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Kaldaris
Aug 10, 2008

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Awesome possum!

Papercut posted:

A kid maybe? I played with what sounded like a middle schooler the other day and he was amazingly bad. Like, Pharah who never ever leaves the ground bad.

Why would you leave the ground??? It just makes you a target!!

Genji though. Christ almighty. He's one of those heroes that I know how to play on a technical level. But I have no idea how to properly execute. Can anyone type some words about Genji for me?

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cent0r
Feb 19, 2007

Kaldaris posted:

Why would you leave the ground??? It just makes you a target!!

Genji though. Christ almighty. He's one of those heroes that I know how to play on a technical level. But I have no idea how to properly execute. Can anyone type some words about Genji for me?

Watch Seagull play on Youtube. Try emulate and fail miserably.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

Kaldaris posted:

Why would you leave the ground??? It just makes you a target!!

Genji though. Christ almighty. He's one of those heroes that I know how to play on a technical level. But I have no idea how to properly execute. Can anyone type some words about Genji for me?

On a related note, I've been playing a lot of Phara lately and it is so much fun to zoom in behind an opposing Phara unnoticed and assassinating them with a rocket.

Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

Kaldaris posted:

Why would you leave the ground??? It just makes you a target!!

Genji though. Christ almighty. He's one of those heroes that I know how to play on a technical level. But I have no idea how to properly execute. Can anyone type some words about Genji for me?

I'll give you the benefit of my experience: Spam shurikens and jump around like a cracked out rabbit. Then pop your ult, charge in, and die instantly.

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

vulturesrow posted:

Link to vids? I'd love to see this.

https://www.twitch.tv/beatinvitational/v/77529264

go to 2:39:00 and watch harbleu eat people up like cupcakes

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

Reactor: Online
Sensors: Online
Weapons: Online

ALL SYSTEMS NOMINAL

Papercut posted:

A kid maybe? I played with what sounded like a middle schooler the other day and he was amazingly bad. Like, Pharah who never ever leaves the ground bad.

Dunno, wasn't on voice chat. After we lost horribly he said something about going back to playing healer since he sucked at Widow. :shrug:

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

Kerrrrrrr posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/beatinvitational/v/77529264

go to 2:39:00 and watch harbleu eat people up like cupcakes

also just watch any moonmoon stream

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

vulturesrow posted:

Link to vids? I'd love to see this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcPHOq5EkY

here's one example, he goes very deep for a pick, often to try to get a mercy.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Kerrrrrrr posted:

also just watch any moonmoon stream

Yeah watching Moonmoon improved my Hog a ton.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



My proudest Overwatch moment was being shoved into a game vs. Moonmoon on Anubis A, steamrolling over his team on Roadhog in like 3:50 or something ridiculous, and getting PotG.

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

Zoness posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcPHOq5EkY

here's one example, he goes very deep for a pick, often to try to get a mercy.

Good God, that 76 at the beginning tags people down like he has the auto-aim ult up full-time.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Any general tips for playing Zarya?

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.

Papercut posted:

Yeah watching Moonmoon improved my Hog a ton.

yeah i got like 2 more inches

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

Mystic Stylez posted:

Any general tips for playing Zarya?
Shield people who are already being shot at. Run into bullets while your personal shield is up (and then play safe while it cools down). Use your alt fire a lot to poke.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Play Zarya passive-aggressively; try to taunt people into shooting your shield and making you stronk.

Generally it's better to pop your bubble after people start shooting and not before, so I feel like her voiceovers tend to mislead people a bit.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mystic Stylez posted:

Any general tips for playing Zarya?

Treat her shields (as in half your HP bar, not her shift and E abilities) as your only real HP pool and be sure to have an escape route ready for when they get low. Her ability to regen that much of her bar that quickly is key to her durability and should be recognized accordingly. Basically play conservatively and don't expect heals from anyone. Your RMB attack can be lobbed over walls and through doorways so you should not only be using it like junkrat's LMB (I.e. always be lobbing) but use it to create distance between you and enemies when you're ducking into a corridor or a room to regen shields or heal up.

