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winegums posted:+1. The logistics of the voting are handled by ERS, who are an external body nothing to do with to the party. Don't know why they do it with 2 codes but every trade union or building society ballot I've had is exactly the same.
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Well I got an email from Ian McNicol telling me I can vote, as well as giving a rather suspect explanation for suspending all CLP meetings for the duration of the election. So that's.. good I guess. My girlfriend also gave me a copy of Leviathan which I am quite happy about as it looks pretty interesting. Also did anything important happen in the last two days/thousand posts? E: except the attack in France I know about that. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 15, 2016 |
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Worth noting that there's a progress slate as well as a CLGA slate, so if nothing else you know who not to vote for.
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Guavanaut posted:Why did they join Labour then? Labours always had a right wing mate. Remember Gaitskell
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OwlFancier posted:Well I got an email from Ian McNicol telling me I can vote, as well as giving a rather suspect explanation for suspending all CLP meetings for the duration of the election. What's the suspect explanation?
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Tesseraction posted:Highly skilled / white collar jobs. Doctors and lawyers down to computer janitors. C2 and below are manual labourers. Can someone explain to me why politics wonks love the NRS social grade but never seem to use the better and now ONS standard NS-SEC ?
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vodkat posted:Can someone explain to me why politics wonks love the NRS social grade but never seem to use the better and now ONS standard NS-SEC ?
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Jul 15, 2016 18:27
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Should I be concerned I've not received anything about the NEC elections yet? Union member. They're going on for a while, so don't worry.
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Dabir posted:What's the suspect explanation? quote:In recent months there has been a marked increase in reports of intimidation and threatening behaviour taking place at party meetings. Whilst the NEC recognises that the majority of our members hold vigorous yet collegiate meetings, the NEC has a duty of care for individuals who feel that their safety is threatened. It was therefore saddened to have to take the decision to suspend all normal party meetings at CLP and branch level until the completion of the leadership election.
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OwlFancier posted:My girlfriend also gave me a copy of Leviathan which I am quite happy about as it looks pretty interesting. It's good poo poo and very fascinating.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Should I be concerned I've not received anything about the NEC elections yet? Union member. I don't think Union members get to vote, only actual Party members?
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Pages back so I can't find who quoted it, but the level of shock in reaction to Boris being called a liar over the EU money thing seems very much equivalent to that for accusations of racism. When did that start? Certainly before I was politically conscious, because it's always struck me as weird that even when someone is caught blatantly telling untruths it's considered a much graver sin in political circles to drop the L-bomb.
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So I emailed the chap in charge of my CLP and apparently we have permission to carry on with our meetings just fine?  Maybe we're a good, well behaved blairite CLP. Guess I'll know when I go along. My constituency is one of the safest Tory seats that's ever existed, so maybe everyone there is so jaded and apathetic to be completely non-threatening.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Should I be concerned I've not received anything about the NEC elections yet? Union member. When did you join? They stopped people being eligible to vote if they joined in the last six months so they can't vote Corbyn and ruin everything.
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Dabir posted:What's the suspect explanation? quote:Following this week's meeting of Labour's National Executive Committee, I can now confirm the full timetable for the Leadership Election, and the role you can play in it. I don't entirely see why if people are being threatened at CLP meetings then suspending them purely for the duration of the leadership election will have a great deal of effect. Especially as it's still OK to hold them for supporting candidates in the election. It seems a little transparent.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't entirely see why if people are being threatened at CLP meetings then suspending them purely for the duration of the leadership election will have a great deal of effect. Especially as it's still OK to hold them for supporting candidates in the election. It's to prevent motions of no confidence and AGMs, because lol at any Blairite committees staying in power at the moment. And it means executive committees will appoint delegates to conference, not CLPs, which means no democratic vote. It means Blairite CLPs will appoint conference delegates.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't entirely see why if people are being threatened at CLP meetings then suspending them purely for the duration of the leadership election will have a great deal of effect. Especially as it's still OK to hold them for supporting candidates in the election. It is a little transparent.
