pretty much no one plays her anymore

Speaking strictly as a PC user I have pretty good record using Roadhog to counterpick Pharah and to a lesser extent Reaper.

Harass Pharah with your alternate fire until she uses her jump jet THEN hook her while she's flying. The follow up primary fire + Quick melee should kill her. Her only escape at that point is her concussive blast which usually puts her at the perfect range for a follow up alternate fire.

Reaper is a little trickier since his shotguns can absolutely wreck your massive hitbox. However, a perfectly placed alternate fire (ie a headshot) can 1-shot him iirc. You basically want to dance at the perfect range where his shotguns don't do much damage to you but your alternate fire really hurts him. If he doesn't wraith form to escape by the time he's about half health, you can hook + primary fire + melee for an instant kill.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


objects in mirror posted:

This really is a good idea that, once implemented, will turn out to be easy to abuse and will get removed in the patch after.

(but seriously good idea.)

i would be a model team leader 90% of the time and a huge raging rear end in a top hat 10% of the time

Erika
Feb 6, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Theta Zero posted:

Nope. In comp, every Zenyetta I've ever seen (which is two) has been torn apart by my team, including myself just playing Lucio and prompty switched. He works in the weekly brawl where everyone has pathetically weak offense (because they're all support classes) but against actual threats, he falls apart like tissue paper.

I've got good news if you like him, he's getting buffed before any other character. Now they just need to do it.
Great to hear he's getting buffed. I think I'll continue playing as him until I start to see myself getting dominated and being really useless to the team. I enjoy his discord orbs too much.

objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine
Alright so I'm at level 32 to 34, and it seems that at this level players just cannot deal with Torbjorn and Bastion when they're on offense escorting the payload, and on certain KOTH maps. I think they can handle a solitary Bastion who makes himself obvious, but not when he's mobile or has Reinhardt support. I myself love abusing Bastion at this level, but what can I as a solitary player do to counter this frequent combo (Bastion/Torb)?

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

I thought you could still block from playing with and against certain players or was that removed entirely because of some bitch rear end person playing Widowmaker cried about it?

Yeah I'm loving salty with the people it queues me up with.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Spudd posted:

I thought you could still block from playing with and against certain players or was that removed entirely because of some bitch rear end person playing Widowmaker cried about it?

Yeah I'm loving salty with the people it queues me up with.

Removed entirely because of bitchass people who didn't play widowmaker actually

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

objects in mirror posted:

Alright so I'm at level 32 to 34, and it seems that at this level players just cannot deal with Torbjorn and Bastion when they're on offense escorting the payload, and on certain KOTH maps. I think they can handle a solitary Bastion who makes himself obvious, but not when he's mobile or has Reinhardt support. I myself love abusing Bastion at this level, but what can I as a solitary player do to counter this frequent combo (Bastion/Torb)?

bastion is countered by genji (just get him to fire at you, then deflect the bullets right back at him, follow up with a primary fire or two while jumping around if he didn't die to his own fire), or any character that can peek and shoot high damaging projectiles (pharah, junkrat, hanzo, widowmaker, mei, lucio, symettra) with a pocket healer to keep them from dying for a few seconds, or roadhog (hook him and he reverts to recon mode), or indirect fire (hanzo, junkrat) hitting him from out of his line of sight. bastion does not have instant lock-on, so flanking him is another way to take him out. Bastion can not deal very well with being attacked from two directions at the same time.

torbjorn is countered by most of the same minus genji (his turret doesn't do enough damage to kill itself) and roadhog (the hook thing doesn't work but honestly he could probably just sit there and shoot it and survive) but plus winston (just jump near enough to the turret that your shield will not go around the turret and primary fire). also, keep in mind that they have a 40 yard acquisition range, so when a bad torbjorn sets up their turret somewhere that's exposed to a long line of sight, any character that has a long range attack (basically, not reaper, winston, roadhog, d.va) can just stand out of its range and kill it. Also for torbjorn turrets, unlike bastion, reinhardt and winston can tank their damage for a good period of time, so if the team just gathers behind the shield and all shoot the turret it will die pretty quickly.

