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Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

I sorted the leaderboard by quickplay for damage per minute. And the top damage-per-minute players in the goddamn world are listed as top 59%.

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Brannock posted:

I love that every time a stat tracking website gets involved in a game discussion dozens of goons come out and demonstrate a shockingly weak comprehension of how statistics and numbers work

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I sorted the leaderboard by quickplay for damage per minute. And the top damage-per-minute players in the goddamn world are listed as top 59%.

fix it up already

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Lovely Senorita posted:

fix it up already

I dunno why you think I'm saying the obviously broken website isn't broken

I'm talking about the goons talking about how your flat numbers can be inflated and that this totally explains why everyone is world-class in a certain stat and trash-tier in another

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
If you're shooting shields it will add both accuracy and damage. Pharah shooting a shield with her rockets will count for a direct hit.

If you have huge accuracy and damage output but no eliminations it means you're probably shooting lots of shields, where someone with low damage and high eliminations/accuracy is probably actually killing people.

You also have to remember that Seagull's accuracy is against people in equivalent tier, so while they're bouncing and zipping around he's hitting them as well as you're hitting people in your tier.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Brannock posted:

I dunno why you think I'm saying the obviously broken website isn't broken

I'm talking about the goons talking about how your flat numbers can be inflated and that this totally explains why everyone is world-class in a certain stat and trash-tier in another

oh gotcha

the website is bad and there's no way I'm the most(ly) accurate Pharah

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Commoners posted:

If you're shooting shields it will add both accuracy and damage. Pharah shooting a shield with her rockets will count for a direct hit.

If you have huge accuracy and damage output but no eliminations it means you're probably shooting lots of shields, where someone with low damage and high eliminations/accuracy is probably actually killing people.

You also have to remember that Seagull's accuracy is against people in equivalent tier, so while they're bouncing and zipping around he's hitting them as well as you're hitting people in your tier.

The top damage per minute players in the world are not even breaking into the site's top half. It is broken.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Commoners posted:

If you're shooting shields it will add both accuracy and damage. Pharah shooting a shield with her rockets will count for a direct hit.

If you have huge accuracy and damage output but no eliminations it means you're probably shooting lots of shields, where someone with low damage and high eliminations/accuracy is probably actually killing people.

You also have to remember that Seagull's accuracy is against people in equivalent tier, so while they're bouncing and zipping around he's hitting them as well as you're hitting people in your tier.

look, the thing is frickin' busted if you didn't look at the pictures I posted off of my own dang profile

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
You'd be surprised

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
Well it also helps that whatever algorithm they're using for damage done can mark people at 33,000 damage per minute and 45 eliminations per minute on a character they're playing, but saying that you're in the top 4% of Pharah rocket accuracy with 52% while not doing tons of damage isn't unreasonable at all. Even if you're just barely scratching people with the splash damage it is considered a hit.

I'm not defending the site because it definitely has extreme inconsistencies all over the place, but it is perfectly believable that 52% accuracy puts you in the top 10,000 people shooting rockets around.

Commoners fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 16, 2016

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
A fun thing to do when your team is either refusing to run a tank/support or all going Torb themselves when they're mad you're playing Torb on attack is to switch to something like 76 until the last second of the countdown and then go back to Torb. I had a few guys go nuts on me after doing this, to the point where their yelling and swearing brought my wife to the room wondering what the gently caress I was watching/listening to.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

https://gfycat.com/FaithfulRevolvingDungbeetle Well that's a hell of a weird hook.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
"The Legion pre-patch has been announced for July 19th.

Me and many others were only playing this frustrating game because we literally had nothing else to play until the August time when several new games get released.

Clocked in 45 hours, and had about 350 games in Overwatch, but I'm done. I was always in a love-hate relationship with the game and had minimal fun, just the right amount of fun to not make me uninstall the game, but also to not see myself playing it through August.

But now we're getting something else to play, and can leave Overwatch to the fanboys.

