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GoodBee posted:Is Gastone getting a collectors box too? Because I want that. They only said "the 5 Warmachine factions" on the Primecast, which leaves Gaston in question. Although the pp folks aren't renowned for their accuracy so maybe they just meant 6.
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head58 posted:They only said "the 5 Warmachine factions" on the Primecast, which leaves Gaston in question. Although the pp folks aren't renowned for their accuracy so maybe they just meant 6. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm assuming collectors box is a battlegroup and I could use some more merc jacks.
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GoodBee posted:I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm assuming collectors box is a battlegroup and I could use some more merc jacks. Hungerford confirms he isn't, and you shouldn't assume that. the Haley box was her, some pins and a book. Neither was the butcher or kromac boxes. It's probably going to just be the caster, the cards and pin like they said on primecast.
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GoodBee posted:I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm assuming collectors box is a battlegroup and I could use some more merc jacks. The last one they did was just Epic Twins vs. Epic Kromac. I'd figure the set is just the full versions of the casters.
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mr. stefan posted:I can't wait for elara2 to be an utter disappointment of an assassination caster This was my exact first thought. My second thought was, "oooooh the Troll one could be awesome! "
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Khisanth Magus posted:Oh, Acosta is Knaak's self insert in this setting? I really hate Knaak the Hack and really wish companies would stop having him write fiction for them. Into the Storm was good enough for me to read Into the Wilds, which I feel was a good book. It's A LOT better than Into the Storm. Best character in the books is Headhunter though, because he's Stormclad Rowdy. Why Acosta has center stage (being a support character) is beyond me. It should be Headhunter everytime.
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dexefiend posted:This was my exact first thought. My second thought was, "oooooh the Troll one could be awesome! " Every time I think of elara in comparison to every other mage hunter model, I imagine Narn reenacting that one scene from Kung Pow "We trained her wrong, as a joke."
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Kithkar posted:Hungerford confirms he isn't, and you shouldn't assume that. the Haley box was her, some pins and a book. Neither was the butcher or kromac boxes. It's probably going to just be the caster, the cards and pin like they said on primecast. Where was this confirmed? I'm curious as my lil group is saying that was a mistake, should have been 6 in the cast. Also, I was told I had someone lined up to ninja a Gastone at the con for me. I checked his Twitter and made a brief run over to the PP forums but did not see anything. I will be super sad if Mercs don't get a new MK3 caster.
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Crazy Ferret posted:Where was this confirmed? I'm curious as my lil group is saying that was a mistake, should have been 6 in the cast. Also, I was told I had someone lined up to ninja a Gastone at the con for me. I checked his Twitter and made a brief run over to the PP forums but did not see anything. http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?256918-OFFICIAL-Primecast-34-is-Live!&p=3612318&viewfull=1#post3612318 Don't worry, you're probably getting Caine3.
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Kithkar posted:Hungerford confirms he isn't, and you shouldn't assume that. the Haley box was her, some pins and a book. Neither was the butcher or kromac boxes. It's probably going to just be the caster, the cards and pin like they said on primecast. Oh. I didn't know they did collectors boxes before. We'll get Gastone eventually. Maybe in the first Merc book, fingers crossed.
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Kithkar posted:http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?256918-OFFICIAL-Primecast-34-is-Live!&p=3612318&viewfull=1#post3612318 Oh boo. Oh well, thanks for the link though! Yeah, the Caine/Magnus switch is legitimately interesting and I'm curious to see what theme lists will evolve out of it.
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A local game shop near me has been suggesting an escalation league to celebrate 3E, and while I don't think I can contribute the time or money yet I've been interested in at least learning the ropes of the game. Do you guys have any recommended starter box factions for a relative newcomer, to both Warmachine and tabletop wargaming in general?