Also always be bubbling. Look for friendlies getting shot at and bubble them. Bubble yourself to give a couple seconds of free incoming damage. Only bubble under fire. Eating their fire is going to make you meaner and when you have a good charge your LMB beam becomes a laser-wreathed fucksaw of slavic doom. The difficulty in playing Zarya is the split between wanting to get shot and needing to hide to regen shields but you want to be just dancing on the edge of recklessness, but not so reckless that you're constantly diving into the enemy.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
Turrets- especially symmetra's- are basically free energy boosts for zarya. You know there's a carwash set up in that room? Pop a few turrets at distance with alt fire if possible then run in, bubble and blow the rest while gaining charge

e: always be calling out your ult status when it's charged or close to. It's weak by itself but owns hard when combo'd with a big-hitter DPS ult

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
It's also strong by itself if you're fully engorged and they don't have a reinhart

bumble
Oct 15, 2012

R U HOT YET?
Don't forget to turn on allied health bars under Zarya's hero specific options. It's really useful in general (and I don't understand why we can't have it on every hero), but it also makes it easier to figure out who could use a shield.

Timboslice
Jan 4, 2008

The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!
Do you think there is a hacking problem in pro overwatch games? I don't want the same poo poo plaguing the game like in CSGO.

There are some pretty shady clips, Taimou obviously having the most hilariously obvious clip I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKOO4K9F2E

Don't you hate when your aimbot gets stuck on a ressing character? :argh:

Shitty Wizard
Jan 2, 2013

ASK ME WHY
I VOTED
FOR TRUMP
How much does a full self-heal add to roadhogs ultimate anyway? I don't have test installed, and want to know if I can consider the -40% ult charge speed but self-heals now charge ults change to be a buff, a nerf, or pretty much the same.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Is anyone else having the pre-patch thing downloading through the background downloader even though the game isn't on? Usually I'll have the big bar to the right of the play button but right now it's a green arrow and if I hover over it it's like "we're background downloading the patch stuff". How do I make it go back to normal?

I was confused as gently caress about why youtube suddenly decided to take a massive dump until I noticed the download was happening on my battle.net

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Why is Spectate always greyed out?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Macaluso posted:

Is anyone else having the pre-patch thing downloading through the background downloader even though the game isn't on? Usually I'll have the big bar to the right of the play button but right now it's a green arrow and if I hover over it it's like "we're background downloading the patch stuff". How do I make it go back to normal?

I was confused as gently caress about why youtube suddenly decided to take a massive dump until I noticed the download was happening on my battle.net

It's pre-loading the patch and it's a separate setting from normal patch download speed. Default is like 100kps so somewhere along the line you set it to something higher/unlimited.

E: or you have DS:lol: and are dealing with like 768k down max.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Verranicus posted:

Why is Spectate always greyed out?

They are still implementing it IIRC, your only option is to join the game and then spectate

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??

lovely Wizard posted:

How much does a full self-heal add to roadhogs ultimate anyway? I don't have test installed, and want to know if I can consider the -40% ult charge speed but self-heals now charge ults change to be a buff, a nerf, or pretty much the same.

If you drink it all in and get the full 300 healing, it gets you 20% ult. It's definitely a buff to Roadhog.

It's hard to say its too big a buff, though, because suddenly Discord orb will be way more common and Ana's grenades shut down Roadhog hard, so its a buff he probably needed going into this next meta shift.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

FAUXTON posted:

It's pre-loading the patch and it's a separate setting from normal patch download speed. Default is like 100kps so somewhere along the line you set it to something higher/unlimited.

E: or you have DS:lol: and are dealing with like 768k down max.

The speed itself wasn't the problem for me (beyond being confused about youtube suddenly dying for no reason), it was that it was hidden away as a background download even though those don't seem to happen unless I have the game open. Is there an option to have prepatches not be background downloaded... or whatever and just be like regular downloads with the download bar being on the right like normal patches/hotfixes?

I don't have DSL but I do have Brighthouse which half the time it might as well be DSL. Brighthouse is the best! :buddy:

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

bumble posted:

Don't forget to turn on allied health bars under Zarya's hero specific options. It's really useful in general (and I don't understand why we can't have it on every hero),
It's on their list they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Macaluso posted:

The speed itself wasn't the problem for me (beyond being confused about youtube suddenly dying for no reason), it was that it was hidden away as a background download even though those don't seem to happen unless I have the game open. Is there an option to have prepatches not be background downloaded... or whatever and just be like regular downloads with the download bar being on the right like normal patches/hotfixes?
No that's just how it works.

