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I'd argue scholars are often more in demand (in demand not necessarily meaning better or worse) due to their shields and theoretically better dps.
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Vil posted:1. Make sure the version of the game you're trying to play (Windows, Mac, PS4, and PS3 are all considered separate for this purpose) shows up on Mogstation as having been registered for Heavensward. If you, say, have Windows and PS4 versions of the game but only Windows has Heavensward registered to Mogstation, then you can do Heavensward stuff on Windows but not on PS4. Steam is also considered separate from Windows for this as well, last I checked.
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Jul 17, 2016 22:40
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I pre-ordered and registered heavensward when it came out, i just got exhausted and stopped playing back then before finishing the main story quest. I got my Collector's Edition in-game in the mail (the Kain puppet, mount etc.) and Mog-station says it's registered. But: God drat it, Alphie, i could be doing some of these new beast tribe quests right now. edit: on the other hand, fire shards sell for 400g a pop right now, so i'm kinda okay with shard farming. What happened to the prices since 2.57?!?
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Jul 17, 2016 22:45
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nobody farms them anymore because pretty much every craft in hw except some cooking ingredients requires at minimum crystals
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Jul 17, 2016 22:53
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vOv posted:All jobs are viable in endgame content. some people keep arguing that Astrologian isn't as favorable as Scholar or White Mage, why am I hearing about this? I'm curious about Astrologian and may look into it later on FactsAreUseless posted:IDK if only white mages are useful healers for endgame dungeons but Scholar seems more fun. It's really more of a stylistic thing. White Mages are very bursty with their heals while Scholars trickle it in. I was a WHM in a previous life before the expansion, it was fun and I miss her but I'm enjoying Scholar very much, it feels a little different but Eos makes it look so pretty and the magic barrier is really cool. The healing effects in this game is by far the most prettiest to look at Lastgirl fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jul 17, 2016 |
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Jul 17, 2016 23:08
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Lastgirl posted:some people keep arguing that Astrologian isn't as favorable as Scholar or White Mage, why am I hearing about this? I'm curious about Astrologian and may look into it later on Adloquium is a broken skill, so Nocturnal AST can't properly replace it. It's doable, but it's way more difficult.
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Jul 17, 2016 23:10
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Niton posted:Adloquium is a broken skill, so Nocturnal AST can't properly replace it. It's doable, but it's way more difficult. Also Nocturnal's shield overwrites Adloq, when Adloq is the way better shield.
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Niton posted:Adloquium is a broken skill, so Nocturnal AST can't properly replace it. It's doable, but it's way more difficult. Broken because if you land a crit heal on it, the shield is so much stronger right? So only go Astrologian if you want Dark Souls difficulty healing basically? EponymousMrYar posted:Also Nocturnal's shield overwrites Adloq, when Adloq is the way better shield. yikes in group content if Astrologian does this to a Scholar's critical Adloq
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Jul 17, 2016 23:12
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Lastgirl posted:Broken because if you land a crit heal on it, the shield is so much stronger right? Astrologian is fine, just don't use Nocturnal Sect unless you've got two Astrologians in the same party I guess. Stick to Diurnal Sect.
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In "real" raid groups you'll basically only see AST (diurnal)/WHM + SCH for those reasons. Adlo+faerie is so good and even if nocturnal AST had good shields the SCH would still win due to the faerie tossing out a steady stream of healing during cleric stance and the AST not getting HoTs or anything else to compensate.
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Looks like this Heavy Hatchling I got from the gold saucer is getting me a lot of attention from the anime cat ladies, pro peacocking strats right here.
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hobbesmaster posted:In "real" raid groups you'll basically only see AST (diurnal)/WHM + SCH for those reasons. Adlo+faerie is so good and even if nocturnal AST had good shields the SCH would still win due to the faerie tossing out a steady stream of healing during cleric stance and the AST not getting HoTs or anything else to compensate. AST would be so much better if you could change stances in the middle of battle like literally every other job with stances, Put like a minute cooldown on it, whatever.