Cheers."

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747234682

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
It's reassuring to know that the Battlenet forums have remained consistently terrible since the days of Starcraft 1.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
do you not understand that if you kill mercy then kill her allies you will do way less damage overall than if you keep firing into a team as mercy keeps them healed up (possibly not even killing them)

also damage per minute is a stat that favors games that involve players trickling (bad) into something rather than games w/ punctuated, organized pushes (good)

Zoness fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jul 16, 2016

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
also afaik rocket jumps count against your accuracy and a lot of high level pharah players (from watching ster's stream or competitive matches) will spam at a choke that enemies would have to move through to force them to wait for a reinhardt

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Hitting shields counts towards your accuracy as well so direct hits is a meaningless statistic

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Accuracy is a bad stat since infinite ammo means you should be spamming constantly anyway.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Andrast posted:

Accuracy is a bad stat since infinite ammo means you should be spamming constantly anyway.

:agreed: but thank you game for putting up a post game award for a whopping 19% accuracy for all to see instead of my 4 gold medal or 40k damage :argh:

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7c9IiczwgQ

TheresaJayne
Jul 1, 2011

Genji was being a ninja and reflected the arrow

TheresaJayne
Jul 1, 2011
I wish i could make AMVs but i would suck, but for those who are good at them try some of these songs....

Mercy - https://play.spotify.com/track/3x8NmT98rGcerSiWTIgCqL

Junkrat - https://play.spotify.com/track/5w1EMrFZwPHInAqPr5h40S

Soldier 76 - https://play.spotify.com/track/6YHpaawV0C88rwt2bQE6jV

Zaynetta & Bastion - https://play.spotify.com/track/5eqZWYQ5tbIehx00NeKXz7

Mei - https://play.spotify.com/track/493CPxYEHHzXeSdnp8Ul73 or even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

McCree - https://play.spotify.com/track/1RKUoGiLEbcXN4GY4spQDx (what else could you really do)

not sure about these ones but here goes

Tracer - https://play.spotify.com/track/0DpQtutNyXDzV8q9jcR1WO

Widowmaker - https://play.spotify.com/track/78OFWRrrAFKJF9LwTeemck

reinhardt - https://play.spotify.com/track/021ZiadcsPt1lOY55OeqFJ

pharah - https://play.spotify.com/track/1mCpEOJpwgE862QL88oRs3

TheresaJayne fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jul 16, 2016

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
McCree's should be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht7mxF9XZiA

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I very much enjoy making Spotify playlists for Overwatch, but I've just posted about them in the meimei thread so far. Here's one with a track for every character: https://goo.gl/SpCscn

I picked "Apache" by The Shadows for McCree, although most people will be more familiar with this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjiU2YAlYKY

TheresaJayne
Jul 1, 2011

Mierenneuker posted:

I very much enjoy making Spotify playlists for Overwatch, but I've just posted about them in the meimei thread so far. Here's one with a track for every character: https://goo.gl/SpCscn

I picked "Apache" by The Shadows for McCree, although most people will be more familiar with this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjiU2YAlYKY

was expecting this version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQObWW06VAM

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Help I can't stop solo queueing comp as Torb and it's somehow working out because I've gone from 44-52 in two daysahhhhh

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

torb is pretty strong. he's a bit like genji except his dash move makes a turret instead and his shurikens have a slight arc

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Lovely Senorita posted:

oh gotcha

the website is bad and there's no way I'm the most(ly) accurate Pharah



Check out my sick D.VA stats! (I don't believe I am anywhere near this qualified as any character)

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Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Bill NYSE posted:

Check out my sick D.VA stats! (I don't believe I am anywhere near this qualified as any character)



Unbelievable.
And they expect to BUFF this OVERPOWERED GARBAGE. :argh:

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Haha my Reaper is even more insane. What the gently caress.
Definitely missing out on a large percentage of actual players to compare against with statistics.

