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Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
"Harry, we've all fallen for a holodeck character, it happens..."
-Tom

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



i wonder if tom "did it" with alice

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Star Trek: Voyageur

Well punned.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
They never talk about the Federation Supreme Court, but I'd be willing to bet that at any given time they are hearing a case on legalizing humanoid hologram marriage.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Krieger-san! :swoon: :swoon:

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

Apollodorus posted:

Krieger-san! :swoon: :swoon:

Getting the Kreiger vs The State of New York decision overturned is the single most important voting issue for gold shirts in the 24th century.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

There is a class system in the Star Trek. The Gold shirts the upper class, the blues tech professionals, the Reds are the dispensable underclass.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Sunswipe posted:

Red Dwarf did something similar with Rimmer early on. To get him off the ship he had to be in a "holo cage," which was pretty much your idea with added cage to emphasise how trapped Rimmer was/add comedic humiliation. They ditched that later on and eventually went with the light bee idea so he could do stuff outside the ship without needing a bulky prop.

So basically, the low-budget sitcom sci-fi show handled the idea better than Voyager did.

Also later on they made him a hard-light hologram, so he could interact with stuff, if I remember correctly. Now, if Voyager had done something where away mission Doctor could only exist as a non-tangible hologram, that could be interesting, too. He's able to be networked to sensors and tricorders, but he's not able to actually touch anything. This maybe forces field-medic Tom to actually get his hands dirty under the Doctors instructions.

Something that had been on my mind lately is that after watching some random episodes, I sort of wish Tom had been a Cardassian instead of a human. Openly Cardassian character before Seska's reveal, prisoner in Federation Space who is looking at a potential early release in the name of 'good will' with the Cardassians taking care of the Maquis issue, distrusted by both sides, etc.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I really like when Rimmer became hard light it means he was entirely indestructible but he was still a useless inept coward so it didn't help much at all.
I enjoyed Red dwarf (while the two writers were together) but the setting is actually really cool and I wish they could have upped the cool scify vs pure comedy. The creators wanted a fairly realistic universe with no aliens and simple pre-FTL travel. Everything the characters find is 6 million year old human artifacts and monsters we created. Discovering 6 million years worth of human history as they slowly made their way "home" was actually a pretty rad concept. Where did the humans go? Why are there only abandoned facilities and the odd insane robot or genetically engineered monster? Could have been cool to explore.

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

If you're going to go that far, you may as well have every room be a holodeck. It's been shown that it's not an issue to patch holographic terminals into the ship's controls, and you could be in your quarters but also be on duty by having the computer simulate the rest of the bridge crew in real time around you, and you in real time around them.

It'd be a goon dream job, because no one would have to leave the quarters for any reason, and your quarters could have any luxury/appearance you please.

Computer, bring up holo-bridge, now run protocol "nude Tane"

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
In that one episode where the polyglot bumpy head alien lures the crew with a :airquote:Quantum Slipstream:airquote: ship, the StarFleet designation is NX-01A.

Way to gently caress up the naming scheme Voyager:argh:

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO

Tricky D posted:

They never talk about the Federation Supreme Court, but I'd be willing to bet that at any given time they are hearing a case on legalizing humanoid hologram marriage.

in the series finale the Doctor is married to a lady and everyone seems super cool with it, or at least ok with the fact that she's a living human instead of another hologram

and then they bring up his hot young wife later on and how he's going to outlive her because he's an immortal hard light hologram and he's all "yep! anyway!!!"

the whole issue of hologram sentience in star trek is super hosed up, i mean holograms have been able to pass as living creatures for decades. you legitimately couldn't tell the difference between a hologram and an actual person until you tried to turn one of them off but nope, hey these ones have outlived their usefulness so i guess let's ship them off to the mines or something?

it's something they touched on with Data but i don't think Trek every had the space cajones to ever push the idea of it to its logical conclusion of some kind of artificial persons revolution. could you imagine a revolt by even half the holodeck programs in the Federation?