The biggest weakness of both turrets is that they are stationary. That makes them very easy to hit. All you have to do is come up with a way to avoid return fire between shots, and if your character can do that your character can probably kill the turret. I think a lot of players just panic when they start coming under fire and try evasive movement, but that's not going to work against either bastion or turrets. Keep your wits about you, figure out where the turret is, and figure out from where you can pop in and out of cover to kill it.

if they have reinhardt protection, symettra and reinhardt can shoot right through those shields, pharah can flank the encampment, jump above it and drop a concussion rocket to break them up, junkrat can blow them apart with a land mine, hanzo can kill them all with a ult, mei can freeze them all with an ult, winston can jump in and kick them all over the place with an ult, etc etc.

objects in mirror
Apr 9, 2016

by Shine
Thanks! I will keep all of that in mind and not have panic attacks the next time I see this combo!

Kevin Bacon
Sep 22, 2010

Verranicus posted:

...

EDIT: Reading this thread: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20746244493 is this an issue people actually have? My rig is getting on in years and the game runs buttery smooth at max settings. It's lagged literally once since I got it and it was because I was encoding a video in the background.

It's a problem for some people for sure. I play the game on a laptop and got 50-70fps on medium/high settings which I thought should be fine, but something felt a little "off". I researched it and apparently because of the way the game is made, you will get more input lag the lower your FPS is or something. I tested it out by lowering all my settings, even the render quality to 50%, and the difference was pretty obvious for me. I'm sure a lot of people won't necessarily notice it, especially people who haven't played a ton of FPS games before.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



FYI, Battleborn is 14 bucks on Prime Day in Germany.

Hahaha.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.

mcbexx posted:

FYI, Battleborn is 14 bucks on Prime Day in Germany.

Hahaha.

How the mighty have fallen.

Well, how the mighty have been falling.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Junkrat is my favorite turret killer because there are situations where you can kill them out of their sight and there is literally nothing they can do about it. On some maps with very long sight lines though a bastion can sometimes kill you before you can even get in range, in which case pharah can rocket snipe him

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Theta Zero posted:

How the mighty have fallen.

Well, how the mighty have been falling.

Speaking of that game, does anyone know how much money Gearbox lost on battleborn? sorta curious how big a flop it was.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
I wish there was a middle ground between competitive and "lol whatever dude it's quickplay i'm just messing around"

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
I've noticed something funny about Reinhardt players, when there is one on both teams, they will drop whatever they are doing to immediately murder each other, even at great expense to their own team. They will even blow their Ult just to make sure they are the superior Reinhardt.

I'm including myself in this as a Reinhardt player as well and I really don't know why. It's like as soon as I see that other shield up it's like a giant bullseye for a Charge.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I've noticed something funny about Reinhardt players, when there is one on both teams, they will drop whatever they are doing to immediately murder each other, even at great expense to their own team. They will even blow their Ult just to make sure they are the superior Reinhardt.

I'm including myself in this as a Reinhardt player as well and I really don't know why. It's like as soon as I see that other shield up it's like a giant bullseye for a Charge.

From /r/overwatch
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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I've noticed something funny about Reinhardt players, when there is one on both teams, they will drop whatever they are doing to immediately murder each other, even at great expense to their own team. They will even blow their Ult just to make sure they are the superior Reinhardt.

I'm including myself in this as a Reinhardt player as well and I really don't know why. It's like as soon as I see that other shield up it's like a giant bullseye for a Charge.

The common language between all Reinhardts is Headbutt.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The common language between all Reinhardts is Headbutt.

And Hasselhoff.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

redweird posted:

I wish there was a middle ground between competitive and "lol whatever dude it's quickplay i'm just messing around"

Just start actively loving with your team via meiwalls when they give up halfway through a fight.

:shrug: they wanted a loss, who cares how it happened.

RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005

Just played against a 68(I'm 61) tracer who dropped 87 eliminations on us. He timed the jumps and rewinds perfectly the entire match. It enlightened me on how large the skill gap can be in only 6-8 levels.

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008


it's like watching mountain goats fighting each other

fuckin' majestic

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

RisqueBarber posted:

Just played against a 68(I'm 61) tracer who dropped 87 eliminations on us. He timed the jumps and rewinds perfectly the entire match. It enlightened me on how large the skill gap can be in only 6-8 levels.

