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Dead Reckoning posted:I agree, we should let uninformed outsiders have input on administrative policy. Except we should do it for everything. Quick, how do we all feel about how far nuclear power plant safety standards? How far should they have to be located from our town? how many innocent people have nuclear power plants killed in the US? also "uninformed" lol
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Dead Reckoning posted:
I, too, think the Geneva Conventions were a huge waste of time.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:21
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If you want a...uh...optimistic? experience, try looking back on some Bush era news/comedy/stories/whatever. Oh man, poo poo was dire. Every day was a new adventure in an almost confrontational level of corruption and it was literally impossible for him to go loving anywhere without committing some kind of near-international-incident. I mean the next guy literally got a Nobel Prize for Not Being That Dumb Fucker. Trump would basically be that except knowingly malicious instead of outright stupidity, so we haven't fully escaped yet. Still, things could be a lot worse, which I guess is what passes for optimism these days??? Either way looking at the crazy blatant poo poo they got away with is interesting/horrifying.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:22
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Dead Reckoning posted:I agree, we should let uninformed outsiders have input on administrative policy. Except we should do it for everything. Quick, how do we all feel about how far nuclear power plant safety standards? How far should they have to be located from our town? This kind of knee-jerk dismissal of OUTSIDERS is exactly what led to your dear old British chums overseas being on fire right now.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:23
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It wouldn't be 'outsiders' anyway, of course, it would be people who have worked in policing for decades and are also smart and know how to run departments without widespread graft and murder. It's not like Hillz would sit down and draw the whole plan up all by herself.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:40
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Hollismason posted:The reason to be terrified of George W. Bush and his tenure was not because he was a evil man , but a man who knew in his heart he was righteous in his actions. It can't be both?
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Jul 13, 2016 06:49
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Karl Sharks posted:how many innocent people have nuclear power plants killed in the US? Yinlock posted:This kind of knee-jerk dismissal of OUTSIDERS is exactly what led to your dear old British chums overseas being on fire right now. showbiz_liz posted:It wouldn't be 'outsiders' anyway, of course, it would be people who have worked in policing for decades and are also smart and know how to run departments without widespread graft and murder. It's not like Hillz would sit down and draw the whole plan up all by herself. Nationwide use of force standards seem a questionable proposition anyway, because not every department organizes, trains or equips their officers the same way, and this is a good thing, because the Sheriff's Office of a 5,000 person county in Wyoming has different needs and capabilities than the LAPD. Objective use of force standards seem to be rather questionable too, unless you want to make the 21-foot rule an actual legal concept, or require that the police objectively determine that the gun someone is waving around is real and loaded before they are allowed to use lethal force.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:12
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Dead Reckoning posted:Wow, way to suggest that everyone who has died in a nuclear power accident somehow had it coming. This but for education, environmental and labor standards. A factory in Ohio can't be expected to follow the same labor laws as loggers in Alaska and a dive bar in LA, that's nonsense!
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Jul 13, 2016 07:16
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Experts? What do they know? Harrumph.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:24
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Jesus Christ, Mick Huckabee. http://www.salon.com/2016/07/11/mike_huckabee_the_real_movement_in_america_should_be_male_lives_matter/ quote:It’s not me that needs to be ‘fact checked.’ It’s the Post — I only said exactly what YOU reported. My comments were 100 percent factual. The pure facts also reveal that 94 percent of those killed by police are men, so by your ‘proportional’ standards, the real movement in America should be ‘Male Lives Matter.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:25
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Huckabee is a clown. https://twitter.com/vicbergeriv/status/684484640606961668
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Jul 13, 2016 07:32
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GalacticAcid posted:Huckabee is a clown. Look at them fat white dudes. Why is it always fat white dudes who think they're glorious crusaders of Christ waiting for the holy wars to begin?
