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I'm sure they'll fill me with rage when I pick up the game again and finally finish floor 15, but it does seem like a really cool idea to have the enemy adventurer team also use Force Breaks. Plus, in general I think I prefer bosses to actually try and smash the crap out of me instead of being jokes like Esbat were in the original EO2.
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Update 62: 冻住! 不许走!  We're searching for the Ice King's grave today, because I have a strange compulsion to finish all my quests before going any further in the 6th Stratum.    SYSTEM: Baffled, you check your bag, and findt he Ice King's Book radiating light, and trembling. Upon revealing the block, the crest also seems to shudder, and begins emanating a thin light...   SYSTEM: You examine the tome again, but it simply appears to be a mundane book once more. If you wish to proceed, it seems you will have to lay hands upon the mysterious crest... Once you are ready to touch the crest, reach your hand out!   Much like the last icon, that thing turns into a shortcut after that.   Did you miss the giant areas with tons of ice? Because I sure did.     Ice Drake HP: 2451, STR: 65, TEC: 67, VIT: 51, AGI: 46, LUC: 54 Skills:
Disable resistances: The frosty breath from this dragon will affect its prey as well as its own body. Ice Drakes can be incredibly deadly if you don't have either Ice Wall or anyone quick enough to either kill them or disable them before Ice King's Howl. Good thing both of those are pretty easy to come by, no? The only other big thing about them is that practically every encounter in the 3rd Stratum secret area has an Ice Drake in it. Great fun, I tell you.    Even slow-as-molasses-going-uphill-in-January-with-crutches Ranger can outspeed Snow Lizards by this point.      This update is honestly going to be really light since it's really hard to talk about the ice areas.   Lots of chests by this point will just have some kind of high-level consumable, which I'm not gonna complain about.   I mean, really, how do I make sliding around that area for about 5 minutes interesting? It doesn't help that every encounter is 100% unremarkable.   The stairs lead to this small area that's basically just a corridor.   SYSTEM: A human-like silhouette melts into the snowy environs upon realizing your presence. SYSTEM: You trudge closer, but a gust of wind blows through the room, and the silhouette disappears. SYSTEM: You squint, wondering if you saw true, but nothing is there. What could it have been...?   That event is so abrupt that I believe Atlus only put it in to make this corridor not just something to walk through.   Another small area.     I don't know why Atlus thinks 3rd Stratum FOEs are threatening.   The Stun Knife has a 30% base chance to stun enemies upon a basic attack. This isn't your average, everyday trash. This is...advanced trash.   If you kill the Wandering Eyes, which you should very much be capable of, there is no special trick to moving around this room.       I went back to town to save and drop off drops.   Oh god look at how much empty space there is between us and the rest of the floor. This is going to be long, huh?   There was absolutely nothing interesting going on for a solid 6 minutes of raw footage.     SYSTEM: The footprints you leave in the snow reveal that you stand on a sturdy stone floor. You see faint but unmistakable signs of the High Lagaard crest engraved into the ground! SYSTEM: This can only be the Ice King's grave that you came to find! As you exult in your discovery, you notice something at your feet. You pick it up and see that it is a white Auratum.  SYSTEM: To have lived this long in such cold surroundings... Was it planted here deliberately? It may serve as proof that you have uncovered the grave. You stow it in your bag. When you return to Lagaard, you should report your success back at the bar.      Before we end the update, Quona has some dialogue now that we've finished The sleeping Duke.  SYSTEM: You take out the small charm Quona gave you and show it to her.  Next time: that one other quest we have, followed by actual 6th Stratum exploration. Surprising, I know.
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Wow, that is a ridiculous slide puzzle. And the squares you slip don't actually count for getting in fights either, do they? So it's just monotony.
