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Baron Corbyn posted:Richard Murphy, architect of people's quantitative easing, has written an article on Corbyn, and it's pretty damning. Comments cover a lot of the problems there - mainly that it ignores internal sabotage and party recalcitrance in order to pin all blame on Corbyn, and also that it's far too forgiving of Smith because "everyone makes mistakes!!" Still better than most PLP/media analysis. e: February 1952: George VI dies and Elizabeth II accedes to the throne. Britain has an Empire, streets are clean, people say hello to each other on the street, children mind their manners and you can leave your front door unlocked all day Lt. Danger fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Mister Adequate posted:People who have actual strength and courage don't need to invent bullshit ideologies or racial groups to belong to and follow.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Richard Murphy, architect of people's quantitative easing, has written an article on Corbyn, and it's pretty damning. What Lt Danger said, and also: when specifically told in the comments that it was Heidi Alexander who blocked any movement towards scrapping markets in the NHS, and that she is in Owen Smith's campaign team, all he has to say is "compromise is necessary". Well yes, but why is that an acceptable answer for Smith but not for Corbyn?
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Jul 18, 2016 09:41
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I've routinely heard people say that corbyn is a bad leader because he refuses to compromise and then fail to give any example of it at all
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Jul 18, 2016 09:56
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Oh dear me posted:Article on the entirely fake Owen Smith: Oops! All Tories
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Jul 18, 2016 09:57
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So that's ARM, pretty much the UK's only globally important tech company, sold off to a Japanese buyer with the government's seal of approval.
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Jul 18, 2016 09:58
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So ARM, probably the last hugely relevant UK tech firm, has been sold to Japanese Softbank for £24bn. What's the odds of Theresa May blocking this takeover? e: beaten somehow qhat fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 10:00
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LemonDrizzle posted:So that's ARM, pretty much the UK's only globally important tech company, sold off to a Japanese buyer with the government's seal of approval. Nice.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:01
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who could have seen this coming ~Big Business~ is currently stuck between a rock and a hard place, either things continue as they are and the economy dies completely and business becomes poo poo, or things improve and people realize who's fault the current state of affairs ultimately is and demand the rich pay slightly more and be slightly less obscenely wealthy, an unacceptable state of affairs. Whether you're a businessperson, an rear end in a top hat or both the only real option is to run.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:06
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Apparently they have committed to doubling the size of their UK operations over the next five years so probably not an immediate concern. We're definitely on schedule for long term irrelevancy though.
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Oberleutnant posted:
Why did the BBC have a white English person fronting coverage of the assassination of Jo Cox?
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Jose posted:I've routinely heard people say that corbyn is a bad leader because he refuses to compromise and then fail to give any example of it at all If anything he compromised too much.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:08
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qhat posted:Apparently they have committed to doubling the size of their UK operations over the next five years so probably not an immediate concern. We're definitely on schedule for long term irrelevancy though. of course there's always comedy/depressing option 3: the true long-gamers who realize the British population as future foreign underpaid sweatshop workers. the free market prevails again
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Jul 18, 2016 10:09
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Being fair if there's a country we could stand to do more business with it's Japan. No I'm not saying that because I want easier access to anime and jpop, why do you ask?
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Jul 18, 2016 10:12
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Look at this piss, written by someone I went to Uni with and some other young(ish) Blairite. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/07/we-must-face-future-first-we-need-new-leader If you throw enough Atlee quotes in there I'm sure people will ignore that your actual argument is shite. Good job, councillors!
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Jul 18, 2016 10:13
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Tesseraction posted:Being fair if there's a country we could stand to do more business with it's Japan. Ultimate option 4: British Anime holy poo poo
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Jul 18, 2016 10:14
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Lt. Danger posted:Comments cover a lot of the problems there - mainly that it ignores internal sabotage and party recalcitrance in order to pin all blame on Corbyn, and also that it's far too forgiving of Smith because "everyone makes mistakes!!" It's also pretty dishonest or really loving naive to say that the tories are going to actually implement People's QE.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:14
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whats the shortest reign of a labour leader because deposing corbyn only to get smashed at an early election would surely be up there
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Jul 18, 2016 10:15
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Tesseraction posted:Being fair if there's a country we could stand to do more business with it's Japan. There's a difference between British businesses doing business with Japanese Businesses, and Japanese buyers purchasing out hugely relevant UK firms and shifting operations away from the UK. I mean for ARM even without a guarantee of doubling their workforce, the chances of operations being moved from the UK, given how much talent is in the UK and the rapidly depreciating value of sterling (making us cheaper to employ), are pretty close to nil. Doesn't mean we should just flippantly sell off all our important businesses abroad though.
