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It suggests, to me, that the decision to allow you to put off NG+ came relatively late - late enough that they couldn't account for even leaving the boss room before choosing an ending, because you're not locked in there either. It is a tough problem, though, because the world is going to be massively changed whichever ending you choose. Somebody pointed out that the Firelink you warp to that's all hosed up was possibly supposed to be THE Firelink at one point but then, again, you'd be locked in.
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Akuma posted:It suggests, to me, that the decision to allow you to put off NG+ came relatively late - late enough that they couldn't account for even leaving the boss room before choosing an ending, because you're not locked in there either. Uh. Why would they leave. Do you want to not be able to buy anything until NG+?
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Well exactly, and I think that's why it was ultimately done the way it was, but is also why it doesn't make any narrative sense. Remember that out of the 5 Souls[borne] games only 2 of them let you do anything once you've beaten the last boss, and while making this one that was 1 out of 4. The only one that let you keep playing was the non-Miyazaki one. I'm very much surprised it didn't lock you into starting over once you burn the lords, frankly.
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Supremezero posted:Uh. Why would they leave. Do you want to not be able to buy anything until NG+? Thought i was in the Brexit thread for a sec
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Akuma posted:It suggests, to me, that the decision to allow you to put off NG+ came relatively late - late enough that they couldn't account for even leaving the boss room before choosing an ending, because you're not locked in there either. I don't really think the post-ending stuff was ever supposed to be anything other than a gameplay conceit in either this game or Dark Souls 2. I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to survive linking the fire, so there's no way to have you running around after that ending that makes sense.
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I just started bloodborne. I guess I'll go poo poo up that thread for a while. Bloodborne loving sucks btw. Difficult to the maxxx.
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lite_sleepr posted:I just started bloodborne. I guess I'll go poo poo up that thread for a while. Bloodborne is fanfuckingtastic, you'll see once you git gudder. Try the Hunter's Axe if you haven't already, it's probably the best weapon in any From game period. DSIII rev. 1.10 hit tonight and my weakass Google-Fu hasn't led me to any release notes for it; does anyone know what's been altered?
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Pretty big changes actually. Not only did they adjust the efficiency of the parameter, but the category's effect got an alteration.
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Digirat posted:Pretty big changes actually. Not only did they adjust the efficiency of the parameter,  quote:but the category's effect got an alteration. 
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lite_sleepr posted:I just started bloodborne. I guess I'll go poo poo up that thread for a while. Soldier on through the first area and things get much easier from there. I would say Bloodborne is actually easier, unless you are someone who played DS hiding behind his shield poking things. In that case you probably are hosed because BB is about getting in peoples faces and rolling. Filthy Hans posted:Bloodborne is fanfuckingtastic, you'll see once you git gudder. Try the Hunter's Axe if you haven't already, it's probably the best weapon in any From game period. Deffo about the Axe, swiss army weapon of BB. I really like the saw too, but if you were just going to choose one weapon you really can't lose with the axe.
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The saw cleaver is pretty much unmatched in pure damage as long as you don't mind getting up close and personal
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Sakurazuka posted:The saw cleaver is pretty much unmatched in pure damage as long as you don't mind getting up close and personal
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Sakurazuka posted:The saw cleaver is pretty much unmatched in pure damage as long as you don't mind getting up close and personal Which incidentally is the most fun way to play, and viable since you can regain health so easily.
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I saw some article on a lovely game website that said a skill build with the threaded cane was the cats pajamas, so I rolled with that. Seems pretty good because if BB is about speed and aggressive playstyle, a highly mobile player with what is essentially a dex build should do fine. Of course if a rookie hunter would do better with a hunters axe I'll restart since I only put about 2 hours in. Is the Yahrnam Hunters Set better than the Hunters set you can find in some canals? The Yarnham set you can buy from the bathtub servants.
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Apparently the pontiff lure glitch and ithryll drop were big enough issues to fix:From Software posted:Fixes an issue that allowed players to float in the air when using the Tears of Denial miracle
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OOB was possible in more places than just those though.
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lite_sleepr posted:I saw some article on a lovely game website that said a skill build with the threaded cane was the cats pajamas, so I rolled with that. Seems pretty good because if BB is about speed and aggressive playstyle, a highly mobile player with what is essentially a dex build should do fine. Of course if a rookie hunter would do better with a hunters axe I'll restart since I only put about 2 hours in. the Threaded Cane is amazing, but it's not really the best build for a first time playthrough because it starts so much slower than everything else. It will be difficult until you can upgrade it to +5 or so, then the scaling starts to kick in and it's awesome. The crowd control offered by the trick form is unparalleled. But, the Axe/Cleaver are better options for the first try. If you feel like you're struggling, switch it up. Or poo poo - you're only a couple hours in - start a new character and try one of the others for a few minutes. It's not like Dark Souls where there's a million weapons and most of them are poo poo. There's only like 20-25 but they are ALL good. You just need to find something which suits your playstyle. The armor sets in BB don't differ drastically at all, so it's pretty much fashion souls. There are a few instances where you might want a set with really high resistance to one damage type, but for the most part - wear what looks cool. The only set which sucks are the clothes you start with. There's a Bloodborne thread here which has plenty more advice.