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Glazius posted:Wow, that is a ridiculous slide puzzle. And the squares you slip don't actually count for getting in fights either, do they? So it's just monotony. Correct. This update was really short, but the actual raw footage is a bit over 20 minutes just because of the ice puzzles--not even random encounters on them, just the puzzles themselves.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Correct. This update was really short, but the actual raw footage is a bit over 20 minutes just because of the ice puzzles--not even random encounters on them, just the puzzles themselves. Hoo boy, that brings back a lot of memories about one of the DLC missions 
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The Highlander equipment is because Atlus had the bright idea to make a class DLC. If you don't have it, you can't buy any of it in the shop. Which is weird when it comes to Spears because Protectors can actually use them. Though that's probably because Hoplites in EO3 used Spears.
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No matter how I slice it, the next update is gonna just be the very short "Old scars, flaring anew" quest, followed by 26F. Meaning it's a very belated vote time. I'm not gonna provide descriptions or categories for characters for 6th Stratum exploration: just toss in a maximum of four votes, with a maximum of two per character.
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Jul 7, 2016 07:18
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Nadia x2, Tyler, and Asriel
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Jul 7, 2016 07:22
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Jul 7, 2016 07:41
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4 × (Ragnar's choice) I figure there's few enough stories left for these characters and you know which ones you want to tell and when to use obligate characters for what reasons.
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Jul 7, 2016 07:46
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Nadia x2, Tyler, Rheine. I will have Nadia be more active if it kills me.
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Jul 7, 2016 08:19
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Jul 7, 2016 08:37
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Jul 7, 2016 17:00
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Jul 7, 2016 17:08
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Rheine, Phoebe, Ursa, Ragnar's Choice
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Jul 7, 2016 17:24
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Random.org has decided I should vote for Sophie, Realga, Zack, and Phoebe.
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TyleRheine x2
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quote:My choice: 9 That's a hell of a tie; a 5-way tie for the last spot. Thankfully, I have enough votes to break it and end voting. The 26F party shall be Phoebe, Tyler, Nadia, Jackie, Rheine.
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Update 63: WHAT ARE THESE ICY BULBS FIGHTING FORRRRRRRR This is a party that I don't have much to say about.       This happened because my normal 3DS StreetPassed my recording 3DS. The 3DS EO games use StreetPass to share guild cards. The great thing about Guild Cards in EO2U is that you can trade for whatever Grimoires the selected character has. For example, if I wanted Peerless Combo level 10 from Sapph there, I could trade for it like I'd trade for a Grimoire from Grimoire Trade.    SYSTEM: The vivid scarlet of the forest around you reminds you of flames, but that's little more than a visual effect... What could explain this heat!? The intense temperature seems to be coming from the door directly in front of you. What lies beyond this door...? Once you are ready, open the door, and proceed forward!   SYSTEM: Deep inside the hidden woods, the passage surrounded by tall, crimson walls is as hot as flames... The dirt beneath your feet is burning hot, and the air further ahead is hazy and flickering... The geothermal abnormalities discovered on the south of the 9th floor must have originated from here. Your quest will be complete once you make a thorough search here to discover the cause.   SYSTEM: It is a round red tablet, roughly the size of your arm. You have no idea if it will come in handy, but there's no reason not to take it.   SYSTEM: You don't find anything else that could be useful. This would be a good place to end the investigation for now.       Hamao Primes restore 200 HP and 40 TP to one target. Blech.  Finishing Old scars, flaring anew unlocked this quest.  I send the Byeahs to get the required items, and head off to 16F after.    SYSTEM: Inside, a male winged one is looking around the room, as if looking for something. When he finally notices your presence, he gives you a glance, greeting you briefly.  