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frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
So I just bought a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X and a Unifi UAP and everything has been working great, with one exception. The UAP makes a faint noise whenever it's transferring . This has been documented on the Ubiquiti forums, but I wondered if it was due to how I used POE in my setup.

I used the POE injector bundled with the UAP to supply power to the router via port 1, then I used the POE passthrough on port 4 to powe the UAP. This way I can power everything with one outlet. That's a supported use case, right?

Here's the thread: https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Unifi-AP-Noise/m-p/297314#M18325

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Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

frogbs posted:

So I just bought a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X and a Unifi UAP and everything has been working great, with one exception. The UAP makes a faint noise whenever it's transferring . This has been documented on the Ubiquiti forums, but I wondered if it was due to how I used POE in my setup.

I used the POE injector bundled with the UAP to supply power to the router via port 1, then I used the POE passthrough on port 4 to powe the UAP. This way I can power everything with one outlet. That's a supported use case, right?

Here's the thread: https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Unifi-AP-Noise/m-p/297314#M18325

How far is your cable run to the UAP and which UAP do you have?

My UAP-AC-Lite and UAP(wireless n) are both basically silent, but they're all 25ft runs or less.

You could try unplugging the injector and getting a bigger wall wart to power the router/PoE. The included wall wart isn't strong enough to power both the router and a PoE device.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Viper_3000 posted:

How far is your cable run to the UAP and which UAP do you have?

My UAP-AC-Lite and UAP(wireless n) are both basically silent, but they're all 25ft runs or less.

You could try unplugging the injector and getting a bigger wall wart to power the router/PoE. The included wall wart isn't strong enough to power both the router and a PoE device.

The cable run is 5 feet. I'm using a UAP(wireless n).

I just switched the router to use the included power supply and am now using the power injector alone on the AP. Hopefully the noise goes away, i'll post an update if that fixed the issue.

When I hooked up the power injector to the AP I accidentally had the ports switched, so I had the 24v going into port 4 of the router, which is bad! Interestingly the router actually powered on, but I quickly unplugged it. Everything seems to be ok now that i've fixed it, but is it possible i've broken anything even without completely releasing the magic blue smoke?

frogbs fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 12, 2016

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

frogbs posted:

The cable run is 5 feet. I'm using a UAP(wireless n).

I just switched the router to use the included power supply and am now using the power injector alone on the AP. Hopefully the noise goes away, i'll post an update if that fixed the issue.

When I hooked up the power injector to the AP I accidentally had the ports switched, so I had the 24v going into port 4 of the router, which is bad! Interestingly the router actually powered on, but I quickly unplugged it. Everything seems to be ok now that i've fixed it, but is it possible i've broken anything even without completely releasing the magic blue smoke?

Nah, if it was going to fry something it would have done so instantly. The ERX is designed to be powered by 24v PoE so its perfectly happy getting that on any of its ports (not sure what it would do if it got that on more than one port a time though). Now if you had been using a standard 48v injector then things probably would have gotten smokey.

Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler
If you're not seeing any issues you're probably fine. The pins that are used to carry power for PoE aren't used for anything else in a typical Gigabit Ethernet connection, so in a device that doesn't have PoE in or out they are probably just floating leads not connected to anything. You'd have to use a lot more voltage than 24V to cause damage there. In a device that does support it they'd be crazy to make it so that it's damaged by using the wrong port.

Antillie posted:

Now if you had been using a standard 48v injector then things probably would have gotten smokey.

Don't the standard injectors require signaling before they provide any power, unlike Ubiquiti's implementation?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Antillie posted:

Nah, if it was going to fry something it would have done so instantly. The ERX is designed to be powered by 24v PoE so its perfectly happy getting that on any of its ports (not sure what it would do if it got that on more than one port a time though). Now if you had been using a standard 48v injector then things probably would have gotten smokey.

IIRC the standard gigabit 48v injector follows 802.3af handshaking protocols properly, so non-PoE equipment doesn't actually get powered, but don't bet anything important on it

Graniteman
Nov 16, 2002

what is the recommended way to control access to adult content? I've read about using special DNS servers which have some block list in them. Anything else you'd suggest? I'm not looking to block an elite hacker, but just a 4 year old who may mis-click something on the iPad when I'm not looking.

