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Gen I was a mess but I'm curious how far they were in development when they decided to make a sequel afterward. Because sometimes it feels like the game was made from the ground up expecting a second entry to add more things.
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I have a soft spot for Twinneedle since it could poison steel types in Gen 2 due to an oversight. Also I'd always raise a Beedrill in Gen 1 to curbstomp Sabrina's gym.
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Jul 17, 2016 03:24
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Theta Zero posted:Gen I was a mess but I'm curious how far they were in development when they decided to make a sequel afterward. Because sometimes it feels like the game was made from the ground up expecting a second entry to add more things. Gen 1 and gen 2 both had very long development cycles. It's probable that many features introduced in gen 2 had been designed during gen 1's development, but not implemented due to technical or budgetary limitations. It's known that programming assistance from Satoru Iwata was necessary to get a lot of what was intended for gen 2 to fit on a cartridge and get the game out the door (late though it was). It might be useful to think of gen 1 as a proof of concept and gen 2 as a prototype for the game, which would reach version 1.0 only with generation 3.
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Jul 17, 2016 03:34
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If I have time before Sun/Moon (which is unlikely, I admit) I want to play through one of the Gen V games. Any strong reason I should do B/W over B2/W2 or vice-versa?
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Jul 17, 2016 03:47
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MockingQuantum posted:If I have time before Sun/Moon (which is unlikely, I admit) I want to play through one of the Gen V games. Any strong reason I should do B/W over B2/W2 or vice-versa? bw2 is an explicit sequel to bw and they actually tried to make a decent story for once with those so that's worth keeping in mind
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Jul 17, 2016 03:52
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MockingQuantum posted:If I have time before Sun/Moon (which is unlikely, I admit) I want to play through one of the Gen V games. Any strong reason I should do B/W over B2/W2 or vice-versa? B/W has only 5th gen Pokemon until the end-game. The gym leaders are all really interesting and even your two friends are pretty cool. The sequels start you off in a new town and adds new gyms, so you explore the region differently. The friends from the first game have grown up a bit and one is now a gym leader. You also have access to older Pokemon from pretty early in the game.
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Jul 17, 2016 04:06
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Nessa posted:B/W has only 5th gen Pokemon until the end-game. The gym leaders are all really interesting and even your two friends are pretty cool. Hmm I'd definitely do one of the first two then. I heard there's a bunch more exclusive Pokemon to White because of some forest or something; is it really that big of a difference? Given that I've bee playing Gen VI games I have a Pokemon Bank full of early gen pokes.
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Jul 17, 2016 04:10
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I'm playing through Yellow (VC port) again for the first time since like the 6th grade and I completely forgot you had to manually fuckin' change the PC storage box number. Maybe I'm just a spoiled brat but Gen 1 is borderline unplayably bad in the quality-of-life department compared to almost any of the sequels. Seems as though my brain held on (and probably always will) to all of the music though--I can hum along to every song on every route
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Jul 17, 2016 04:13
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MockingQuantum posted:Hmm I'd definitely do one of the first two then. I heard there's a bunch more exclusive Pokemon to White because of some forest or something; is it really that big of a difference? Given that I've bee playing Gen VI games I have a Pokemon Bank full of early gen pokes. The White Forest (and the Black equivalent, Black City) really only come into play if you are communicating between the two versions, inviting NPCs and new stuff to the other version of the game. Otherwise, you're not going to get much out of it. You're better off just looking at the list of exclusive pokes and picking whichever list is cooler, or comparing with your bank and picking the one that fills the most holes.
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Jul 17, 2016 04:50
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Yeah, a lot of that connection stuff is either completely inert (the Dream World, the Wi-Fi related stuff, Unity Tower and Liberty Island), or only usable between two players, or two DS's, using infrared ports so it can't be done online. You don't really get anything from doing the Entree stuff and it's a shame you can't really rank up Join Avenue like you could. And don't get me started on that loving awful Key system in B2W2...