SYSTEM: You are surprised by his bizarre attitude, but return his greeting. The man continues almost instantly... SYSTEM: The questions come so rapidly that you have no time to answer any of them. The man laughs... SYSTEM: You think back to the quest you accepted at the bar... You agreed to take an axe to the sharpener in the Labyrinth. This must be the man. You tell him the details of the quest, and await his response. SYSTEM: He takes the axe and checks its blade with his finger, then sits down to begin his work.  SYSTEM: The eccentric sharpener sounds somewhat disappointed as he hands you the freshly sharpened axe. SYSTEM: You recall the sword you picked up from the sixth stratum...and are mildly surprised he saw it through your bag. SYSTEM: The sharpener waves his hand in farewell, then promptly lays down on the forest floor without further explanation. At any rate, your quest should be complete now. All that remains is to bring the axe back and report to Cass.         I'm running out of things to say about levels. Oh, Jackie learned Double Action since we last saw her. It gives attack skills a chance to activate twice, for no extra TP cost. It doesn't stack with Action Boost, unfortunately, but it's still one of the better passives for damage dealers. It averages out to the same bonus as stuff like Phys/Elem ATK Up, but admit it, it's more fun watching a skill activate twice.    Well, no sense putting it off. Let's start 26F.   Veterans of EO3 might be getting bad flashbacks right now. Welcome to no map sections. While you're in these sections, your position is not shown on the map, discovered tiles are not updated, and if you have auto-pan enabled, like I do, it does not work in these rooms. And, no, zooming out and zooming in on the map does not work--Atlus wised up to that after EO3. Unlike EO3's no map sections, however, EO2U's are not unconditional.  That thing emitting fog is an Icy Bulb, and they are what cause the no-map effect.  Icy Bulbs aggro on you when you get close to them, and will actively run away from you. How do you solve this, you're probably asking?   You run into a loving DINOSAUR  Mokele-mbembe HP: 2396, STR: 58, TEC: 57, VIT: 44, AGI: 48, LUC: 42 Skills:
Disable resistances: Don't let its size fool you, this is one of the swiftest forest fiends! Mokele-mbembes are a threat if you let them live past the first turn. Good thing that 2396 HP is pretty piddly for this point in the game--at the very least, multiple damage dealers can kill it in one go.   It literally didn't get a chance to act.   Anyway. It's hard to tell here, but I chased the Icy Bulb into a crevice, where it is stuck--it will not move towards me.   Which lets me fight it.    Icy Bulb HP: 4577, STR: 78, TEC: 83, VIT: 60, AGI: 44, LUC: 61 Skills:
Disable resistances: It looks like a balloon, but inside, it stores icy gases ready to be spewed out. Icy Bulbs are completely trivial to kill. Ice Wall completely nullifies Frost Bomb and you'll always know when it's happening. Getting that conditional without a Hexer is another story. With a Hexer, you can chain together a combination of disables and easily ensure that the battle will go on long enough. Without that, though, getting the battle beyond 10 turns is almost entirely luck.    The battle was completely uninteresting. The Icy Bulb literally did nothing but attack. I'm not even trying for the conditional with this party, I'm gonna come back later with Sophie.   Once you've killed all of the Icy Bulbs in a room, the fog will dissipate.  I've literally run out of things I want on Phoebe, honestly.      I don't have the patience to kill the Icy Bulb for such a simple room.   Oh, yeah, Icy Bulbs respawn after one day. Wooooooooooooooooo.   It's really hard to show these rooms, honestly, since the entire gimmick is stumbling around blindly until you kill the Icy Bulb.     The chest has an Asterius spawn point right in front of it.   Too bad these things aren't that hard to fight.     Postgame level ups are really fun.  The name might be confusing you--this thing has Reverb on it.   Look at all that blind stumbling I saved you from.   Damage tiles are back! And they deal a whopping 50 per step this time.   I wish I could say something interesting about that room, but I can't. C'est la vie.     You can really badly hurt yourself by trying to walk in that room with the fog.   Asterius spawn points in random areas will start showing up more from here on out. In this room, the only ways forward involve walking in front of the spawn. Choose your path wisely!   Trying to do that without walking over the thorns is an exercise in frustration, since Asterii don't care about damage tiles.    Here's a chop point.   Seriously, just look at this mess.   We're done with the floor, at least.   Tally-ho, back in time--er, to town we go!  No-one has any new dialogue, since killing Golem was technically the trigger for 27F dialogue and quests.  Meaning this is the end for this update. Next time: 27F.