Yeah I'm only 7 ranks away from A_Seagull which is pretty crazy considering i don't consider myself half as good as him

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Orange Crush Rush posted:

I've noticed something funny about Reinhardt players, when there is one on both teams, they will drop whatever they are doing to immediately murder each other, even at great expense to their own team. They will even blow their Ult just to make sure they are the superior Reinhardt.

I'm including myself in this as a Reinhardt player as well and I really don't know why. It's like as soon as I see that other shield up it's like a giant bullseye for a Charge.

same

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
X-post

Mister Fister posted:

Holy poo poo, Roadhog's chain hook hitbox is 10 times worse than Hanzo's arrow hitbox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6fZMrrHFbo

I remember playing against whatspeakyou as tracer on nepal (he was roadhog), and i was trying to bait him into throwing his hook while i was on some stairs and i remember him hooking me when i first peaked my head out, then went down the stairs to hide and he still hooked me. Thought it was a netcode issue, but noooope. drat that hitbox is generous as hell.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I've noticed something funny about Reinhardt players, when there is one on both teams, they will drop whatever they are doing to immediately murder each other, even at great expense to their own team. They will even blow their Ult just to make sure they are the superior Reinhardt.

I'm including myself in this as a Reinhardt player as well and I really don't know why. It's like as soon as I see that other shield up it's like a giant bullseye for a Charge.

If you're not seeking out your counterpart and dropping everything to kill them you are having fun wrong. With Pharah, this is why you are required to bind "Shot Down."

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007
Phara needs to be a 250 hp hero, why does she have the same hp as a dude not wearing a shirt while she wears power armor.

Blizzard please fix by putting her in a metal bikini or bumping her to 250.

hhhat
Apr 29, 2008

ColHannibal posted:

Phara needs to be a 250 hp hero, why does she have the same hp as a dude not wearing a shirt while she wears power armor.

Blizzard please fix by putting her in a metal bikini or bumping her to 250.

Subtle

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

ColHannibal posted:

Phara needs to be a 250 hp hero, why does she have the same hp as a dude not wearing a shirt while she wears power armor.

Blizzard please fix by putting her in a metal bikini or bumping her to 250.

Other option would be converting a little of her health to armor and staying at 200hp

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Like 2 of the 700 Hanzos I've seen in the past few weeks aren't using Volume Wolf and when the patch is in, I'm going to laugh at the rest of them who've been leaning on that poo poo.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Like 2 of the 700 Hanzos I've seen in the past few weeks aren't using Volume Wolf and when the patch is in, I'm going to laugh at the rest of them who've been leaning on that poo poo.

I don't think people have been getting the Wolf skin because it's call-out is quieter. I think it has something to do with wearing a godamn Wolf Headress and shooting out wolf-heads.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I use wolf hanzo because I got wolf hanzo out of a loot box, no other reason. :shrug:

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a cat on an apple
Apr 28, 2013

Kai Tave posted:

My personal Mercy theory: she's an actual literal angel hanging around on earth for reasons

The Mercy-is-a-villain thing comes primarily from symbolism, which Mercy has a ton of "messenger of death" subtones, including one of "everyone thinks it's doctor symbolism but actually it's death." See this article about the Caduceus but as a tl;dr the "Doctor Staff" is the Rod of Asclepius. The Caduceus Staff was used by Hermes who was a messenger and it's associated with trade & trickery. While it's usually a US mistake to make, as I understand Blizzard is usually good about their symbolism, so it's probably intentional.

She also calls her suit the Valkyrie, whom in actual mythos performed the precise opposite of what Mercy appears to do. As I understand, in WoW Blizzard explicitly got stuff about the Valkyries correct, so this case usage seems extremely odd and ill-fitting. Additionally, she has tons of orange, which while not inherently bad, is a very weird decision for someone who is supposed to be healing, compared to other colours that could have been chosen.

Personally, I'm leaning towards "well-meaning but accidentally becoming a dark necromancer" kind of thing.

Thor-Stryker posted:

I don't think people have been getting the Wolf skin because it's call-out is quieter. I think it has something to do with wearing a godamn Wolf Headress and shooting out wolf-heads.

awoooooo

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