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Eletriarnation posted:

If you're not seeing any issues you're probably fine. The pins that are used to carry power for PoE aren't used for anything else in a typical Gigabit Ethernet connection, so in a device that doesn't have PoE in or out they are probably just floating leads not connected to anything. You'd have to use a lot more voltage than 24V to cause damage there. In a device that does support it they'd be crazy to make it so that it's damaged by using the wrong port.


Don't the standard injectors require signaling before they provide any power, unlike Ubiquiti's implementation?

Yeah I think they do. But I don't like to rely on someone else to catch my idiocy.

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Graniteman posted:

what is the recommended way to control access to adult content? I've read about using special DNS servers which have some block list in them. Anything else you'd suggest? I'm not looking to block an elite hacker, but just a 4 year old who may mis-click something on the iPad when I'm not looking.

OpenDNS offers this service with their free accounts. Just have your router hand out the addresses of the OpenDNS servers instead of whatever it is handing out now for DNS servers and leave the OpenDNS updater app running on any machine on your network that is on a fair amount of the time.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Eletriarnation posted:

If you're not seeing any issues you're probably fine. The pins that are used to carry power for PoE aren't used for anything else in a typical Gigabit Ethernet connection, so in a device that doesn't have PoE in or out they are probably just floating leads not connected to anything. You'd have to use a lot more voltage than 24V to cause damage there. In a device that does support it they'd be crazy to make it so that it's damaged by using the wrong port.


Don't the standard injectors require signaling before they provide any power, unlike Ubiquiti's implementation?

Ok, glad to know that i'm probably ok.

There is something weird that's been happening since I did this. If my iphone is plugged in to power and on wifi some sort of backup process must start, as soon as this happens the network is completely hosed, everything loses internet connectivity. The only way i've been able to get everything back online is to restart both the modem and router and take the iphone off wifi. I was watching the logs the last time this happened and the iphone was only using 6 mbps up on a process called GoogleApis(SSL), which shouldn't bring everything down, right?

The modem and AP are on ports 1 and 4, which are the POE passthrough ports, maybe I fried something in the modem when I plugged the injector in? But maybe it has nothing to do with it, since this seems to only happen when my iphone is on wifi and secretly sending all my data to google.

Edit:

Or maybe I just need to enable QOS/Smart Queue?

frogbs fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jul 13, 2016

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!


Made an appointment to get fiber at my new apartment turned on. From what I was explained the fiber terminates to my unit and I just need to plug the router combo they give me into the wall via ethernet cable. In reality the NTU sees/provides 3 tagged VLANs, not just the one (the other 2 are for tv and phone services) as pictured but I don't care about tv or phone. The website that I took the picture from says that I can just use my own router and network equipment in lieu of the lovely one the ISP gives me, as long as the router can distinguish between the 3 tagged VLANs and route the proper one (6) appropriately.

Can the ER-Lite do that with hardware acceleration and all? I was thinking of going from in that picture the NTU --> ER-Lite --> Switch --> AP/devices. I think it should be able to because it was recommended on the website but it's not in a language I speak that well so I just want to double check.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Boris Galerkin posted:

Can the ER-Lite do that with hardware acceleration and all?
Deffinitely.

Boris Galerkin posted:

I was thinking of going from in that picture the NTU --> ER-Lite --> Switch --> AP/devices. I think it should be able to because it was recommended on the website but it's not in a language I speak that well so I just want to double check.

What's wrong with the picture? It very clearly says "POORT 3"

CrazyLittle fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jul 13, 2016

CheddarGoblin
Jan 12, 2005
oh

Eletriarnation posted:

The pins that are used to carry power for PoE aren't used for anything else in a typical Gigabit Ethernet connection,

Yes they are, actually. Gigabit ethernet uses all 4 wire pairs unlike 100base-T which only uses two. He's still probably fine, though.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?

Antillie posted:

All you really need is one or two cheap consumer switches, enough APs to cover the area, and something to act as a router. I would not go with a unifi security appliance. The ERX and ERL are both better options for a home router by comparison. I would skip the cloud key controller as well, its not hard to fire up the free controller software on a local PC when you need it. The long range APs are iffy. They might be a good idea, they might be a waste, hard to say. I get plenty of range on my two AP-AC-Lites.