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27F vote time! It's mostly just a giant, open area, with tons of damage tiles, some Asterius spawn points, and half of the room is an Icy Bulb area. Woo. Once again, no descriptions, just vote for a maximum of four characters, with a maximum of two votes for one character.
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2x Rheine, 2x Zack Monarch March isn't the best solution but I find it helps with damage tiles quite a bit.
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Sophie, Colette, Nadia, Freyja. Lockdown into huge damage team!
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Icy Bulbs give a surprising amount of experience for how easy they are to kill, especially since they respawn when you leave the floor. Zack, Asriel, Realga, Ranger.
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Asriel, Rheine, Colette, Sophie. Gotta get that Icy Bulb conditional at some point, plus we don't see enough of the best ronin in existence.
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Jul 14, 2016 22:38
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BlackPersona posted:Sophie, Colette, Nadia, Freyja. Lockdown into huge damage team! This seems like a good team to me. Status effects all the way!
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4x don't care. I got a bit taken by surprise when they added in the no map rooms from EO3. Though these ones are more tame than those versions.
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Results are:quote:Sophie: 6 Using my votes, the next party shall be: Zack, Colette, Phoebe, Sophie, Rheine.
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Glazius posted:I'm guessing you can't just stock up on blast grenades to disrupt the Frost Bomb? No. The inflation isn't like Charge--it doesn't indicate that the enemy can be interrupted.
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Just posting to say that I haven't forgotten this thing, I've just been spending my free time playing games instead of doing LP stuff this past week, and now that I have access to EO5's data, I'm picking that apart. Next update should hopefully be out before the weekend's over, and now that I've finished Zero Time Dilemma, I'll be working on it more after this.
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Wait, what? Doesn't EO5 not come out for like another two weeks?
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vdate posted:Wait, what? Doesn't EO5 not come out for like another two weeks? You're correct, but the demo hit the Japanese eShop this past Wednesday, and while a lot of the game is trimmed out for space reasons, the data tables weren't. They're all formatted exactly like EO2U, too, so all my old (terribly-written) Python scripts that I made for the Untolds are coming in handy again. 
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Ragnar Homsar posted:They're all formatted exactly like EO2U, too, so all my old (terribly-written) Python scripts that I made for the Untolds are coming in handy again. Hooray for programmer laziness!
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Update 64: RuneScape is for Prick(ly Floor)s Time for 27F, the least engaging floor design in the series.     Yep, that dread in your stomach is entirely justified: 27F's gimmick is being a massively open field with tons of thorny floors. And no, that's not even the worst of it.   Oh yeah there's Asterii too, as if this floor wasn't fun enough.    King Shroom HP: 925, STR: 55, TEC: 38, VIT: 41, AGI: 34, LUC: 39 Skills:
Disable resistances: King Shrooms are complete non-entities. They barely deal any damage and die to a stiff breeze.  Bloody Lizard HP: 590, STR: 47, TEC: 42, VIT: 41, AGI: 41, LUC: 41 Skills:
Disable resistances: Its blood-red frills turn speckled when it's poisoned. Kill Bloody Lizards first if at all possible. Affection Collar mercifully has a 1% speed modifier, but if it gets it off, you can see a lot of hard work undone...if you're not just nuking enemies down immediately.  I ran for reasons I don't remember. It didn't involve Colette dying.   There really is basically nothing to this floor. It's just a giant field with damage tiles and Asterii spawn points.      There's stairs up peppering the entire floor, but only one of them actually goes anywhere useful.   This wasn't one of them.     This is, however.   Know what's even more fun than giant empty rooms? Giant empty rooms with fog.     As far as I'm concerned, these stairs are basically just ways to run away from Asterii.    Lord Saguaro HP: 1619, STR: 60, TEC: 44, VIT: 47, AGI: 27, LUC: 45 Skills:
Disable resistances: A cyclopean cactus whose eye glimmers in the dark. It can fire off needles without any effort. Lord Sauguari are pretty unremarkable. Bind their arms or just inflict any debilitating disable and they're harmless. The only annoying thing about them is their 50% resistance to all elemental damage.      There is legitimately nothing interesting about 27F. It's all just open plains and that one fog room, which took me over 30 minutes to completely map. You'll forgive me for just skipping it. As compensation, 28F town dialogue.     Haughty doctor: Goddamned pumpkins. Leggy dark hunter:  The best-laid plans:  It's kind of important that we do this, because it unlocks a postgame boss. A life in the balance: Chasing the dream:  Eh, Quona potentially being in mortal danger can wait. Let's talk to Marion and Dubois.    Let's start A life in the balance.     ...Well, that's some text that just got copy-pasted from EO2. (Chasing the dream took place in the 5th Stratum in EO2. It involved having to wait 24 in-game hours before he finished. Yes, it was really goddamn stupid.)  SYSTEM: As you try to think of a polite response to the question, the man cuts in abruptly. SYSTEM: You stand and stare frozen in shock at his unexpected accusation! He peers at you to gauge your reaction, then giggles. SYSTEM: He stops talking for a moment, and lets out a large sigh. SYSTEM: Though his mood swings confuse you, you take the Red Tablet and Gold Spore from your pack. SYSTEM: The man grabs the materials from your hands and begins gathering his scattered equipment.   SYSTEM: The man's face is clouded as he hands the sword back to you. SYSTEM: The man then lays flat on the floor, muttering under his breath as if pondering something. The rust and the grime have been scraped off, but the sword is still far from being sharp. You put it into your backpack and leave the area.        To close out the update, here's one food thing. Twice-Cooked Meat gives dead party members a 5% chance of reviving at the end of a turn. It's complete garbo. Next time: we save Quona. It might involve a dragon. Actually, scratch that, it definitely involves a dragon. Rea fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Pre-Update 65: Blizzard King pre-fight overview Blizzard King HP: 45000, STR: 88, TEC: 69, VIT: 64, AGI: 46, LUC: 61 Skills:
Disable resistances: A legendary blue dragon whose attacks are too powerful to withstand.  Blue Heart HP: 7500, STR: 88, TEC: 69, VIT: 64, AGI: 46, LUC: 61 Skills:
Disable resistances: (Yes, that is how the Blue Heart looks internally. I can't fix it.) Blizzard King can be an insane pain in the rear end. He hits really drat hard, Wail can single-handedly end an entire attempt even if luck is on your side, and Mirror Shield is one of the single worst skills to not know about beforehand. On your first go around, there's basically no way to see it coming, and even on future attempts, you might be able to guess as to what exactly triggers it (it's a mixture of certain turns and, at times, if you damage the Blizzard King too much in one turn). And the Blue Heart doesn't help matters--its HP is now out of one-shot range of even Alchemists, meaning you're going to have to put up with at least two turns of it. So what's the solution here? For me, disables. Disables disables disables. Head binds shut down all but two of the Blizzard King's most dangerous skills, and leg binds completely negate Mirror Shield. Yes, you heard me. Mirror Shield doesn't use a body part, but because leg binds give what is basically inverse priority, it basically becomes guaranteed to go last in the turn order, after your party has dealt damage. Hell, even with that, stuff like panic and fear shut the BK down, and they're not out of the picture given Creeping Curse. You know what everyone does by now, and I described my preferences up there, so pick from the categories, bearing in mind that Ranger is automatically in for conditional drop purposes: Damage dealers: Zack, Freyja, Stardust, Asriel, Jackie, Tyler Defense: Phoebe, Ursa Support: Nadia, Realga, Milly, Sophie, Colette, Rheine Also, a new caveat for all postgame bosses: if I judge the party chosen to be impossible to win with, I reserve the right to adjust them as necessary.
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