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SpacePig posted:Yeah, a state's right to force another state to extradite an escaped slave so that it could be punished under their laws instead of those of the state escaped to. Even if "states' rights" was a 100% full and accurate explanation of the motives for the Civil War, every right they were fighting for was centered around slavery. Why don't people seem to be able to grasp that? Same with misogyny - there are laws against discrimination, women are allowed to be president or prime minister or CEOs. But people (men and women) subconsciously hold women in lower esteem, and it manifests in lower pay, fewer top positions, etc. Point this out to anyone and they'll tell you it's because women don't want those things, as if a system that fails to reward women for what they want is OK. Thread relevant example of sub-surface misogyny - the Ghost Busters movie. Check the comments under those Facebook ads, and people are...weirdly angrier than they ought to be. I mean reboots have been a thing since Tim Burton's Batman, and have been a large proportion of every drat movie released this century. Yet no one has quite as pissed as with Ghost Busters, and they swear it's just because it's not a very good film.
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They're surprised if you spend an entire lifetime telling a growing girl she should be a Cook or Wedding Planner that she isn't automatically going to choose engineering when she gets to college. People usually pick to what they're cultivated/interested in doing as children. It's also an annoying chicken/egg problem when it comes to pink toys. Some would say pink toys are popular because girls want them, but they want them because that's what is always marketed and given to them by family/friends that just "understand" girls get pink toys or whatever. (sorry for being lovely debate subforum lite, I'll be the IoSM) It's just mainly annoying that so many MRAs feel threatened by feminism while also acting like men are naturally better at everything. You can't do both!
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As an adult, I can look at the whole Disney Princess thing and be kind of appalled. But I know that as a little girl, I'd have been all over that poo poo.
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^^^^^ I've got a 4 year old daughter, so I can tell you it's all still there, but there really does seem to be an effort to make them more than helpless empty vessels now, e.g. Frozen, and Brave (who 'doesn't need a prince cos she's a bow and arrow princess' :-) ). Ularg posted:They're surprised if you spend an entire lifetime telling a growing girl she should be a Cook or Wedding Planner that she isn't automatically going to choose engineering when she gets to college. People usually pick to what they're cultivated/interested in doing as children. It's also an annoying chicken/egg problem when it comes to pink toys. Some would say pink toys are popular because girls want them, but they want them because that's what is always marketed and given to them by family/friends that just "understand" girls get pink toys or whatever. I don't believe for a second that girls are naturally into pink stuff. The evidence of that would be visible throughout history and across cultures. I mean poo poo, pink isn't even really a colour (it's a shade of red). Kids at some point start seeking identity, and we give them all the gender cues they need for them to latch onto. As a parent you can try and avoid it, but short of never letting them interact with anyone or go outside, they're going to find those cues. A lot of girls realise it's bullshit when they get older, and start getting into the cool boy stuff they missed out on. For whatever reason, it doesn't really happen the other way round. Perhaps it's because of the association of women with weakness and men with strength. That seems to carry on into adulthood in MRAs, who have avoided 'girly' stuff all their lives, and now feel like it's being forced on them. The irony of course is that all that's happening is that stuff is becoming more equal. I can't remember the source, but the best tweet I saw on the Ghost Busters thing was along the lines of 'you think Ghost Busters ruined your childhood, growing up having to choose between 5 or 6 movies with strong female leads ruined mine'. EvilGenius has a new favorite as of 20:10 on Jul 15, 2016 |
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Jul 15, 2016 20:03
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As I've gotten older I've wanted to get nice haircuts, and still want to try a manicure and pedicure. I feel like they'd be hella relaxing.
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Jul 15, 2016 20:12
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I learned to cook and do my own laundry in my 20's. I'm a feminist ally doing my part to smash the patriarchy.
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Jul 15, 2016 20:16
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I usually buy pink stuff (pens, bottle openers, whatever) because I found nobody steals them. I thought about a pink wallet but that's going too far for me.
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I'll admit as a small boy I spent just as much time with LEGOs and action figures as I did with a shopping center doll set, mainly because I was always interested in pretending to own a business and pink toys were the closest thing to that before The Sims. If I'd got The Sims as a kid I knew I'd be all over that. Instead I was really into Animal Crossing for house/land decoration and also spent a large amount of time in Star Wars Galaxies making my player buildings look fabulous from head to toe.
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Jul 15, 2016 20:18
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Boywhiz88 posted:As I've gotten older I've wanted to get nice haircuts, and still want to try a manicure and pedicure. I feel like they'd be hella relaxing. You should go try it. They're a lot of fun and totes relaxing.
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Mu Zeta posted:I usually buy pink stuff (pens, bottle openers, whatever) because I found nobody steals them. I used to have a wonderful gay porn lighter I bought for this exact reason. Hold it in your hand for like thirty seconds, the fireman's pants disappeared and it was boner city. May have been the only lighter I ever had that I had to replace because it ran out of fuel, not because someone accidentally pocketed it.
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Boywhiz88 posted:As I've gotten older I've wanted to get nice haircuts, and still want to try a manicure and pedicure. I feel like they'd be hella relaxing. My gf and I go to the salon and get mani/pedis together. poo poo is the best. You're depriving yourself if you never go.
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Part of my anxiety is being unable to do anything that could be seen as unmanly. Mainly because the first people to give me poo poo for it are my parents. Like I was given poo poo because I was playing one of the women characters in Rayman Legends. My family is just really controlling about what they want people to be based off their preconceptions. Like getting poo poo once they found out my favorite thing to do in Star Wars Galaxies was the house decorating and not Lightsaber battles or something.