Wish I had seen this earlier. I ordered all the unifi gear ubiquiti recommended despite the cost.

Setup was infuriating. Nothing wanted to adopt like it was supposed to. Eventually I rebooted everything several times, did some hard resets and for some reason they worked. By that time I was fairly tired, and just left the UAP-AC-Pro lying on the floor. Range is already better than my old router and my 3/1 connection has never felt so fast. Video streaming works way better than before. I am satisfied with the outcome, although the price was a bit steep.

Graniteman
Nov 16, 2002

rdb posted:

Wish I had seen this earlier. I ordered all the unifi gear ubiquiti recommended despite the cost.

Setup was infuriating. Nothing wanted to adopt like it was supposed to. Eventually I rebooted everything several times, did some hard resets and for some reason they worked. By that time I was fairly tired, and just left the UAP-AC-Pro lying on the floor. Range is already better than my old router and my 3/1 connection has never felt so fast. Video streaming works way better than before. I am satisfied with the outcome, although the price was a bit steep.

fwiw I recently also got a few unifi parts (controller, gateway, one UPA-AC-Pro) and setup was really smooth. I did find that there's some bug that hit me with the current gateway firmware and my internet speed was cut down from 250mbps to 35. Rolling back to the previous firmware version fixed it. Other than that I had no problems. Bummer that your experience was different. For my simple needs it seems like a good solution. I didn't want to roll my own server, so buying a $90 cloud key was a good option. And I agree, my wifi has never been faster. Speedtest is reporting the full 250mbps on my phone, which I never got with my old AP.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Ive been having occasional connection problems and I think it might be my modem, any time I call the ISP when its happening they say my connection is still fine but my modem isn't receiving the signal. I don't have another laying around so I'd have to go buy one and see if it clears things up, is there an easier way of narrowing the problem down without having to spend money or try to get out of work early and schedule a guy to come stare at my cable jack for ten minutes?

This is the modem I have right now, I've had it for 2-3 years. Ive noticed that when I had xfinity before and currently I have way more connection problems than I did when I had centurylink for a year, which is surprising considering that's DSL and I was renting their lovely modem.
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-DOCS...le+modem+cmd31t

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I just got done fighting with xfinity/comcast because their approved modems are not actually stable with their connections. I ended up renting a loving goddamn modem and of course it works perfectly. Its Cisco branded.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
I was having serious signal strength/connection problems with Comcast and they ended up replacing a big chunk of cabling outside which totally fixed my problem. If you're having connection problems with multiple ISPs (if I'm reading your post right, you had Xfinity and now someone else) but didn't with a DSL connection, it'd be worth it to see if you could get someone out to check the cable connection between your place and the phone pole.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





GobiasIndustries posted:

I was having serious signal strength/connection problems with Comcast and they ended up replacing a big chunk of cabling outside which totally fixed my problem. If you're having connection problems with multiple ISPs (if I'm reading your post right, you had Xfinity and now someone else) but didn't with a DSL connection, it'd be worth it to see if you could get someone out to check the cable connection between your place and the phone pole.

50% of the time your problem is this. 40% of the time your problem is your modem dying. 10% is technical issues on your ISPs side.

smax
Nov 9, 2009

We're buying a new house that I'm looking to network. We don't plan on getting a land line, but the phone jacks are all wired up with Cat5E so I'll install network jacks on it and use that. Problem is, I believe the punch down block for the phone lines is in the attic.

My question: does anyone know of an 8 or 16 port switch that can handle extreme temperatures? I'm in Texas, so attics get really drat hot out here.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

smax posted:

We're buying a new house that I'm looking to network. We don't plan on getting a land line, but the phone jacks are all wired up with Cat5E so I'll install network jacks on it and use that. Problem is, I believe the punch down block for the phone lines is in the attic.

My question: does anyone know of an 8 or 16 port switch that can handle extreme temperatures? I'm in Texas, so attics get really drat hot out here.

Personally, I'd find a closet and drop runs from the punch down block into the climate controlled closet. Should be pretty easy...except for working in a frickin attic.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

Thermopyle posted:

Personally, I'd find a closet and drop runs from the punch down block into the climate controlled closet. Should be pretty easy...except for working in a frickin attic.

