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https://twitter.com/cycling_podcast/status/753610361304145920
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Jul 14, 2016 16:46
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Boo https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/753617220664786944
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Jul 14, 2016 16:50
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Jul 14, 2016 16:52
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Valverde is such a dick: "It's an accident of the race but these things happen in sport. They hit the moto and fell, but these things happen in cycling." What, they hit a motorcycle, who can say who is to blame for this series of events, these things happen
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Jul 14, 2016 16:52
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Was that a Chorus of boos at the announcement of the results?
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Jul 14, 2016 16:54
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Times have been taken from the crash. Quintana over a minute down.
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Jul 14, 2016 16:57
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Jul 14, 2016 16:58
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Get ready for 5km of barriers and even spectators banned from the other summits too narrow for that now.
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Jul 14, 2016 16:58
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serious gaylord posted:Get ready for 5km of barriers and even spectators banned from the other summits too narrow for that now. Good.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:00
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Xenophon posted:Valverde is such a dick: "It's an accident of the race but these things happen in sport. They hit the moto and fell, but these things happen in cycling." What, they hit a motorcycle, who can say who is to blame for this series of events, these things happen He's not wrong. People lose time for that often enough without the results being neutralized.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:07
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For a fault of their own, or their equipment, or their team yes not for a fault of an outside party 
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Jul 14, 2016 17:10
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Quintana was on his way to losing serious time there. He got lucky.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:12
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Skarsnik posted:For a fault of their own, or their equipment, or their team yes Not five years ago, a spectator caused Contador to crash and he lost a minute.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:17
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serious gaylord posted:Get ready for 5km of barriers and even spectators banned from the other summits too narrow for that now. The barriers can be minimal and narrow. Just enough to prevent idiots from stepping into the path of (motor)cyclists.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:20
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King Hong Kong posted:often enough King Hong Kong posted:five years ago
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Jul 14, 2016 17:20
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Froome provided enough entertainment by running in his cleats that he deserves yellow.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:23
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That was a notable example from within recent memory that came to mind. If you want, I can make a list of other outside circumstances that were not compensated for. Either way, the decision made today is not generally the one made under similar circumstances.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:24
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If they can just get rid of idiots like the pillock with the sign it would be an improvement.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:26
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You know they do just the one Tour each year right?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:32
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oh please Like Froome or not any other result would be dumb as gently caress
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Jul 14, 2016 17:36
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He'd have got the time back tomorrow anyway.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:39
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Skarsnik posted:oh please I guarantee that had it been anyone but Froome, he'd be tweeting about that "being racing" and we would all be surprised by the neutralization. I had forgotten about this incident just last year where a stage result was impacted and there was no neutralization: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/motorbike-driver-ejected-from-tour-de-france-after-fuglsang-crash/
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Jul 14, 2016 17:43
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King Hong Kong posted:I guarantee that had it been anyone but Froome, he'd be tweeting about that "being racing" and we would all be surprised by the neutralization. He wasn't riding for GC though, what do you want them to do? Declare him the stage winner?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:45
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Was anyone surprised by the Yates thing? How is this any different?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:47
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Vando posted:He wasn't riding for GC though, what do you want them to do? Declare him the stage winner? They did nothing in that case which is what they should have done in this case as well. It was an arbitrary decision because having Froome lose time (which he was going to gain tomorrow anyway) might have looked bad.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:50
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King Hong Kong posted:Not five years ago, a spectator caused Contador to crash and he lost a minute. Also I don't even remember this happening, was this 2011?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:52
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King Hong Kong posted:They did nothing in that case which is what they should have done in this case as well. It was an arbitrary decision because having Froome lose time (which he was going to gain tomorrow anyway) might have looked bad. I'd ask you to stop posting complete newbie poo poo but alas it looks like I'm going to have to wait about 10 days for that.
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Jul 14, 2016 17:54
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King Hong Kong posted:I guarantee that had it been anyone but Froome, he'd be tweeting about that "being racing" and we would all be surprised by the neutralization. Isn't there some kind of general respect for the yellow jersey?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:57
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Anyone know what damage Froome's bike sustained in the crash?
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Jul 14, 2016 17:57
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It got run over by a motorbike Gonna say probably a fair bit
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Jul 14, 2016 17:59
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I thought he just ran into the back of Porte 
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Jul 14, 2016 18:03
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Vando posted:I'd ask you to stop posting complete newbie poo poo but alas it looks like I'm going to have to wait about 10 days for that. It's a matter of interpretation and I just happen to disagree with it. Don't assume anything about my level of knowledge from the fact that I don't usually post. And, yes, that was 2011 stage 1. The incident was 9 km from the finish but the split was compounded by another incident later.
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Jul 14, 2016 18:03
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Kilmers Elbow posted:I thought he just ran into the back of Porte I thought I saw a report saying the following bike ran over it, may have been imagining that in all the excitement King Hong Kong posted:It's a matter of interpretation and I just happen to disagree with it. Don't assume anything about my level of knowledge from the fact that I don't usually post. you might as well just say 'I don't like Froome and so I don't like this decision' Cos your attempts to justify it any other way are looking a bit desperate now Skarsnik fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Jul 14, 2016 18:07
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E: oops, quote is not edit
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Jul 14, 2016 18:08
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King Hong Kong posted:And, yes, that was 2011 stage 1. The incident was 9 km from the finish but the split was compounded by another incident later. So I didn't remember this it all, went and looked it up and turns out it was really down to an Astana rider riding in the gutter like an idiot. Nice comparison, seems my assessment of your knowledge was fair after all
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Jul 14, 2016 18:19
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Kilmers Elbow posted:Anyone know what damage Froome's bike sustained in the crash? There's a picture floating around out there, the frame was broken at the chain stay.
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Jul 14, 2016 18:21
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Vando posted:So I didn't remember this it all, went and looked it up and turns out it was really down to an Astana rider riding in the gutter like an idiot. Nice comparison, seems my assessment of your knowledge was fair after all I don't really want to continue this line of discussion more than what is necessary but you've moved the goal posts about what can and cannot be considered and framed it in a way that is toxic for discussion when you could simply have argued that the application is inconsistent but that that, too, is racing. As far as the outcome on the race, it's not like Quintana has any right to complain considering how much time he would have lost if the winds hadn't forced a shorter stage.
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Jul 14, 2016 18:32
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I was trying to avoid spoilers today until I get home from work, but out at lunch I saw Chris Froome sprinting uphill on ESPN so I just had to read. loving lol.
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Jul 14, 2016 18:42
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King Hong Kong posted:I don't really want to continue this line of discussion more than what is necessary but you've moved the goal posts about what can and cannot be considered and framed it in a way that is toxic for discussion when you could simply have argued that the application is inconsistent but that that, too, is racing. It's not inconsistent at all, there's a world of difference between being caught up in an accident caused by someone riding like an idiot and being taken out by an external factor (flamme wobbly, stopped moto etc). The only similar incidents I can think of have been in cases where a ruling like today's would be impractical (GVA in San Sebastian, for example).
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Skarsnik posted:Not sure of anyone has been watching these but the Velon onboard highlights are pretty cool Thanks, these are terrific. Nice to see it from the inside.
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