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Strobe posted:The TIE Advanced is roughly on par with an X-wing. I'd say that the T-65 is a P-51A Mustang, T-70 is a P-51D Mustang (primary difference between the A and D was an engine upgrade BF110 had cannons on the front and a tail gunner. The ARC170 is a better analogue imho
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), Y-wing is an SBD Dauntless, B-wing is the P-47 Thunderbolt, the TIE Advanced a FW-190, TIE Fighter a Zero, TIE Bomber an ME Bf 110, and the TIE Interceptor an ME Bf 109.
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Strobe posted:The TIE Advanced is roughly on par with an X-wing. I'd say that the T-65 is a P-51A Mustang, T-70 is a P-51D Mustang (primary difference between the A and D was an engine upgrade Why is the TIE Fighter the only one Imperial ship with a non-German analogue?  TIE Defender is a Me-262: Way too expensive, not as good as people think, and didn't matter at all in the big picture because of the limited production run.
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The B-Wing is an F4U Corsair. Late war, huge engine, massive bomb load, folding wings.Strobe posted:The TIE Advanced is roughly on par with an X-wing. I'd say that the T-65 is a P-51A Mustang, T-70 is a P-51D Mustang (primary difference between the A and D was an engine upgrade Man, the Dauntless is so loving cool and now it makes me love the Y-Wing even more. JerikTelorian fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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What can be made better in this list, besides not running Expose Han in the first place? The Falcon gets torn apart real fast with no defense so the only hope is to try and blow everything else up faster. Do I want to take Initiative since I have no repositioning on Han anyway? YT-1300: · Han Solo (46) Expose (4) Experimental Interface (3) · Kanan Jarrus (3) · Kyle Katarn (3) · Millennium Falcon (Evade) (1) HWK-290: · Jan Ors (25) Wired (1) Twin Laser Turret (6) Engine Upgrade (4) · Nien Nunb (1) Total 97 points Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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I would probably find points to put Chewie on Jan. Edit: how is the falcon getting stressed, to use the crew combo? Wouldn't Experimental Interface instead of Engine upgrade be the go? hoiyes fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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He was running EI last I knew so I bet it's a typo, yeah.
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 Yeah I was messing with builds and put the wrong mod in. Should be Experimental Interface, not Engine Upgrade. Focus, Target Lock and Expose every turn.
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What's a fun rebel squad to run against imp aces if I don't care about winning?
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The bwing is the beaufighter
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yronic heroism posted:What's a fun rebel squad to run against imp aces if I don't care about winning? Four Blue Squadron B-Wings with Tractor Beam and Fire Control System
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yronic heroism posted:What's a fun rebel squad to run against imp aces if I don't care about winning? Ultra Dash (you might even win)
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3 Knave Squadron with R2s, FCS and Stealth Device. It's like running three Interceptors! That are worse.
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overdesigned posted:Four Blue Squadron B-Wings with Tractor Beam and Fire Control System Bring all the big rocks too. Name the list SuperDash (against asteroids)
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Finster Dexter posted:But instead, Every TIE is better than every comparable rebel ship in terms of maneuvers. IMHO, Imp Aces should never be a thing. It should've always been swarms as the dominant Imp list. Eh, I'm okay with this thematically. Since Empire=Nazis it makes sense for Imperials to focus on Aces and killcount (i.e. the Baron title) since the Luftwaffe under Goring were obsessed with Aces and killcounts to the degree that it actively sabotaged the Nazi war effort.
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Thundercracker posted:Eh, I'm okay with this thematically. Since Empire=Nazis it makes sense for Imperials to focus on Aces and killcount (i.e. the Baron title) since the Luftwaffe under Goring were obsessed with Aces and killcounts to the degree that it actively sabotaged the Nazi war effort. I remember hearing that during the Battle of Britain that when they tallied up the Luftwaffe's claimed kills vs. the known strength of the RAF they determined that the RAF had negative (some hundred) planes
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In tangentially related news, FFG announced some cool new limited edition art sleeves. https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/7/13/its-time-to-choose-a-side/ I really like the BB8 and Rey sleeves.
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canyoneer posted:In tangentially related news, FFG announced some cool new limited edition art sleeves. I was really hoping they were the stickers made sleeves and they were! The Rey and BB8 sticker art look amazing. And yeah I always thought of the empire as ace-obsessed with inflated kill counts. My friend and I used to joke that they were the Luftwaffe in Crimea in 43-44 with all the top aces involved. I guess those would be Soontir, Ink, and OL now.  E: correction of earlier model. The defender is the Me 329 cartoon plane. Take your pick of the weird Lippisch projects but that one takes the cake IMO. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Those sleeves beg the question: what will Kylo fly?
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In additional "FFG doesn't proofread their articles" news, I looked that ARC preview article again and their suggested list of two ARCs and Biggs is actually 101 points.
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hoiyes posted:Those sleeves beg the question: what will Kylo fly? Well, based on what they did with ARC, he will be flying TIE/sf, obviously.