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thespaceinvader posted:It is a little transparent. It's bloody obvious is what it is
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The funniest thing about the fact that they're allowing CLP meetings to vote on endorsing candidates is that if you take their concerns about menacing Corbynites at face value, those are the meetings most likely to be acrimonious and result in intimidation and fear. edit: By the way, why has "Corbynista" become the nomenclature of choice to describe Corbyn's supporters? At least "Sandernista" is funny and makes sense. "Corbynista" just smacks of the people who add "gate" to every scandal.
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I've heard "Corbynite" a lot before Sanders became a thing, I imagine people are trying to draw comparisons between the two.
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Jul 15, 2016 18:53
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Jeremy and the Corbynauts imo
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Jul 15, 2016 18:56
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Been made before but I choose to believe that Corbynite is intentionally the super invincibility shield from Star Trek Armada 2.
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Cor, Bennites.
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Heisenberg1276 posted:Rhea Wolfson Done, and repeating for the new pages. Thought I was out but turned out I joined in October or November so can have my say after all.
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Baron Corbyn posted:edit: By the way, why has "Corbynista" become the nomenclature of choice to describe Corbyn's supporters? At least "Sandernista" is funny and makes sense. "Corbynista" just smacks of the people who add "gate" to every scandal. Cadence, maybe. It's got a nice fluid rhythm to it.
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Jul 15, 2016 19:08
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I prefer Corbronies.
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someone's rented the vote leave lie-bus & done it up again in replica prints for a film or something https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/lets-take-back-control-of-the-steering-wheel?utm_term=.hy6ePLQzN#.nj1zJbXnx
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i just assumed it was a pejorative suffix so of course it gets used lots
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Corbynions
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copywriting the phrase 'corboys' to reap in thousands as the concern trolling machine starts up
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I never thought about how the guy that owned the bus felt about the situation
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Dead Goon posted:When did you join? Years ago. I got a ballot from my union for the last NEC election (they decide their block vote based on it), so I'm not actually 100% sure if that's still the case or if I get to vote directly like I do for leader.
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The bus should just continue to be driven around, as is, for the next two decades while the country descends and people realise what they've done. Without stopping. Without fuel. Without a driver.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Years ago. I got a ballot from my union for the last NEC election (they decide their block vote based on it), so I'm not actually 100% sure if that's still the case or if I get to vote directly like I do for leader. Don't they normally roll them out over the course of a week or so? I just got my email and it says the ballot is open until 5th August. I haven't got a paper copy yet.
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quote:Kate Green, who is co-chairing Smith’s campaign, said that an increasing number of MPs were deciding to support him. “The reason I’m backing Owen, and have done since he decided to run, is because we are united in believing that the overriding purpose of the Labour party – to win elections and secure power – requires us … to find the very best candidate who can unite the party, offer clear leadership, and set us on the road back to power.” The only purpose of the Labour party is to attain power for MPs, it doesn't matter what you do with that power or that you do anything with it all. An inspiring vision for the future.
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Just gonna get on my computer and see about cooking up a giant effortpost on the NEC candidates. Just some cursory details I've googled, since I'm not a specialist in backroom party politics, but hopefully it'll be handy.
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why is everyone voting for caroline shawcroft
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Renaissance Robot posted:Pages back so I can't find who quoted it, but the level of shock in reaction to Boris being called a liar over the EU money thing seems very much equivalent to that for accusations of racism. When did that start? Certainly before I was politically conscious, because it's always struck me as weird that even when someone is caught blatantly telling untruths it's considered a much graver sin in political circles to drop the L-bomb. Yeah, I've noticed before that politicians in particular are very unlikely to call out others directly on telling untruths. It's always "failed to deliver on promises", "didn't match up to reality" and similar stuff. I wonder how effective it would be for an opposition member to stand up and call someone in government a liar outright. It's probably unparliamentary language.
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Baron Corbyn posted:The funniest thing about the fact that they're allowing CLP meetings to vote on endorsing candidates is that if you take their concerns about menacing Corbynites at face value, those are the meetings most likely to be acrimonious and result in intimidation and fear. I suspect it's because the generic rightist sneer term for lefties is 'Guardianista'.
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