This is how it is usually done in Texas (or anywhere I would think)

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


How hot are we talking? Most vendors list operating temperature ranges, so hopefully you could find something. I looked at the specs for the Ubiquiti Touchswitch, because I'm a Ubiquiti fanboy and it's named Toughswitch, and they claim operation up to 131F.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

GobiasIndustries posted:

I was having serious signal strength/connection problems with Comcast and they ended up replacing a big chunk of cabling outside which totally fixed my problem. If you're having connection problems with multiple ISPs (if I'm reading your post right, you had Xfinity and now someone else) but didn't with a DSL connection, it'd be worth it to see if you could get someone out to check the cable connection between your place and the phone pole.

I had Comcast that worked well but would have disconnection issues like every week or two, then had century link for a year and had to restart the modem like once ever, then moved and now have Comcast again. They installed a new jack and replaced some wiring in the building. Having them out here was a pain in the rear end so I wish it would just obviously be the modem.

Rukus
Mar 13, 2007

Hmph.

smax posted:

We're buying a new house that I'm looking to network. We don't plan on getting a land line, but the phone jacks are all wired up with Cat5E so I'll install network jacks on it and use that. Problem is, I believe the punch down block for the phone lines is in the attic.

My question: does anyone know of an 8 or 16 port switch that can handle extreme temperatures? I'm in Texas, so attics get really drat hot out here.

Netonix claims 131° F on their switches. A bit pricey but they're designed to be out in the elements.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
I recently bought a new place and I'm now just getting around to really getting the place set up with wifi correctly. I'm looking at getting some new gear, but I wanted to run my plan by you guys first and make sure I'm not doing anything too stupid.

So, I currently have Comcast coming into a modem I own and from there to a airport extreme 5th gen. Due to the size and layout of my place and the location of the router, I don't get good coverage.

My plan is to buy 2 ubiquity unifi AC lite AP's. Then turn off the radio on the airport, so my system will be:

Modem --> airport --> unify AP (x2)

Does this make sense? Is there a reason this wont work or would I be much better of with a different setup?

Rukus
Mar 13, 2007

Hmph.

emocrat posted:

I recently bought a new place and I'm now just getting around to really getting the place set up with wifi correctly. I'm looking at getting some new gear, but I wanted to run my plan by you guys first and make sure I'm not doing anything too stupid.

So, I currently have Comcast coming into a modem I own and from there to a airport extreme 5th gen. Due to the size and layout of my place and the location of the router, I don't get good coverage.

My plan is to buy 2 ubiquity unifi AC lite AP's. Then turn off the radio on the airport, so my system will be:

Modem --> airport --> unify AP (x2)

Does this make sense? Is there a reason this wont work or would I be much better of with a different setup?

That'll work fine, and if you need additional ethernet ports just plug a switch (OP has a few recommendations based on size) into the remaining port of the Airport Extreme.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

Rukus posted:

That'll work fine, and if you need additional ethernet ports just plug a switch (OP has a few recommendations based on size) into the remaining port of the Airport Extreme.

Cool. I guess I will get it done. Thanks.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Wowporn posted:

Ive been having occasional connection problems and I think it might be my modem, any time I call the ISP when its happening they say my connection is still fine but my modem isn't receiving the signal. I don't have another laying around so I'd have to go buy one and see if it clears things up, is there an easier way of narrowing the problem down without having to spend money or try to get out of work early and schedule a guy to come stare at my cable jack for ten minutes?

This is the modem I have right now, I've had it for 2-3 years. Ive noticed that when I had xfinity before and currently I have way more connection problems than I did when I had centurylink for a year, which is surprising considering that's DSL and I was renting their lovely modem.
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-DOCS...le+modem+cmd31t

My parents we're having serious modem issues a few years back, basically it would drop their connection a few times per day. They had a bunch of technicians come out, eventually one measured the signal coming into the modem and found that it was high, so much so that it apparently was causing the modem to reset itself. He added an inline attenuator to the back of the modem, and they've been good since. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express--Line-Signal-Attenuator/dp/B0002ZPIT6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468862735&sr=8-1&keywords=coax+attenuator

I'm not sure if this is common practice, and I could think of a few reasons it would be bad (does the pad work for outgoing signal as well?), but it's worked for them. Might be worth a shot!