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Jul 17, 2016 06:12
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White Forest/Black City are filled by going into other people's games, walking around the cities and talking to the NPCs you find there. However, if you finish the game fast enough, you'll find it's already populated with a few people, who unlock things like pokemon that you can find in the area. If you don't talk to the people in your forest/city, eventually they get bored and gently caress off so everyone's population tends towards 0 over time.
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Jul 17, 2016 07:09
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Ishkabibble. Thanks to Pokemon Go, I decided "hey, why don't I buy a Game Boy Advanced and a copy of FireRed or LeafGreen? They are old as hell, they can't be too expensive." It's cheap to buy a GBA. It's not cheap to get a copy of the game. 
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Jul 17, 2016 08:04
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Emulate it, I promise I won't tell anyone.
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Theta Zero posted:Gen I was a mess but I'm curious how far they were in development when they decided to make a sequel afterward. Because sometimes it feels like the game was made from the ground up expecting a second entry to add more things. Never quite get people who overtly romanticize that Gen. I mean I've played every single game since red and blue. I was there dude, in a lot ways it wasn't that great save making the precedent. Once you beat the elite 4 and catch Mewtwo there is literally nothing to do. Flopsy fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jul 17, 2016 |
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Jul 17, 2016 08:24
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MisterBibs posted:Ishkabibble. Thanks to Pokemon Go, I decided "hey, why don't I buy a Game Boy Advanced and a copy of FireRed or LeafGreen? They are old as hell, they can't be too expensive." for years and years I was hunting for a cheap copy of Sapphire, and now I'm seeing copies sold for 5-10$ more than when I was looking for them. I think a lot of people just hold onto their old Pokemon games forever, like me.
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Spatula City posted:for years and years I was hunting for a cheap copy of Sapphire, and now I'm seeing copies sold for 5-10$ more than when I was looking for them. I think a lot of people just hold onto their old Pokemon games forever, like me. Ayyyy!  Still have a gameboy color too. Don't know if it works though....
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Jul 17, 2016 08:46
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Countblanc posted:Emulate it, I promise I won't tell anyone. misterbibs steals?!
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MisterBibs posted:Ishkabibble. Thanks to Pokemon Go, I decided "hey, why don't I buy a Game Boy Advanced and a copy of FireRed or LeafGreen? They are old as hell, they can't be too expensive." I bought mine online and both of them turned out to be pirated. Decent quality, they work fine, just the label's very slightly wrong, but when I tried to migrate to gen 4, the gen 4 game wiped my save. Then it got wiped again a bit later when I was trading and the cable came loose.
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Jul 17, 2016 08:50
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Best part of gen 1 is x accuracy making all moves always hit, including ohko moves  Gotta say though gen wise gen 5 was one of my favorite gens but drat if hg/ss isn't far and away my favorite actual games. The nostalgia mixed with all pokes following you was the best imo. That's really the only game thing I'm miffed was cut out of later gens. (Although I get a dev not wanting to throw in some 600 overworld sprites)
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Quick question - I'm planning on replaying the series ahead of Sun/Moon, but I'm also getting a new 3DS XL console later in the year. If I grab RBY from the Virtual Console on my current 2DS, will I be able to transfer that across to the new console?
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Captain_Person posted:Quick question - I'm planning on replaying the series ahead of Sun/Moon, but I'm also getting a new 3DS XL console later in the year. If I grab RBY from the Virtual Console on my current 2DS, will I be able to transfer that across to the new console? Yes. There's a system transfer process. It takes a long time, but it's not hard. It will move all the content from the source system to the target system (overwriting anything that's there) and erase the source. The target system will even have the same friend code. It'll be like you had been using the new one all along.
