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rabidsquid posted:when i was a kid polar kraken was one of my favorite cards You might wanna buy a couple before they're all gone forever then!
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Count Bleck posted:You might wanna buy a couple before they're all gone forever then! i have a ton of them, i bought countless boxes of ice age
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Jul 14, 2016 01:22
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Sigma-X posted:goddamn mtgfinance pricing us out of this game: Ok now they've gone too far.
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Jul 14, 2016 01:26
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honestly one of those two isn't a buyout, it's fallout from Chapin's premium article this week on a new combo with the card and Crossroads Consecrator from the upcoming EMN
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Jul 14, 2016 01:47
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Jul 14, 2016 01:57
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Toshimo posted:8/1 B&R Changes: I nominate Toshimo for B&R List Curator.
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I'm 100% behind vintage channel/lich's mirror combo.
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There is a 0% chance counterbalance would be banned before top
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cheetah7071 posted:There is a 0% chance counterbalance would be banned before top Nonsense. Top is used in other decks without issue. Miracles is the problem, so you need to isolate a card that only that deck uses.
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Except wizards has repeatedly targeted top in multiple formats for reasons other than power level.
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Toshimo posted:Nonsense. Top is used in other decks without issue. Miracles is the problem, so you need to isolate a card that only that deck uses. And that card is Terminus.
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Sigma-X posted:goddamn mtgfinance pricing us out of this game: I'm dying I recently got a narwhal to prop on my doorframe. And uh how about O'Blixalis e: drat counterbalance. Arguments for that, top, or terminus were all reasonable I never felt strongly any which way about it. Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Terminus is the weakest dagger to Miracles, Top has a lot of splash damage but also kills Miracles, and killing counterbalance leaves top for all the non-blue decks that want card filtering. Any deck aside from Miracles that runs top isn't going to run to time with just top, so I don't think top has any reason to vanish from legacy other than gently caress Miracles. I've been saying Terminus should go for a year though. Letting decks fight the counterspell deck with fast creatures or more expensive creatures is great, and supreme verdict is fast enough to be playable but slow enough to not be oppressive in the way a "W: tuck all creatures to avoid all death triggers and recursion potential" is oppressive. On the other hand, banning top makes it safer for them to print more Miracles cards in the future  gently caress that mechanic.
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https://twitter.com/oarsman79/status/753351208580947968 Love the discussion this spawned. I really like Joe Lossett for the most part. Played against him at least 3 times and he was pleasant to play against even when he didn't win. His opinions on the brokenness of miracles is way too biased, for obvious reasons. I would figure such a good magic player would simply admit that he is emotional invested in the deck and can't let it go.
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Well it turns out that after selling all my standard good stuff, it seems the cards that I assumed were bulk are now making w/u a deck. I guess I will play that in standard no matter if its poo poo.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/oarsman79/status/753351208580947968 Are you loving joking? Literally the hallmark of a nerd is the dumb logic fallacy that befalls so many of them where "I am logical, therefore all of my opinions are fact based"
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And I hate to admit it, but Jeff's paper magic stream is great. I was sure that this was going to be trash and right off the bat it appears he put effort into putting this together and put something different out there that people are going to like.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/oarsman79/status/753351208580947968 I'm amazed how many people are mad at Lossett for saying it. He's not mean and he's not wrong. I'd have thought it was understood that when you present something publicly, you open yourself up to public response, but I guess nerds being afraid of possibly getting called on their own poo poo brings out the "only high-fives in public" mentality. Keeping this poo poo private cuts off a discussion about coverage that lots more people than Lossett and the bad commentators du jour could contribute to. Is Lossett supposed to just sit back and think about how poor coverage is but never effectively address it? Because that's our job.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/oarsman79/status/753351208580947968 Yeah, the argument that he wins by pre-boarding against the mirror reallllly isn't doing him any favors. That's kind of the definition of a meta-warping deck when you have to do that. Johnny Landmine posted:I'm amazed how many people are mad at Lossett for saying it. He's not mean and he's not wrong. I'd have thought it was understood that when you present something publicly, you open yourself up to public response, but I guess nerds being afraid of possibly getting called on their own poo poo brings out the "only high-fives in public" mentality. I think the problem was that he basically said "lol these idiots suck" except in a nicer way and he didn't try to add anything productive after. He's not wrong but there's better ways to do it.
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suicidesteve posted:I think the problem was that he basically said "lol these idiots suck" except in a nicer way and he didn't try to add anything productive after. He's not wrong but there's better ways to do it. Fair enough - I mean, I think "they didn't prepare enough" at least begins to offer something more constructive than "they're dumb and bad," but you're right that it needs a follow-through. But look how many of the responses are specifically and solely "No fair, you can't say this in front of everybody."
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suicidesteve posted:I think the problem was that he basically said "lol these idiots suck" except in a nicer way and he didn't try to add anything productive after. He's not wrong but there's better ways to do it. in 140 characters he manages two names, prefaces it with a compliment to soften the blow, and points to a specific reason for why they were commentating badly. You can't exactly attach your powerpoint deck and list the entire 20 step roadmap to goodtalkin' in a single tweet.