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Jul 15, 2016 20:58
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Gaunab posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/LLsSR Yup. I figured it was Friday so "gently caress it" and waded in to talk about the race issues in America. Some of the replies I got made my skin crawl. There are a lot of racists on imgur. More than I might have guessed. Lots of comments about how the black race is violent by nature, really creepy early 1900's deep south style poo poo. I think imgur just earned YouTube status never read the comments.
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I'm sure no one cares, but there's one guy adamantly defending imgur's racism and I think this is the perfect summary of the topic; Guys, it's unfair for black people to decide when we're being racist to them.
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I'm insecure about doing effeminate things because I have social anxiety and am terrified of being judged in public.
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Ularg posted:Part of my anxiety is being unable to do anything that could be seen as unmanly. Mainly because the first people to give me poo poo for it are my parents. Like I was given poo poo because I was playing one of the women characters in Rayman Legends. My family is just really controlling about what they want people to be based off their preconceptions. Like getting poo poo once they found out my favorite thing to do in Star Wars Galaxies was the house decorating and not Lightsaber battles or something. Don't worry, you'll soon discover how to get past you're mental block and become a beautiful crossdresser.
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Jul 15, 2016 23:33
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I do kickbacks and leg lifts in the gym. Who cares if it's effeminate? These glutes don't work themselves.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Don't worry, you'll soon discover how to get past you're mental block and become a beautiful crossdresser. I hope you'll be there to tell me if this skirt looks good on me or not.
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Crow Jane posted:I used to have a wonderful gay porn lighter I bought for this exact reason. Hold it in your hand for like thirty seconds, the fireman's pants disappeared and it was boner city. May have been the only lighter I ever had that I had to replace because it ran out of fuel, not because someone accidentally pocketed it. poo poo, I'd have stolen that in an instant and I don't eve smoke. Indolent Bastard posted:Yup. I figured it was Friday so "gently caress it" and waded in to talk about the race issues in America. Some of the replies I got made my skin crawl. There are a lot of racists on imgur. More than I might have guessed. Lots of comments about how the black race is violent by nature, really creepy early 1900's deep south style poo poo. I think imgur just earned YouTube status never read the comments. Welcome to :imgur:. Just imagine that is an emote that alternates between boobs and racism/sexism
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Boywhiz88 posted:As I've gotten older I've wanted to get nice haircuts, and still want to try a manicure and pedicure. I feel like they'd be hella relaxing. Same here. For some reason watching hands do stuff has always been calming for me (I honestly don't understand why this is; I'll just get this really good feeling from watching a video of some zoomed in hands working on something), and combining that with the human contact aspect of manicures/pedicures makes them seem like they'd be very pleasant.
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The idea of someone else trimming my toenails freaks me out ever since a friend of mine got a pedicure as a whim and they somehow cut up under his toenail and made him bleed. Blech
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Aesop Poprock posted:The idea of someone else trimming my toenails freaks me out ever since a friend of mine got a pedicure as a whim and they somehow cut up under his toenail and made him bleed. Blech Is your friend a dog?
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Jul 16, 2016 02:08
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Is your friend a dog? All dogs are friends
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Aesop Poprock posted:All dogs are friends Like my white trash neighbor's dog who's been barking at, apparently, air, since about 4pm this evening (it's 10:44pm). I'm sure it's just announcing HELLO FRIEND! HELLO FRIEND! HELLO FRIEND!
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EvilGenius posted:reboots have been a thing since Tim Burton's Batman EvilGenius posted:pink isn't even really a colour (it's a shade of red). 
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Tiggum posted:Much longer than that. Cultures whose languages don't have distinct words for "green" and "blue" actually do consider them to be the same color. Ditto for yellow and orange.
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All colors are wrong, abandon your prismatic ways The path is grey 
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Pink was considered a boys' color, and blue a girls' color, in the English-speaking world until the 20th century.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Pink was considered a boys' color, and blue a girls' color, in the English-speaking world until the 20th century. Not exactly; the "pink" for boys wasn't the pastel that we think of now, but a more bright, redder color, and generally there wasn't a real gender separation in color. (The bright pink was considered unsuitable for ladytypes because it was too exciting and I guess would make them swoon or something.)
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Colours don't actually have penises or vaginas. But penises and vaginas do have colours. What a world!
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Pink was actively promoted as more suitable for boys until after World War I, according to the Smithsonian. I know all of these articles use the same few citations from Ladies' Home Journal, Earnshaw's Infants Department Newsletter, and Time Magazine, but if you look at color ads from the era you'll see it represented there. And it's absolutely what we'd call pink today, though a little more orange than bubble-gum pink.
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Picnic Princess posted:Colours don't actually have penises or vaginas. But penises and vaginas do have colours. What a world! Someone clearly hasn't read Black and Blue Gayed Me Through and Through, the latest Chuck Tingle masterpiece.
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Plom Bar posted:Cultures whose languages don't have distinct words for "green" and "blue" actually do consider them to be the same color. Ditto for yellow and orange. What cultures don't have distinct words for green and blue?
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 from here: http://unsolved.com/archives/edgar-cayce
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Karma Monkey posted:What cultures don't have distinct words for green and blue? Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnamese all use the same character (青) to represent both. These languages also have separate, more recent terms, to refer to blue and green, but most of them have only been used recently (Japan only started differentiating the two in schools after World War II, for instance), and if that word is used, the actual colour intended has to be inferred. This concept is actually so common that there's an entire wikipedia article on it.
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Inco posted:Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnamese all use the same character (青) to represent both. These languages also have separate, more recent terms, to refer to blue and green, but most of them have only been used recently (Japan only started differentiating the two in schools after World War II, for instance), and if that word is used, the actual colour intended has to be inferred. Yeah well that's why that plaque up on the moon is in English, not Chinese.
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