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
Having a hard time deciding between Mikrotik and EdgeRouter, I kinda wanna get the ERLite3 just cause I've never used Ubiquiti before.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
I just did an Ubiquiti Edgerouter & UAC-AP-LITE in my 1600 sq. ft. house, works a dream and I can get reception like 40 feet out in the street as well.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

frogbs posted:

My parents we're having serious modem issues a few years back, basically it would drop their connection a few times per day. They had a bunch of technicians come out, eventually one measured the signal coming into the modem and found that it was high, so much so that it apparently was causing the modem to reset itself. He added an inline attenuator to the back of the modem, and they've been good since. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express--Line-Signal-Attenuator/dp/B0002ZPIT6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468862735&sr=8-1&keywords=coax+attenuator

I'm not sure if this is common practice, and I could think of a few reasons it would be bad (does the pad work for outgoing signal as well?), but it's worked for them. Might be worth a shot!

That's a really weird problem to have, but considering the jack is new and the bad cables were just replaced I wouldn't be surprised if it was that I guess. There's someone coming out on Wednesday so I guess I'll see then. Thanks for that otherwise I would have no clue that was a thing that happened.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Wowporn posted:

That's a really weird problem to have, but considering the jack is new and the bad cables were just replaced I wouldn't be surprised if it was that I guess. There's someone coming out on Wednesday so I guess I'll see then. Thanks for that otherwise I would have no clue that was a thing that happened.

You, the ISP, or the tech should be able to log into your modem and see the signal quality, etc. to catch this sort of thing.

Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.
So, I want to be able to VPN into my home network to access my (unRAID) server and potentially one other machine on the network while I'm out and about. It looks like from my googling there's 3 ways to do this. OpenVPN on my Edgerouter X SFP, OpenVPN on my sever and forwarding ports to it, or L2TP over IPsec which is hardware accelerated on my Edgerouter. I'm a complete idiot/newbie when it comes to setting up a VPN, so which option is the combination of easiest/best/most secure? And is there a guide anywhere that's basically a VPN for dummies setup manual that I can dig into? I also assume that I'll need to set up something like DuckDNS so that I'm not hosed when my ISP randomly decides to change my IP, right? Is that doable on the Edgerouter as well?

Rukus
Mar 13, 2007

Hmph.

Viper_3000 posted:

So, I want to be able to VPN into my home network to access my (unRAID) server and potentially one other machine on the network while I'm out and about. It looks like from my googling there's 3 ways to do this. OpenVPN on my Edgerouter X SFP, OpenVPN on my sever and forwarding ports to it, or L2TP over IPsec which is hardware accelerated on my Edgerouter. I'm a complete idiot/newbie when it comes to setting up a VPN, so which option is the combination of easiest/best/most secure? And is there a guide anywhere that's basically a VPN for dummies setup manual that I can dig into? I also assume that I'll need to set up something like DuckDNS so that I'm not hosed when my ISP randomly decides to change my IP, right? Is that doable on the Edgerouter as well?

I found L2TP over IPsec to be very painless with the Edgerouters. Follow this guide and you should be set. If you have a dynamic IP then yes, you should set up some kind of dynamic dns forwarder. I use afraid.org and have the ERL use crontab to run a wget of the IP update page every day.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
What is the difference between these two cables other than price?
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10233&cs_id=1023303&p_id=15384&seq=1&format=2

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10233&cs_id=1023303&p_id=880&seq=1&format=2

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!


There's no difference based on the descriptions as far as I can tell.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

One is blue, one is white :D

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

select the white colour option and it literally is the same photo; the cheaper one is ETL listed both are however UL listed. It looks like mono price simply found a newer supplier at cheaper cost, the product number is higher and no choice of colour.

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Wowporn posted:

That's a really weird problem to have, but considering the jack is new and the bad cables were just replaced I wouldn't be surprised if it was that I guess. There's someone coming out on Wednesday so I guess I'll see then. Thanks for that otherwise I would have no clue that was a thing that happened.

There was a family of squirrels living in the cable box

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