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Plan Z posted:I've always wondered since I was a little kid why Romans/Italians catch no blame for it whatsoever. The placement of the Vatican probably has something to do with it. Because Pontius Pilate, while being basically a villain, acted upon the demands of Jewish patriarchs, with no desire of his own to persecute Jesus. The phrase "to wash one's hands over something" remains one of the most loaded, controversial idioms in any European language, with people arguing over its virtue / implicit admission of guilt to this day.
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steinrokkan posted:I work for a Polish company, and my boss has never brought up any conspiracy theory. I should quit! The first conspiracy theory I got told while I was in Poland for nine months was a somewhat convoluted one about France taking over the Polish internet for geopolitical purposes.  No Jews involved unless I missed an implication about the owners of the French telecom company in question (which was partnered with my favorite Polish oligarch).
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GreyjoyBastard posted:The first conspiracy theory I got told while I was in Poland for nine months was a somewhat convoluted one about France taking over the Polish internet for geopolitical purposes. Was it about TP SA fusing with Orange?
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Aumanor posted:Was it about TP SA fusing with Orange? Sounds right. Two big telecom companies, one of which was French... might have been just TALKING mergers at the time?
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A Pale Horse posted:I don't really watch TV anymore but this came across my facebook feed. This reminds me of an old poll some pranksters ran in the 1990s. They'd phone people and ask them "so if you look at a calendar, you'll notice that New Year's Day 2000 will fall on a Friday the 13th. Does that seem like an ill omen to you?" and they of course got more answers along the lines of "yes" or "no, I'm not superstitious" than of people noticing the contradiction in the premise.
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Plan Z posted:I've always wondered since I was a little kid why Romans/Italians catch no blame for it whatsoever. The placement of the Vatican probably has something to do with it. Because those converted. The drat Jews, however, did not! 
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I don't have anything to add but ballistic missile chat means I have an excuse to post links to sick videos of Sprint ABM. Mach 10 in 5 seconds from launch!
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Jul 13, 2016 17:51
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Good job, BM. https://twitter.com/NadavPollak/status/753572125831680000
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Jul 14, 2016 13:58
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What is he talking about. E: I see, pokémans steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Jul 14, 2016 15:31
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I can't wait for BM to uncover ironclad evidence of some new Russian operation or rebel atrocity because everyone involved posted their pokemon go finds. "Hey I found a rare pokemon in this mass grave me and my friends just dug PS here's our vehicle in the background, clear unit marks, and our passports" which of course would result in a snarky article from RT saying none of this can be taken as evidence because since when are children's video games used as in war crimes trials maybe BM should go back to his video games and let a real journalist investigate.
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Jul 14, 2016 15:32
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I guess no Mew-Twos for Jews.
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Xerxes17 posted:I guess no Mew-Twos for Jews. Well... Absurd Alhazred posted:Serious update from President Reuven Rivlin:
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Jul 14, 2016 16:12
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See if you can coordinate with Niantic/Pokemon Company to accelerate releases in Ukraine/Russia. Make the Kremlin a gym. Also the area just outside the gate of Ecuador's London embassy.
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Discendo Vox posted:See if you can coordinate with Niantic/Pokemon Company to accelerate releases in Ukraine/Russia. Make the Kremlin a gym. Also the area just outside the gate of Ecuador's London embassy. Peskov was actually recently asked whether or not there are pokemon in the Kremlin. He said that he didn't know, because the game isn't out yet. This is real.
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No, back in 2000 we all died and this is just our brains creating a delusional fantasy world until we realize the impossible absurdity of it all and vanish.
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Waiting for somebody to discover an unguarded cache of Soviet nuclear material searching for Jynx in Siberian wastes.