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qhat posted:There's a difference between British businesses doing business with Japanese Businesses, and Japanese buyers purchasing out hugely relevant UK firms and shifting operations away from the UK. I mean for ARM even without a guarantee of doubling their workforce, the chances of operations being moved from the UK, given how much talent is in the UK and the rapidly depreciating value of sterling (making us cheaper to employ), are pretty close to nil. Doesn't mean we should just flippantly sell off all our important businesses abroad though. Oh I know, I was just thinking that if there's a country outside of the EU we could stand to form closer economic ties to, we could do much worse than Japan. They're even a tiny island full of racists like we are!
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tee hee https://twitter.com/GreenpeaceUK/status/754958663928909825 Also good news everyone: Corbs will be attending the PLP leadership hustings. I expect it'll go down as well as spiked balls in tea.
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Jose posted:whats the shortest reign of a labour leader because deposing corbyn only to get smashed at an early election would surely be up there A few of the early ones had year long tenures as they kept switching around between Arthur Henderson and Ramsay Macdonald.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:28
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Shame, it shouldn't be rebranded, but instead left as is, and parked outside Boris's home, forever.
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Tesseraction posted:Oh I know, I was just thinking that if there's a country outside of the EU we could stand to form closer economic ties to, we could do much worse than Japan. They're even a tiny island full of racists like we are! Need to get Tonga and a resurgent Hawai'i on board.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:38
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Desiderata posted:Shame, it shouldn't be rebranded, but instead left as is, and parked outside Boris's home, forever. Being fair if it was changed to "£350mn/week: the NHS is waiting, Boris." I could dig it.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:43
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If this is how Labour voters view Eagle and Smith I wonder what the membership margins are like.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:47
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How about some good news for a change: quote:Rates of teenage pregnancy in the UK have halved in the past two decades and are now at their lowest levels since record-keeping began in the late 1960s. Shows you what government can do when it actually tries and gets everybody on board.
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Desiderata posted:Shame, it shouldn't be rebranded, but instead left as is, and parked outside Boris's home, forever. I would pay a subscription to fund this. Also I assuming someone itt is going to post a link soon to telling me where to send my 25 squids.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:49
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vodkat posted:I would pay a subscription to fund this. The option goes live at 5 PM, I'm sure someone will post it around then.
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Jul 18, 2016 11:01
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Junior G-man posted:Shows you what government can do when it actually tries and gets everybody on board. I thought this was supposed to be a side-effect of teenagers spending more time online?
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I thought this was supposed to be a side-effect of teenagers spending more time online? Clearly it's Men Going Their Own Way.
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Tesseraction posted:Oh I know, I was just thinking that if there's a country outside of the EU we could stand to form closer economic ties to, we could do much worse than Japan. They're even a tiny island full of racists like we are! Known primarily outside their own borders for producing relatively mediocre TV series imbued with a strong but ultimately inaccurate flavour of national identity that acts as escapism for natives and gross misinformation for American nerds. I am speaking, of course, of Dr Who 
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People generally have more to keep them busy these days than drinking, loving and fighting. Doesn't always stop them but I wouldn't put it down to just the internet.
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Junior G-man posted:How about some good news for a change: quote:I was really surprised that the biggest issue was consent. Young men and women didn’t know they had the right to say no to sex.  Okay, I can understand if the problem was that young men and women didn't feel comfortable saying no. That's a big issue and talking about social pressures and enthusiastic consent and helping kids navigate awkward conversations is important. But not knowing that they have the absolute right to say no? That's odd and worrying. Tesseraction posted:Clearly it's Men Going Their Own Way.
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Jul 18, 2016 11:16
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Besides people tend to look down on you if you drink while pregnant so they pick the more fun one.
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Tesseraction posted:Clearly it's Men Going Their Own Way. I think you'll find it's all that gay indoctrination they do in schools nowadays, seems teenagers are all too busy with their government funded homosexual orgies to get pregnant. Also explains the bad weather we've been having lately.
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Guavanaut posted:They kinda are and it's a fairly watertight way of avoiding pregnancy. That's not MGTOW and you know it.  MGTOW are men who deliberately avoid any kinda of contact with women because they hate women. Not all gay/bi dudes are misogynists.
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Jul 18, 2016 11:19
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Could just be that teenage girls are looking at their 30 year old single mothers and thinking "Nah, I'll give that a miss".
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I always figured it was because more girls currently use the pill because on top of the "no pregnancy" benefit it can also reduce the awfulness of menstruation. Not always enough, mind you. Thread wombhavers can feel free to tell me that's a myth and that I'm full of poo poo.
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