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Jul 17, 2016 10:34
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Flopsy posted:Ayyyy! The battery is likely dead
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Jul 17, 2016 11:59
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Since I'm a bit of a collector but unable to do so, anyone know of good places to purchase extra event pokemon / limited run ones that aren't outright scams? Like, the current 'download R/B/S on virtual console to get a mew code' or the level 10 celebi that was given out in 2014 for making a pokemon bank thing, etc. Basically, I'm trying to acquire low level event / limited distribution pokemon. That, and a few custom orders (like a shiny noibat, shiny ponyta, etc)
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Jul 17, 2016 12:20
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Easiest way to do it in the current generation is buying Powersaves for your physical game cartridges, unless you have a way to modify your Gen 6 game data using the various hax's that have been floating around the past year or two. There's even a section in Powersaves that lists all the event Pokemon over the past three years and spoofs it via Mystery Gift, though the Pokebank Celebi isn't on there, I believe. But the event Celebi from earlier in the year is.
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I remember getting my Pokébank Celebi... That thing ended up with 31 IVs in HP, attack, special defense but 0 IVs in special attack and speed, the remaining stat was low and a Rash nature on top of it. Basically a terrible roll that I couldn't even reset for.
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Jul 17, 2016 13:22
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Salandit is so good
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Bongo Bill posted:Gen 1 and gen 2 both had very long development cycles. It's probable that many features introduced in gen 2 had been designed during gen 1's development, but not implemented due to technical or budgetary limitations. It's known that programming assistance from Satoru Iwata was necessary to get a lot of what was intended for gen 2 to fit on a cartridge and get the game out the door (late though it was). In game text points to eggs being a concept for Gen 1 and Sweet Honey (from DPPt) being available in Gen 2.
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Jul 17, 2016 13:46
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but holy poo poo mimikkyu is even better
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Bongo Bill posted:Gen 1 and gen 2 both had very long development cycles. It's probable that many features introduced in gen 2 had been designed during gen 1's development, but not implemented due to technical or budgetary limitations. It's known that programming assistance from Satoru Iwata was necessary to get a lot of what was intended for gen 2 to fit on a cartridge and get the game out the door (late though it was). Nice summary. Gen 3 was where the game really became functional, Gen IV was where it became "modern" and every generation after that was refining it.
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Jul 17, 2016 14:27
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who should I have in a mono-ghost team?
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Tired Moritz posted:who should I have in a mono-ghost team? Gengar, of course. Then Trevenant, Chandelure, Drifblim, Cofagrigus, and one of the Rotom forms.
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Tired Moritz posted:who should I have in a mono-ghost team? Gengar Trevenant M-Sableye Aegislash Chandelure Froslass Honestly, outside of Gengar/Sableye/Aegislash most ghosts aren't that great. Especially since the Rotom-formes are now Electric/whatever instead of keeping the Electric/Ghost typing. Hoopa and Giratina are options if you want legenaries. If you want a fun team of cool dudes to use Sableye Aegislash Cofagrigus Chandelure Shedinja Golurk Zore fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jul 17, 2016 |
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Jul 17, 2016 15:12
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ghosts are the coolest also apparently, aegislash is now Uber. 
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Tired Moritz posted:also apparently, aegislash is now Uber. It's been Uber for 2 years now
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Tired Moritz posted:who should I have in a mono-ghost team?      
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Seriously speaking for a moment, a skyscraper-sized pollution ghost that tells jokes should legitimately be a Pokemon.
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Jul 17, 2016 16:05
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WHAT IS THIS THING
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Macaluso posted:WHAT IS THIS THING It's from the Pokestar stuff where you make movies in Black/White 2. If I remember correctly, it's just a giant ghost called "Majin" and you fight it by making it laugh. There's some whacky sprites from there that look like legitimate Pokemon.      
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Jul 17, 2016 16:09
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ah dang you beat me to the giant pair of legs but you didn't get Mecha Tyranitar 
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Tired Moritz posted:ghosts are the coolest Stance Change was too much of a guessing game for Smogon.
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