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The Bee posted:A local game shop near me has been suggesting an escalation league to celebrate 3E, and while I don't think I can contribute the time or money yet I've been interested in at least learning the ropes of the game. Do you guys have any recommended starter box factions for a relative newcomer, to both Warmachine and tabletop wargaming in general? Really it depends on which faction you like the look of and your play style. However someone did make a quiz to help guide you in the right direction; http://www.koghrun.net/whsurv/index.html
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The Bee posted:A local game shop near me has been suggesting an escalation league to celebrate 3E, and while I don't think I can contribute the time or money yet I've been interested in at least learning the ropes of the game. Do you guys have any recommended starter box factions for a relative newcomer, to both Warmachine and tabletop wargaming in general? Mercs, Minions, and Convergence will not have starter boxes and probably should be avoided by new players. So unless you have your heart set on them, look elsewhere. They do have lists set up for escalation league games though if you are interested. Past that, just pick the faction that you like the best. They are all really good and you will want to find the aesthetics that appeal to you. You will typically spend a lot of time with one faction before branching out so you will want to pick the one that best suits you. Check out the Battleboxes, and then go to Privateer Press's website and click on the Warmachine or Hordes links on the left side. From there, you can use the Gallery to check out all the models for the different factions and see what you like.
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Some general notes though: Convergence isn't getting regular releases so avoid them. Mercs, Cryx and Trolls are expensive for various reasons. Minions as well, to a lesser degree. Skorne is, uh, maybe not in the best place right now.
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People poo poo on Skorne a lot but if you really like how they look the best, go for it. Some people really like flags and Titan diapers and the gooniest of all casters.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think it's safe to say that Skorne are worse than, say, Khador or Menoth, but it's not like Skorne is 100% unplayable trash. So in the end if picking them up is on the table it's more a question of how important relative faction power is to you.
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I took the quiz and looked up the recommended factions, which were basically a giant pile-up around 40%. Aesthetic-wise, I think I'm digging the Legion or Cygnar most. Cygnar's got a big, kind of exaggerated hunch profile that makes nice silhouettes, while Legion's got really nice ugliness to it and I love the stumpy little shredders to bits. Also, dragons. Which one would be simplest for a newcomer to pick up, both playwise and paintwise?
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Play-wise Cygnar is in an amazing place right now, having benefited greatly from the transition to mk3. Painting-wise they're fun, blue's a pretty forgiving color (though you'll want to change your water and clean your brushes really frequently because blue is unforgiving on bristles and will tint the water so much that it will change every other color you use) and the 'jacks are fun and really satisfying to paint. All the infantry seems either to have a lot of fiddly detail that I hate (gun mages) or lots of mold lines that are a pain in the rear end to clean off (storm knights) but that's scarcely unique to Cygnar. Swans own, play Swans.
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The Bee posted:I took the quiz and looked up the recommended factions, which were basically a giant pile-up around 40%. Aesthetic-wise, I think I'm digging the Legion or Cygnar most. Cygnar's got a big, kind of exaggerated hunch profile that makes nice silhouettes, while Legion's got really nice ugliness to it and I love the stumpy little shredders to bits. Also, dragons. Probably Cygnar. Hordes is a more difficult system in general because you're worried about allocations a turn in advance. You have a much harder time screwing yourself in Warmachine, since a jack out of your control area is just going to be less effective, instead of doing negative work by attacking your own stuff.
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I've played both Cygnar and Legion quite a bit, and I think Cygnar also profited handsomely from Mk3. Legion is still good I think, but people are having to sort out what constitutes the new Legion. Having our Shepherds go from removing all fury to one, even with a +1 to their field allowance, is making something of a difference. Paint-wise, I think Legion might be a bit easier, insofar as you have skin, then their natural armor/individual scales. The Nephilim might need additional thought about metal armor and cloth, but that's about it.
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As for simple/easy to play, I wouldn't even think about that. This game is a pretty big time and money investment, don't decide what you want to play based on how hard the first games are going to be. And all factions have their straightforward lists.
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Pyrolocutus posted:I've played both Cygnar and Legion quite a bit, and I think Cygnar also profited handsomely from Mk3. Legion is still good I think, but people are having to sort out what constitutes the new Legion. Having our Shepherds go from removing all fury to one, even with a +1 to their field allowance, is making something of a difference. I do have to say that of the 3 factions I have in progress, Legion is the one that I'm most motivated to paint.
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rkajdi posted:Probably Cygnar. Hordes is a more difficult system in general because you're worried about allocations a turn in advance. You have a much harder time screwing yourself in Warmachine, since a jack out of your control area is just going to be less effective, instead of doing negative work by attacking your own stuff. A beast outside of your control area is probably closer to your opponent's stuff than yours. Hordes isn't much more difficult since you can adjust your plans activation-by-activation based on how your turn plays out without having to allocate resources. It's much more of a risk management system than it used to be though.