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Could have wrote a reddit thread that was twice as long and linked it in a tweet. "The thing was bad" on twitter isn't very useful and reads like a call out. Which I have no problem with but duh
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Sigma-X posted:in 140 characters he manages two names, prefaces it with a compliment to soften the blow, and points to a specific reason for why they were commentating badly. It's almost like Twitter isn't the right place to have that discussion.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Magic story time! From the look of things the Gatewatch will then show up and save everyone, mostly using Lili's army of the undead. Jace and Tamiyo will seal Emrakul in the silver moon using Tami's research plus moon magic. The Gatewatch will then gently caress off to advenntuuuure NFI what Sorin or Nahri are doing; probs having a final show down privately because as older planeswalkers they feel above all this poo poo and Sorin appears to have given up on Innistrad anyway and wants payback. They will likely appear again later having a running fight till Ugin steps in.
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suicidesteve posted:It's almost like Twitter isn't the right place to have
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Gridlocked posted:NFI what Sorin or Nahri are doing; probs having a final show down privately because as older planeswalkers they feel above all this poo poo and Sorin appears to have given up on Innistrad anyway and wants payback. They will likely appear again later having a running fight till Ugin steps in. They already did their thing. Sorin's locked in a box, Nahiri peaced out, and Olivia declared herself lord of Innistrad.
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Gridlocked posted:NFI what Sorin or Nahri are doing; probs having a final show down privately because as older planeswalkers they feel above all this poo poo and Sorin appears to have given up on Innistrad anyway and wants payback. They will likely appear again later having a running fight till Ugin steps in. That was last week. Nahiri basically used Sorin's hubris against him, locking him in a stone prison so he could watch Emrakul wreck Innistrad and planeswalked away. It was hilarious.
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Is it just me or was the writing not terrible this week? It wasn't incredible but it did a competent job of describing the setting and events without any cringeworthy lines, which is more than I can usually say.
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Retromancer posted:They already did their thing. Sorin's locked in a box, Nahiri peaced out, and Olivia declared herself lord of Innistrad. There were rumors that the art book said Nahiri killed Olivia before she left, or am I misremembering?
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BJPaskoff posted:There were rumors that the art book said Nahiri killed Olivia before she left, or am I misremembering? I remember the same thing. Something about Sorin using her to save himself or something? Unrelated, there is a guy at my LGS that has these nude zombie tokens and proxy lands. I realized there isn't much cheesecake depicting men. I was wondering if they made sleeves or something and how I would go about looking for them since Google just gets me to clothing stores.
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Jabor posted:sorin_x_jace_playmat.png Something I would want to actually look at.
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Oraculum Animi posted:there isn't much cheesecake depicting men. You're not wrong, but I'll never pass up a chance to post one of the few counterexamples, because  Lets Pickle posted:Is it just me or was the writing not terrible this week? Aside from one or two annoying bits, yea, whomever wrote this week's must be one of the
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bitprophet posted:You're not wrong, but I'll never pass up a chance to post one of the few counterexamples, because I love that card but do they make decent quality sleeves with him on it? Or possibly similar stuff from a third party? That's what I'm trying to find. It's easy to find anime girls and big titted general fantasy women but not the men.
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Spirits talk: The deck doesn't have as much brute force as Bant Humans, and more importantly it can't go as long. Between Tireless Tracker, Duskwatch Recruiter, and Thraben Inspector you can keep the gas going. Spirits has Bygone Bishop, and that is pretty much it. Adding 2x Gideon helped.
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Oraculum Animi posted:Something I would want to actually look at. Sadly we never got them made. The idea and art came around before Kickstarter existed. I forget the creator but maybe if they can be contacted and there's enough interest we can realize the dream.
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Sigma-X posted:Any deck aside from Miracles that runs top isn't going to run to time with just top, so I don't think top has any reason to vanish from legacy other than gently caress Miracles. I may actually quit legacy if they ban top, since I can't imagine Doomsday will be remotely playable, and that deck needs top just as much as miracles does. Regardless of whether or not miracles is oppressive, it would be a shame to kill (what is in my opinion) the most interesting/challenging deck in magic. A terminus ban seems like it would leave miracles still playable but nowhere near as powerful, but I have full confidence WotC will make the wrong call here. If they do ban a piece of miracles, I'd be interested to see if aggro (particularly goblins) makes any kind of comeback.
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Gnumonic posted:I may actually quit legacy if they ban top, since I can't imagine Doomsday will be remotely playable, and that deck needs top just as much as miracles does. Regardless of whether or not miracles is oppressive, it would be a shame to kill (what is in my opinion) the most interesting/challenging deck in magic. A terminus ban seems like it would leave miracles still playable but nowhere near as powerful, but I have full confidence WotC will make the wrong call here. If they do ban a piece of miracles, I'd be interested to see if aggro (particularly goblins) makes any kind of comeback. They haven't made the right choice in an eternal format yet so RiP Top! (Barring the extremely obvious, ie Dig and Cruise)
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I wouldn't quit Legacy if Top were banned, but it would make me very sad since my pet deck not only runs Top itself, but largely lives off of Miracles like a remora clinging to the underbelly of a great white shark. I'm not clamoring for a ban either way but if there has to be one, Terminus is my favorite because it minimizes splash damage to other decks, gives aggro a little more breathing room and might even open up more options for Counterbalance decks. I'd be really disappointed if they banned the most effective colorless (though admittedly only Blue really plays it in practice...) card filtering option. I think the Top ban is silly in Modern too but that's just because I have a philosophical disagreement with the notion of banning a card because people are bad at using it. Lucky for me, this philosophical disagreement goes unchallenged by actual experience since I don't play Modern anyway
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