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 Informative! BM, what are the odds that some of these people are genuinely independent of the state propaganda apparatus and are just drinking the kool-aid? *edited to not hotlink the propaganda blog, now that I've thought the consequences through Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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steinrokkan posted:So, since you seem to be in the know about how those sites fit into the propaganda networ, any idea how many people actually read them? You can check the number of friends livejournal bloggers have on their profile page. If it's less than a thousand - divide it by two, if it's more than a thousand - multiply it by two, if it's over ten thousand - multiply by ten. E: the number of comments is also very telling, but I'm too lazy to factor it into some meaningful formula. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Discendo Vox posted:
Well they released their articles all around the same time, using a lot of the same language, even spelling my name wrong the same way in some cases, so it's likely co-ordinated, and we've seen other examples of the same sites releasing stories on other topics all at the same time, so there's a pattern of behaviour there.
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Jul 15, 2016 05:13
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GG Brown Moses. Ya got Putin'd.
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Are you in Turkey right now Brown Moses? Looks like things are getting exciting?
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Brown Moses being in Turkey during the coup will hardly help the CIA conspiracy theories - even though I feel Russians are in favour of the coup, popularly.
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Brown Moses is the coup. Enjoy your new position as Ataturk II: Electric Boogaloo, BM!
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Discendo Vox posted:Brown Moses is the coup. Enjoy your new position as Ataturk II: Electric Boogaloo, BM!
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Discendo Vox posted:Brown Moses is the coup. Enjoy your new position as Ataturk II: Electric Boogaloo, BM! 
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steinrokkan posted:Brown Moses being in Turkey during the coup will hardly help the CIA conspiracy theories - even though I feel Russians are in favour of the coup, popularly. Brown Moses will be the reason why the coup failed.
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AceRimmer posted:Goon Paradox LPs are getting seriously out of control. Breaking: Turkish President Brown Moses presses 'Form Byzantium' button, all Turkish flags immediately turn purple.
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Jul 16, 2016 05:50
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So Brown Moses is now named in two threads' titles. I wonder how long before he becomes an integral part of the Brexit process.
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Constant Hamprince posted:Breaking: Turkish President Brown Moses presses 'Form Byzantium' button, all Turkish flags immediately turn purple.
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steinrokkan posted:Brown Moses being in Turkey during the coup will hardly help the CIA conspiracy theories - even though I feel Russians are in favour of the coup, popularly. I think a weakened but still in charge Erdogan is a good thing for Russia, actually. Putting the old Kemalists back in charge would be bad for them
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Yeah, they're very publicly buddies now after Turkey backpedaled on the downed fighter plane business. Staging a coup would most likely just replace Erdogan with someone they don't have leverage on.
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anilEhilated posted:Yeah, they're very publicly buddies now after Turkey backpedaled on the downed fighter plane business. Staging a coup would most likely just replace Erdogan with someone they don't have leverage on. Had the coup succeeded, they'd claim it was a western homonazi plot and invade Eastern Turkey to "protect the local population".
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mobby_6kl posted:Had the coup succeeded, they'd claim it was a western homonazi plot and invade Eastern Turkey to "protect the local population". Well, considering the local population were rounded up and murdered by the ideological forefathers of the coup people that's not an unreasonable argument
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mobby_6kl posted:Had the coup succeeded, they'd claim it was a western homonazi plot and invade Eastern Turkey to "protect the local population". This still might happen even with the failure of the coup. If you haven't been following, Turkey just cut the power to İncirlik air base and Erdogan just indirectly threatened the U.S. with war.
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Young Freud posted:This still might happen even with the failure of the coup. If you haven't been following, Turkey just cut the power to İncirlik air base and Erdogan just indirectly threatened the U.S. with war. please source this, I need a laugh right now
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skipThings posted:please source this, I need a laugh right now https://twitter.com/CNN/status/754312742455115776 https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/754300816350216193 For clarification: Gulen's a guy whose living in exile in the United States. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Kerry said the US would 'entertain' an extradition request, which basically means letting a US court tell Erdogan no instead of saying it directly; there's no way Turkey has probable cause sufficient to overcome a writ of habeas corpus.
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