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Jul 13, 2016 07:41
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Trabisnikof posted:This but for education, environmental and labor standards. A factory in Ohio can't be expected to follow the same labor laws as loggers in Alaska and a dive bar in LA, that's nonsense! Meat Recital posted:Experts? What do they know? Harrumph. quote:I have got some specific ideas about what we can do for criminal justice reform. We need national guidelines about the use of force, particularly lethal force.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:48
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OSHA has federal standards for all of those things. State level has to follow those minimums.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:50
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I remember years ago seeing Huckabee on The Daily Show and he was jolly and charismatic and it worried me that he may ride that to high office I'm glad he went with the total loving lunatic approach instead
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Jul 13, 2016 07:51
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Dead Reckoning posted:Wow, way to suggest that everyone who has died in a nuclear power accident somehow had it coming. i honestly don't even know what you're trying to say here, but i'll answer my own question: 9 also love how you avoided defending your assumption that they would be "uninformed" administrators
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Jul 13, 2016 07:55
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Dead Reckoning posted:Seems pretty reasonable. In fact, I endorsed the idea of using funding to promulgate best practices across departments earlier. Nothing in there about soliciting input on use-of-force from the general community though. you frame it as if they're going to just pick random people off the street, are you this obtuse/dense on purpose or just trolling?
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Jul 13, 2016 07:57
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smg77 posted:I kind of hope that Trump announces Paul Ryan is his running mate and have it be a complete surprise to Ryan. This is actually my dream scenario now.
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Jul 13, 2016 08:23
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DemeaninDemon posted:OSHA has federal standards for all of those things. State level has to follow those minimums. I feel like we're talking past each other. My point is, I think federalism is generally a good thing, despite the problems it sometimes causes. We don't have a single, national police force for a variety of very good reasons, and since we don't have a national police force, trying to reach down and dictate administrative policy at the state and local level is a fool's errand. It's a solution in search of a problem; I don't think any of the officers involved in recent controversial shootings were confused because they had just transferred from a department where it was OK to blow a dude away for breathing funny. Karl Sharks posted:you frame it as if they're going to just pick random people off the street, are you this obtuse/dense on purpose or just trolling? Since we're talking about a policy based on Twitter fiat, rather than a serious policy proposal put forth by any candidate or party, it does matter how you define "outside input." It seems like most SMEs on legal use of force are either going to be LEOs, ex-LEOs, or prosecutors, so I'm wondering where this pool of previously untapped expertise is going to come from. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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Jul 13, 2016 08:27
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Stereotype posted:So have we talked about George W Bush merrily bobbing to the music in Dallas at the memorial for the slain police officers? Because it is weird and uncomfortable. It was sweet of Obama to kinda do it too at the end there so Bush wouldn't feel too awkward.
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Jul 13, 2016 08:27
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FIRST TIME posted:Jesus Christ, Mick Huckabee. Mike "kill people and break things" Huckabee was, for me, the worst of the GOP candidates and I'm glad we're having to deal with Teflon Don rather than his slimy rear end. Karl Sharks posted:you frame it as if they're going to just pick random people off the street, are you this obtuse/dense on purpose or just trolling? It's Dead Reckoning. Yes.
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Jul 13, 2016 08:36
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Epic High Five posted:I remember years ago seeing Huckabee on The Daily Show and he was jolly and charismatic and it worried me that he may ride that to high office I figured Cruz sucked a good bit of the fundie base away, leaving Huckabee with no actual political power and a gradually diminishing pool of followers precipitating his decline into fringe lunacy.
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Jul 13, 2016 09:07
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Dexo posted:Holy poo poo. She really isn't loving around. So much for her moving to the right after securing the nomination I guess. A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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Jul 13, 2016 09:29
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A Winner is Jew posted:So much for her moving to the right after securing the nomination I guess. The guidelines are a 1 sheet piece of paper with only the words, "white genocide"
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Jul 13, 2016 10:12
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Stereotype posted:So have we talked about George W Bush merrily bobbing to the music in Dallas at the memorial for the slain police officers? Because it is weird and uncomfortable. W seems to honestly loves music and doesn't give a flying gently caress what you think, because he knows the rhythm is gonna get him.   