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
Wasn't there a ship of rebelling holograms in Voyager that the doctor joined up with? Of course they weren't Federation. Federation holograms are perfect. It's like on teen shows its always Felicity's roommate who gets into smack, never Felicity herself.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Uhura can universally translate me any day :3:

Eighties ZomCom
Sep 10, 2008




criscodisco posted:

Wasn't there a ship of rebelling holograms in Voyager that the doctor joined up with? Of course they weren't Federation. Federation holograms are perfect. It's like on teen shows its always Felicity's roommate who gets into smack, never Felicity herself.

Actually from what I can remember the leader looked like a Bajoran so they were probably the ones that Hirogens made based on Voyager tech so they were Federation technically.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

Automatic Slim posted:

There is a class system in the Star Trek. The Gold shirts the upper class, the blues tech professionals, the Reds are the dispensable underclass.

They changed it by the time of TNG so that red was command, gold was engineering, and blue was science/medical.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Iron Crowned posted:

Uhura can universally translate me any day :3:

When I started college my computer was the only one in the house with the internet, and my dad used to use it to look up Uhura porn and never deleted his history.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

criscodisco posted:

When I started college my computer was the only one in the house with the internet, and my dad used to use it to look up Uhura porn and never deleted his history.

Hell, who hasn't

Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.

etalian posted:

Those nice boobs sorta made Obama president.

A quick Google search of "Jeri Ryan Obama" confirms this :vince:

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Hell, who hasn't

ME! :mad:

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Tricky D posted:

They changed it by the time of TNG so that red was command, gold was engineering, and blue was science/medical.

Obviously. The argument still stands.

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

When I started college my computer was the only one in the house with the internet, and my dad used to use it to look up Uhura porn and never deleted his history.

Dad straight so what

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006


Only because you could cheat because your dad did all the legwork, free-loader.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
The only legwork my dad ever did was when we would do Indian leg wrestling.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

naem posted:

Computer, bring up holo-bridge, now run protocol "nude Tane"

You want this guy naked on your bridge?

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
Sorta, yeah. Call it morbid curiosity (and a fat guy boner).

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Well, he already knows what YOU look like naked.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
How???

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Lol just lol if you think the head of the Obsidian Order doesn't have copies of all your nudes.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Apollodorus posted:

Well, he already knows what YOU look like naked.

I heard this in my head in his voice so clearly.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Cardassian surveillance bugs are 100% absolutely tiny tricorders that record full-body nudes of everyone in their range, while also logging their conversations.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Cardassian justice, best justice?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Apollodorus posted:

Well, he already knows what YOU look like naked.
Now I'm picturing a bunch of 14 year olds* in the holodeck recreating that scene in TNG with the alien abduction aliens, but with naked hot chicks.

Computer, increase cup size to DD... increase perkiness by a factor of 2... hmmm. Closer but, Computer, what's the current vaginal depth?


(* Geordie)

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




:riker: No...she's not giving me wood... Computer, make her smoother—

:awesomelon: Yeah, that's starting to look right.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

FilthyImp posted:

Now I'm picturing a bunch of 14 year olds* in the holodeck recreating that scene in TNG with the alien abduction aliens, but with naked hot chicks.

Computer, increase cup size to DD... increase perkiness by a factor of 2... hmmm. Closer but, Computer, what's the current vaginal depth?


(* Geordie)

Like he wouldn't just auger out her cervix.

Edit: with his dong.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
juststartrekthreadthings

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

FilthyImp posted:

Now I'm picturing a bunch of 14 year olds* in the holodeck recreating that scene in TNG with the alien abduction aliens, but with naked hot chicks.

Computer, increase cup size to DD... increase perkiness by a factor of 2... hmmm. Closer but, Computer, what's the current vaginal depth?


(* Geordie)

"Computer, give me a naked woman."

*Holodeck inflatable rubber woman materializes*

"No, something a little more intimidating."

*Rubber woman is replaced with holographic seventeen-tentacled eldritch horror with rotating rings of serrated metal vaginal dentata.*

"Hmm, yes, that's about right..."

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


"Computer send eldrtich horror rape demon into Moriarty's paperweight holo-universe via one-way transfer."

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
"Computer. Initiate program Sisko 504."

:a bucket of unwashed oysters and a scrub brush appear in the middle of an alleyway:

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Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Apollodorus posted:

Well, he already knows what YOU look like naked.

Well a good host knows the needs of his guests.

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