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sword_man.gif posted:nobody farms them anymore because pretty much every craft in hw except some cooking ingredients requires at minimum crystals I''d figure supply and demand would balance that out. edit: lmao, wind crystals go for 260, and wind shard go for 600-800 right now
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HenryEx posted:So, i finally got off my rear end and watched the looong ARR final cutscene and the maybe even longer credits afterwards. After like 14 months of story break i've completely forgotten who the white robed dude Lahabrea talks with after the credits is. I feel like it was supposed to be kind of revelatory that he had a talk with Urianger afterwards, but i was just kinda confused instead. The white robe dude is Elidibus I'm pretty sure. It's a happening that Urianger is talking to him, because they're the bad guys and the WoL and his mates are under the impression that Urianger is not a bad guy. It's backstabby in a way that we're holding our breath for.
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It's still pretty unclear what white robe Ascian is up to, he's been showing up all over the place and some of the schemes he's been involved in appear to be counterproductive to their long term goal of making Zodiark the supreme god.
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The ascians killed spergy McElf's waifu, though, so if he was working with them he certainly is not happy with them. My guess was not so much that he was meeting with him because they are in cahoots, but more as a parlay.
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Mr. Nice! posted:The ascians killed spergy McElf's waifu, though, so if he was working with them he certainly is not happy with them. Or they're blackmailing him somehow.
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So i didn't actually miss all that much. I only remembered that Urianger was the one left behind in Base At The rear end Of Nowhere and gave you all the primals quests, but seemed like a rather dedicated member of the WoL posse. I actually thought Lahabrea was dead af and was like "i clowned this dude out of Thancred why is he still here" but i never paid much attention to story in Praetorium (no one would let you) and the last time i played this game was about 14 months ago. Heck, i've more than twice as long NOT played this game than i've actually played it. I'm kind of amazed i remembered as much as i still do.
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Somebody walk me through when and how to use the fairies. I can't really tell when they're using abilities on their own, so I assume I need to manually control them. Eos gives me more healing ability, I think Selene is most useful when dealing with casters who can drop status effects, but I'm not sure. It's basically eight more abilities I can potentially use on command, so what's the best way to do that?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Somebody walk me through when and how to use the fairies. I can't really tell when they're using abilities on their own, so I assume I need to manually control them. Eos gives me more healing ability, I think Selene is most useful when dealing with casters who can drop status effects, but I'm not sure. It's basically eight more abilities I can potentially use on command, so what's the best way to do that? Eos is overkill. Use Selene and let her do her own thing and you'll be fine 99% of the time until you start doing savage raid content or EX primals or something. The one big thing is that if you're going to be moving around a lot, you want to Place her in one spot so she doesn't try to follow you, because she'll prioritize moving over actually healing. (And then use Heel afterwards, because if you run out of range once the fight's over she'll just desummon).
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Selene is what you're gonna be using 99% of the time, and you can totally just leave her on auto (Sic) - though Placing her is good because if she's following your movements she won't heal. Eos is mainly used for..well not much. Cutting edge progression, maybe? If you use her you want to manually do her specials, but even on Obey she'll use Embrace on her own.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Selene is what you're gonna be using 99% of the time, and you can totally just leave her on auto (Sic) - though Placing her is good because if she's following your movements she won't heal.
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EDIT: FactsAreUseless posted:Eos seems to be more the more general-use fairy on paper, since she just does healing and damage mitigation rather than silence and status healing, what makes Selene more useful? The bonus healing you get doesn't really matter, unless you need to force your way through some really heavy hitting stuff, which only applies to savage raids. Selene gives you bonus skill and spell speed, which means your party can do more damage. Her cleanse also lets you let you focus on doing more damage instead of stopping to take care of it yourself. They have two modes. Obey lets you tell them when to use their skills, and sic has them use them automatically. 95% of the time, you should leave them on sic, and play around with Obey when you hit 50 and want to micromanage some skills. Both fairies will use their heal skill (embrace) on anyone in your party below 95% HP, and they'll use their buffs on cooldown. Selene's cleanse and silence will automatically go off when someone gets a debuff and when an enemy starts casting, respectively. In general, Eos is great for high level raiding when you need a fuckton of healing, and Selene is better in every other circumstance over level 30, since she'll be your only cleanse, and she'll give a nice damage boost with her skill/spell speed buff. Below level 30, Eos is slightly better, because she can let you ignore the tank completely, but it's not like it really matters at that level. Tenik fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Tenik posted:They have two modes. Obey lets you tell them when to use their skills, and sic has them use them automatically. 95% of the time, you should leave them on sic, and play around with Obey when you hit 50 and want to micromanage some skills. Both fairies will use their heal skill (embrace) on anyone in your party below 95% HP, and they'll use their buffs on cooldown. Selene's cleanse and silence will automatically go off when someone gets a debuff and when an enemy starts casting, respectively.