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A threaded cane skill build will absolutely demolish stuff, it's just not the best newbie set up because it requires a bit more finesse and the cane doesn't really get going til you've upgraded it to +3 Apart from a few sets armour in BB is pretty much the same, so wear what ever looks good unless it obviously has much worse stats (the starting set for example) or you need to stack specific resistances for some reason.
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Man, Greirat is just loving broken. If you know too much about him, it seems that this also can gently caress his questline up. How? Well, I sent him to Irythill immediately after arriving there, told Patches where he was (yes, he has the Catarina set), then warped to Smouldering and killed the Old Demon King. Back to the Shrine, and Patches still sits there, has apparently forgotten about Greirat, and Greirat is also gone. Confirmed dead, now. I think it's because I went to the next boss kill TOO fast - I should have checked if Patches actually left Firelink. But I did not reload Firelink, just went to ODK immediately, and that probably means Patches didn't leave, then my bosskill doomed Greirat. Or something. This is so dumb.
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Lol it always works like that and honestly, who cares about all these npc's
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I usually just kill patches and save siegward so Greirat's always survived that part for me. I wouldn't think you'd have had to leave and then come back to Firelink or something, but I'm not sure what the exact triggers are. Sometimes they can be really drat finicky.
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Do you actually miss out on any gear by just killing every NPC you find?
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do you actually miss out on any gear by just killing every NPC you find? Yeah, Greirat needs to go fetch stuff before he can sell it to you, and he's the only renewable source of most crossbow bolts.
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Humans Among Us posted:Don't you get they ashes if you kill them or something yea but if you kill greirat before his inventory is stocked up you miss out on some consumable purchases
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Humans Among Us posted:Don't you get they ashes if you kill them or something You do, but if you don't meet the conditions for unlocking a vendor selling X or Y item then their ashes won't necessarily yield that item either.
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Good luck giving a scroll of sorcery to a pile of ashes!
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Good luck giving a scroll of sorcery to a pile of ashes! That's working as intended-- The Gods hate mages.
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My first play through I lost like all of the NPCs because there are often so many stupid rules, things, or times you have to do to save them. Unless you are going for platinum/certain ending, or need something specifically, it seems to make no difference anyway.
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I have never been able to buy Exploding Bolts in any of my playthroughs, because in the first I didn't know of course, in the second I forgot until too late, in the third I hosed something up (can't remember) and for the fourth see above. By the by, I'm looking for recommendations for that one. Been using the Demon's Great Axe because I wanted to, but am getting kind of sick of it now, just too limited a moveset and I'd like to have some more actual damage - it's fun, but just nooot that good. Especially DPS-wise, as I am starved for points considering that whole "Pyromancer" thing, so only two hits and I can't even roll away afterwards. As I want to keep the Pyro thing going, I want to infuse something with Chaos, too lazy to keep buffing, Flame Weapon isn't that good anyway and I need those slots for Chaos Fireball. I think the Thrall Axe could be really nice, someone has already recommended that. Maybe a Shotel for once, or the Carthus one, I keep wanting to use it for style but never get around to it. Not too exciting scaling-wise, though. The Corvian Scythe seems to become really good when upgraded and in Chaos, but maybe it's actually really terrible? Anything else you can think of besides Straight Swords (really not my style)? Daggers are fine.
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Scythes got a bit of a buff iirc Maybe try the Corvian Greatknife, that thing is cool and fast as poo poo
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I'm finally tired of DS3. I'm free until the DLC comes out. may it never arrive
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Humans Among Us posted:Scythes got a bit of a buff iirc
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unlawfulsoup posted:Soldier on through the first area and things get much easier from there. I would say Bloodborne is actually easier, unless you are someone who played DS hiding behind his shield poking things. In that case you probably are hosed because BB is about getting in peoples faces and rolling.
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Finally platted the game. I thought grinding ears would take forever, given all the horror stories, but it actually went by pretty quickly. For some reason, while I was grinding ears I kept getting autosummoned for the Blades. I almost never got summoned before.
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Sakurazuka posted:A threaded cane skill build will absolutely demolish stuff [Be wary of liar]
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mango sentinel posted:[Be wary of liar] [Try jumping]
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you guys i bought a ps4 on an impulse and am now going to own bloodborne like poo poo i've beat the game before on a friend's console but now it's going to be mine holy poo poo, bye dark souls 3 you were alright
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