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Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Mierenneuker posted:

I very much enjoy making Spotify playlists for Overwatch, but I've just posted about them in the meimei thread so far. Here's one with a track for every character: https://goo.gl/SpCscn

I picked "Apache" by The Shadows for McCree, although most people will be more familiar with this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjiU2YAlYKY

Way to pick the worst version. This is clearly the superior one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tnj7IEI0E

Anyway, Zarya would probably go for something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c1lT_HgJNo

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.

Bill NYSE posted:

Haha my Reaper is even more insane. What the gently caress.
Definitely missing out on a large percentage of actual players to compare against with statistics.



Just to clarify, being in the 3rd percentile means the bottom three percent of players, not the top three. Top 97% means that there are only 3% of players with a lower stat there. I'm not saying that the site is accurate, but I got the impression that you might have thought it was the other way around. Sorry if that's not the case.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

SadisTech posted:

Just to clarify, being in the 3rd percentile means the bottom three percent of players, not the top three. Top 97% means that there are only 3% of players with a lower stat there. I'm not saying that the site is accurate, but I got the impression that you might have thought it was the other way around. Sorry if that's not the case.

Quite aware of that, just uncertain that 13% is honestly that terrible compared to some of the other players I have been matched against using Reaper.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
I find myself enjoying PTR more than I have ever enjoyed overwatch. Every single game I've played since the Ana patch, everyone has been cool and chill. Some dude snaplocks Hanzo and says I HAVE NEVER PLAYED HIM BEFORE and everyone says it's cool man, gotta learn sometime. I play Genji for like the third time, fail miserably at everything, and the enemy team's McCree gives me tips on how to reflect Deadeye better. Enemy Winston jumps off a cliff accidentally and both teams are yukking it up friendly-like in map chat. Some rear end in a top hat starts screaming WHY DO WE HAVE TWO ANAS and everyone tells him to gently caress off. I wish Live was like this.

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494

One more source showing you cannot melee cancel the reload time on Reaper, just the animation. Is there any reason this perception is still around? Does the animation prevent anything that this let's you get around?

The no damage on scoped Ana reflects is probably a bug, I'd be surprised if that wasn't fixed.

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

Soothing Vapors posted:

I find myself enjoying PTR more than I have ever enjoyed overwatch. Every single game I've played since the Ana patch, everyone has been cool and chill. Some dude snaplocks Hanzo and says I HAVE NEVER PLAYED HIM BEFORE and everyone says it's cool man, gotta learn sometime. I play Genji for like the third time, fail miserably at everything, and the enemy team's McCree gives me tips on how to reflect Deadeye better. Enemy Winston jumps off a cliff accidentally and both teams are yukking it up friendly-like in map chat. Some rear end in a top hat starts screaming WHY DO WE HAVE TWO ANAS and everyone tells him to gently caress off. I wish Live was like this.

fuk u fgt

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Onean posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494

One more source showing you cannot melee cancel the reload time on Reaper, just the animation. Is there any reason this perception is still around? Does the animation prevent anything that this let's you get around?

It gives you a tiny bit of extra damage in circumstances where you otherwise can't fire back, which can be useful in close range battles (where Reaper tends to live).

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

nerve posted:

fuk u fgt

ty friend, I am ready to face live quick play again now

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.

Vermain posted:

It gives you a tiny bit of extra damage in circumstances where you otherwise can't fire back, which can be useful in close range battles (where Reaper tends to live).

That makes sense, though I don't think it's unique to Reaper, is it?

Edit: Also, here's an upload of the Ster stream with Blizzard devs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3N4P-83G-U

Onean fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 16, 2016

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Lovely Senorita posted:

does your accuracy look like mine

being super accurate with pharah means you're not firing anywhere near enough rockets

fire more rockets

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piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



Man I don't even want to play live instead of PTR anymore. The changes on PTR just feel so much more fun.

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