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nope! If you want them to use a skill, you'll need to use it yourself, or just get a feel for when they'll automatically cast it.
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FactsAreUseless posted:This is good to know. Is there anything like FF12's gambit system to let me mess with their AI? God I loving wish the pets had basic gambits to tweak.
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The biggest problem with Selene's cleanse is that she'll happily use it on any debuff, including ones that can't be cleansed.
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Also she'll try and silence weaponskills that have a cast time. Selene is trying her hardest.
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vOv posted:The biggest problem with Selene's cleanse is that she'll happily use it on any debuff, including ones that can't be cleansed. Weakness and jails are my personal favorites.
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Yeah if they could teach Selene's extremely limited AI how to not be a dummy about silences and status effects it would be so good.
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I've been working on SCH (already have WHM at 60) and while it's certainly easier to DPS with, I do find it a lot harder to heal in "oh poo poo" situations. It's rare that it ever really is an issue but sometimes if I'm a little late coming out of Cleric and the tank is danger low, it's a lot harder to know I can get them back up to full health in time than it is with WHM. I'm sure some of that comes with experience but at least up to 54, SCH just doesn't have as big of heals in those situations. WHM gets Cure II and Bene (and eventually Tetra) that all make it pretty easy to top people off qwuickly and SCH just doesn't seem to have a matching toolset for that.
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Lustrate is still good for that, also you get Emergency Tactics (turns the shield into more heals), Indomitability (which is stronger than Medica in exchange for a cooldown and a stack), and Dissipation (which drops your fairy in exchange for three Aetherflow stacks and a healing buff until you can resummom).
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Jul 18, 2016 02:18
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Lustrate is a 600 potency oGCD with an instant cast time and something like 0.5s recast time, meaning you can dump 1800 potency of heals into your tank in less than a gcd.
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Once per minute, yes.
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kafziel posted:Once per minute, yes. Dissipation. Besides, how often are you in a situation where you the tank needs critical healing more than once a minute? Savage raids you'll have another healer with burst heals and no other content should murder a tank that hard.
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I'm of the opinion that if Selene can't keep the tank alive by herself, either you're doing something wrong, or the tank is doing something wrong (unless it's a boss fight or a particularly bad idea megapull).
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Kwyndig posted:I'm of the opinion that if Selene can't keep the tank alive by herself, either you're doing something wrong, or the tank is doing something wrong (unless it's a boss fight or a particularly bad idea megapull). Maybe that's true if you're doing Haukke, but the fairy can't really solo heal anything significant after a certain point. As hilarious as the "fairy can solo heal everything, go afk and watch netflix" meme is at some point the damage output gets high enough (or the pulls get big enough/the fairy starts scaling poorly enough) that what's effectively a ~200-300 pot HoT won't be enough.
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SCH is probably the most interesting healing job in the game to me, and that's why I chose it as my main originally. What I wish someone had told me, though, is that in the high end, people generally see the WHM/AST as the main healer and the SCH as the off-healer. When I played SCH in savage content, I felt like I spent most of my time prepping shields and DPS'ing and very little time actually healing. Of course, I realise most people don't get into that type of content, but I still wish I had known.
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Ryanbomber posted:Maybe that's true if you're doing Haukke, but the fairy can't really solo heal anything significant after a certain point. As hilarious as the "fairy can solo heal everything, go afk and watch netflix" meme is at some point the damage output gets high enough (or the pulls get big enough/the fairy starts scaling poorly enough) that what's effectively a ~200-300 pot HoT won't be enough.
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