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Jul 13, 2016 10:14
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Mr. Fowl posted:
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling Trump picks  on Friday, then the Cruz faithful refuse to vote for him and instead vote in Paul Ryan before he even knows he's on the ballot.
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Jul 13, 2016 10:22
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Gyges posted:
This, but they do it while Ryan is in the can. He exits to cheers, oblivious to what has happened. As he faces the beaming crowd's faces, the projected image of "Trump/Ryan 2016" catches his eye as the crudely and quickly drawn graphic appears on the RNC's giant screen. And only then does he learn. He is now one with the Trumpster fire.
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Jul 13, 2016 10:38
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Gyges posted:W seems to honestly loves music and doesn't give a flying gently caress what you think, because he knows the rhythm is gonna get him. fun fact, the song featured in each of the gifs is Battle Hymn of the Republic
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Jul 13, 2016 10:39
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I'm really considering picking up the new Bush biography. Anyone read it yet? https://www.amazon.com/Bush-Jean-Edward-Smith/dp/1476741190/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468403367&sr=8-1&keywords=Bush
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Jul 13, 2016 10:56
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A Winner is Jew posted:So much for her moving to the right after securing the nomination I guess. She was gonna move right, Trump was gonna move left, and there was no actual reason ever given for this conventional wisdom besides "well, $hillary lol" for Clinton and "well, it's what a sane and intelligent person would do" for Trump
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Jul 13, 2016 10:59
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I have seen people, especially in S4P, argue that Trump is lying and is actually a progressive so we should vote for him, while Clinton is lying and is actually a conservative so we should not vote for her.
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Jul 13, 2016 11:02
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blue squares posted:I have seen people, especially in S4P, argue that Trump is lying and is actually a progressive so we should vote for him, while Clinton is lying and is actually a conservative so we should not vote for her. Bad news for  but I guess that means Bernie's lying too about all that poo poo he said in endorsing the Hillz.
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Jul 13, 2016 11:04
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GalacticAcid posted:Huckabee is a clown. As if I didn't have enough reasons to be embarrassed about my home state.
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Jul 13, 2016 11:33
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HPanda posted:This, but they do it while Ryan is in the can. He exits to cheers, oblivious to what has happened. As he faces the beaming crowd's faces, the projected image of "Trump/Ryan 2016" catches his eye as the crudely and quickly drawn graphic appears on the RNC's giant screen. And only then does he learn. He is now one with the Trumpster fire. I can get behind this if there's a dolly zoom in there somewhere.
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Jul 13, 2016 12:13
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Oh hey it's that time again! Let's gather round the fire and arzy over another lovely Quinnipiac poll! https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/753184460384808960?s=09
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Jul 13, 2016 12:27
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The legend is that 'round these parts, if you link a Quinnipac RV poll, you'll be set upon by a wild Boosted! What's that in the bushes, could it be? Oh no it - RUN CHILDREN RUN Florida may be interesting, but the rest are within MoE like the others. ONTO THE PILE
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Jul 13, 2016 12:45
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HorseRenoir posted:Oh hey it's that time again! Let's gather round the fire and arzy over another lovely Quinnipiac poll! While we're on the subject 538 has Trump with about 22% chance to win and holding. That is really loving high.
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Jul 13, 2016 12:45
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I guess if Republicans were stupid about polls in 2012 that's a good enough reason for Democrats to ignore polls they don't like, too?
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Jul 13, 2016 12:46
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HorseRenoir posted:Oh hey it's that time again! Let's gather round the fire and arzy over another lovely Quinnipiac poll! What do the samplings look like? I can't check when at work.
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Kilroy posted:I guess if Republicans were stupid about polls in 2012 that's a good enough reason for Democrats to ignore polls they don't like, too? Who's ignoring them? I said onto the pile didn't I I even made a point not to ignore the leaked internal poll for crazy people because I know people get super sensitive about laughing at methodologies and being genuinely curious as to just what the gently caress Rasmussen is doing
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