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Finally flew a Lothal Rebel/Dash combo against a friend last night and it was insanely fun. A lot of the lists I see have FCS on the Ghost, but I am wondering if taking reinforced deflectors would be better to keep him alive a little longer? Here is what I used: Dash Rendar - 36 Engine Upgrade - 4 Outrider - 5 PTL - 3 Heavy Laser Cannon - 7 Kanan Jarrus - 3 Lothal Rebel - 35 Reinforced Deflectors - 3 Autoblaster Turret - 2 Hera - 1 Zeb - 1
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lazerus06 posted:Finally flew a Lothal Rebel/Dash combo against a friend last night and it was insanely fun. A lot of the lists I see have FCS on the Ghost, but I am wondering if taking reinforced deflectors would be better to keep him alive a little longer? I've been contemplating Reinforced Deflectors, as well. I don't think you can give up the TL, though, otherwise you are stuck with naked dice, and I'm a very bad roller so that doesn't work well for me. I'm also not 100% convinced you get that much durability from Deflectors. Although, I haven't actually tried it out, yet. I got some other Dash lists I want to try out first. Finster Dexter fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Some Numbers posted:In additional "FFG doesn't proofread their articles" news, I looked that ARC preview article again and their suggested list of two ARCs and Biggs is actually 101 points. fly casual 
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overdesigned posted:fly casual It's just a negative initiative bid.
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Poopy Palpy posted:It's just a negative initiative bid. Age of Sheev
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I'm between three lists for Nationals, and I need opinionsquote:Soontir+PTL+AT+Stealth quote:Soontir + PTL + AT + Stealth quote:Palpmobile I have the most experience with the first one, the second is an attempt to bring some more punch in. The 3rd is just a list i and ro5s came up with. Thoughts?  Also sound off if you're going to Gencon.
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If you're willing to bring palp, bring palp. Trip aces is fun but gets demoralising when the green dice ream you out for the 58 millionth time in two days. loving trust me. Of the two palps I'm inclined to the defender one but Vessery definitely wants a different EPT. PS6 and PS7 are mostly the same right now and you don't particularly need much bid for either. Juke is grand on /x7 Vessery. But don't play palp/aces, gently caress palp/aces in the face.
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ro5s vs Deviant is a 100-26 win for me in the league. E: thespaceinvader posted:If you're willing to bring palp, bring palp. Trip aces is fun but gets demoralising when the green dice ream you out for the 58 millionth time in two days. The idea is more to drop Vessery when possible, then they're both PS 5 to give you options for what order to move. There's probably room to tweak it though, juke would be good too.
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Deviant posted:I'm between three lists for Nationals, and I need opinions Ryad with Palp is glorious! So durable and gets poo poo done. I concur with everything thespaceinvader said, also. I would bring the Defenders, just because people are going to be familiar and used to playing Soontir+Inq+Palp. It's a very common template. The Defenders, maybe not as much. I bet there will be a lot of Defenders there, though.
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thespaceinvader posted:
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lazerus06 posted:Finally flew a Lothal Rebel/Dash combo against a friend last night and it was insanely fun. A lot of the lists I see have FCS on the Ghost, but I am wondering if taking reinforced deflectors would be better to keep him alive a little longer?
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Despite my losing record, I'm in the top four for league. I'm guessing it's because of all the new people playing and most of the vets stepping out this league. Time to bust out Super Dash and Miranda 
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Enhanced Deflectors is a card that makes me really salty. I'd probably be less salty if it was something along the lines of "When defending, if there are three or more uncancelled [hit] or [crit] results, you may cancel one result before applying damage" but no instead we got a card where dealing 3 damage is strictly worse than dealing only two damage because you were probably doing hull damage and then gave them a shield back that can eat a crit just fine, and the end result is an enforced "you must attack this ship X times in order to kill it" where X is a stupidly high number on a ship that isn't appropriately costed for its durability and offensive capability whatsoever.
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I'm tempted to take one of the Big Three T-65 pilots as Dash's wingman but they're awkwardly priced and leave me around 92 points unless I buy things like APTs or Protons on Dash.
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Edit: to Strobe: Well actually the card you just described is far better because you'd always cancel a crit result.
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hoiyes posted:Edit: to Strobe: Well actually the card you just described is far better because you'd always cancel a crit result. Fair point. Amend to "the attacking player must" instead of "you may".
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ro5s posted:ro5s vs Deviant is a 100-26 win for me in the league. You should usually be able to keep them apart enough not to worry, especially given how insanely flexible Ryad's dial is.
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Why is the text on the card and the WIKI different from the text on YASB for Reinforced Deflectors? Card and Wiki: After you suffer 3 or more damage from an attack, recover 1 shield (up to your shield value). YASB: After defending, if you suffered a combination of 3 or more damage and critical damage during the attack, recover 1 shield (up to your shield value).
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canyonero posted:Why is the text on the card and the WIKI different from the text on YASB for Reinforced Deflectors? YASB is using the corrected FAQ wording. Apparently critical damage isn't damage?
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They're technically different terms, so yeah.
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