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The Bee posted:I took the quiz and looked up the recommended factions, which were basically a giant pile-up around 40%. Aesthetic-wise, I think I'm digging the Legion or Cygnar most. Cygnar's got a big, kind of exaggerated hunch profile that makes nice silhouettes, while Legion's got really nice ugliness to it and I love the stumpy little shredders to bits. Also, dragons. I find beasts a little easier to paint than jacks. I like painting organic stuff like skin, fur, hair, etc. better. But then again wings are a little harder to paint than, um, not wings?
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GoodBee posted:I find beasts a little easier to paint than jacks. I like painting organic stuff like skin, fur, hair, etc. better. But then again wings are a little harder to paint than, um, not wings? Yeah, definitely, the more details there are, the easier it is to hide mistakes. Jacks have a lot of large flat surfaces.
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Want a really mobile warjack in your army, but just can't make it happen without breaking the rules of the game? Worry no more! If you take Sam & Devil Dogs, Sam is a Jack Marshall with a Drive: Reposition 5". Add on a Ranking Officer such as Attendant Priest or Murdoch, and now they are #FACTION# models instead of Mercenary models. Which means they can take Redeemers / Hunters / and give them Aim, The bonus aim damage marshall, AND reposition 5".
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I think you can do it with Valachev. I just don't know if it's worth doing to jack marshal a khadoran jack. Although the Marshal Aiming would stack well with a big AoE. Edit: It's probably not worth doing on anything anyways with the possible exception of a Redeemer [which is stupid when marshaled] but honestly, I just want to do weird poo poo like this for the sake of doing weird poo poo, rather than because it's some secret OP tech. Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Alpha Phoenix posted:I think you can do it with Valachev. I just don't know if it's worth doing to jack marshal a khadoran jack. Although the Marshal Aiming would stack well with a big AoE. Seems alright (?) with an Avenger, but then I've already got a couple Reposition solos in faction, sooooo
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Alpha Phoenix posted:I think you can do it with Valachev. I just don't know if it's worth doing to jack marshal a khadoran jack. Although the Marshal Aiming would stack well with a big AoE. He means you can't hire the devil dogs as khador.
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SpaceViking posted:He means you can't hire the devil dogs as khador. Oh gotcha, whoops. V Or that one town in Diablo. Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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AnElegantPeacock posted:How do you make a dude with a name like "Tristan" seem intimidating? Tristan isn't driving war jacks. He's woofing down orange slices at half time, getting a side stitch 5 minutes into the second half, falling over clutching his side before vomiting up said orange slices. His helicopter mom then immediately calls an ambulance because nothing like his has ever happened to poor perfect little Tristan before. Yep, definitely not a name associated with the majority of the most famous written work about knights...
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1 in 5 at journeyman today. No one let me set up the reaper pull->caster kill so I really didn't get anything. Menoth's BB is scary. Most of my losses are dice related (failed to kill an unbuffed Maddox on full focus stack for example). Agathia seems really weak compared to everyone else. Her feat was pretty much negated by everyone I fought. I wasn't expecting to go in and clean up but man did I do really poorly. Got my patch though.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Yep, definitely not a name associated with the majority of the most famous written work about knights... Nope. Definitely not. It is definitely the name most associated with violin practice, gluten intolerance and ADHD medication.
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AnElegantPeacock posted:Nope. Definitely not. It is definitely the name most associated with violin practice, gluten intolerance and ADHD medication. I've never even seen or met a kid named Tristan, I think you just have a complex around this. He's literally one of the most important and well known fictional knights that isn't King Artur or Lancelot.
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Okay, looking over the model ranges, I'm thinking Legion might be my favorites. Especially if I can get lots of stumpy, eyeless little guys and swarm the field in ugly-cuteness. What kinda color schemes do you think would go well with them?
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I've never even seen or met a kid named Tristan, I think you just have a complex around this. He's literally one of the most important and well known fictional knights that isn't King Artur or Lancelot. I think I'm joking about the stupid names millennials give their kids.
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The Bee posted:Okay, looking over the model ranges, I'm thinking Legion might be my favorites. Especially if I can get lots of stumpy, eyeless little guys and swarm the field in ugly-cuteness. Whatever is the most eye-blindingly garish, in my opinion! Make your opponent hate looking at the table.
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