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

Kaplan said some words on Kotaku. Nothing really new, but it is a lot of words about things.

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-director-on-competitive-controversies-and-1783869335

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Macaluso posted:

The speed itself wasn't the problem for me (beyond being confused about youtube suddenly dying for no reason), it was that it was hidden away as a background download even though those don't seem to happen unless I have the game open. Is there an option to have prepatches not be background downloaded... or whatever and just be like regular downloads with the download bar being on the right like normal patches/hotfixes?

I don't have DSL but I do have Brighthouse which half the time it might as well be DSL. Brighthouse is the best! :buddy:

No but you should be able to set it to something crazy low IIRC.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

FAUXTON posted:

No but you should be able to set it to something crazy low IIRC.

Eh i don't mind it, like I said it wasn't the speed that was the problem it was more that I couldn't figure out what was happening initially like I could if it was a normal update. I'd rather the updates get done as quick as possible so I don't want to set it low

Sindai posted:

No that's just how it works.

Eh well. In the end my complaint is mostly a pretty meaningless cosmetic one anyway (wanting a big loading bar on the side as opposed to a small one when you hover over it)

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

How rare is pulling golds out of loot boxes? I just got Valkyrie Mercy.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Kerrrrrrr posted:

Kaplan said some words on Kotaku. Nothing really new, but it is a lot of words about things.

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-director-on-competitive-controversies-and-1783869335

Notable because he all but spells out "quit suggesting CTF, idiots"

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


lovely Wizard posted:

How much does a full self-heal add to roadhogs ultimate anyway? I don't have test installed, and want to know if I can consider the -40% ult charge speed but self-heals now charge ults change to be a buff, a nerf, or pretty much the same.
~20% or so

Timboslice
Jan 4, 2008

The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!

Bruceski posted:

How rare is pulling golds out of loot boxes? I just got Valkyrie Mercy.

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was about 9% chance.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Timboslice posted:

Pretty sure everyone agreed it was about 9% chance.

So for level 23 I'm actually behind the curve. Good to know. At least I got a cool one.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.

Timboslice posted:

Do you think there is a hacking problem in pro overwatch games? I don't want the same poo poo plaguing the game like in CSGO.

There are some pretty shady clips, Taimou obviously having the most hilariously obvious clip I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKOO4K9F2E

Don't you hate when your aimbot gets stuck on a ressing character? :argh:

I love the people in the comments for this video trying to defend this.

Timboslice
Jan 4, 2008

The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!

Theta Zero posted:

I love the people in the comments for this video trying to defend this.

Yeah, I get there are some pretty shady clips of some other players but in my 20 years of playing games I've never been so sure that someone is hacking.

You can actually see him try to rip away from the locked target but the bot obviously doesn't distinguish alive or res immune characters.

The fact so little noise about this was made is shocking and sad.

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

e m b r a c e
t r a n q u i l i t y



Kerrrrrrr posted:

Kaplan said some words on Kotaku. Nothing really new, but it is a lot of words about things.

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-director-on-competitive-controversies-and-1783869335

There's some interesting stuff.

It seems that they don't have a problem with oversized projectile hitboxes, but they trimmed them down in the PTR because they do have a problem with people who are out of sight getting sniped around corners.

Competitive was originally meant to be exclusively for 6-man premades, but the testers complained.

They also like the way the rank system is working out, but want to find a way to make it obvious that it's a genuine ranking, rather than a race to 100 (possibly by not making it 1-100).

They know they can't stop the porn factories. They just don't want Tracer getting hosed by Widowmaker's big purple dong to be one of the first things to show up in a Google search.

Pharah's Native American skins got through because Blizz thought they were awesome enough to overcome any sort of cultural handwringing.

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Bacontotem
May 27, 2010



Gimnbo posted:

There's some interesting stuff.



They also like the way the rank system is working out, but want to find a way to make it obvious that it's a genuine ranking, rather than a race to 100 (possibly by not making it 1-100).



Well gently caress. That means I'm banned.

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