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420 laser ship Molotov supremacy! After watching that how to aim video and learning how to properly lead shots, this thing is a citadel destroying monster. There is nothing greater than landing the ridiculously tight volley right in the center at the waterline, evaporating whatever poor dumb SOB who went broadside to me. 
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Insert name here posted:Well my main reasoning for wanting to take SE is my usual gameplan is to roll onto a point and swat away other DDs, but things can get real ugly if the other DD is also US and knows what he's doing. But yeah you're right that DE is way more useful all around. Definately SE or DE as opposed to AFT. I went with SE on my Fletcher, my reasoning being that with the value of caps, and the Fletcher being arguably the best torpedo boat in the game, the principle objective is to cap and remain alive at all costs in order to be able to basically launch torpedos all match. I don't think DE helps at all in knife fight with another DD in a cap, either you or he will be dead long before a fire or two makes any difference. SE is definately better in that situation. DE shines in being able to frequently start fires on CAs and BBs.
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The Budyonny is down in the special place with the Myogi and one of the low tier German ones that I forgot because they all start with K as the singular worst ships to exist in the game, and I'm seriously considering burning half my free XP just to get out of the shittacular thing before it makes me quit the game again for another 3 months. Any tier 6 that bounces AP shells on the broadside of a loving Kuma needs to be taken out behind the shed, and replaced in the tree with something that's actually playable, I mean for fucks sake, I can citadel a Kuma to death with a Clemson. e: Just really loving angry that I get 1 more battle before the reset, I take out the Budyonny, I get a top tier game with 3 battleships, 1 destroyer, and 11 cruiser per side, of which all bar a Cleveland are tier 5 and 4, and all I can manage is 71 hits from 303 shells that do a paltry 3 fires (with the DE skill) and 36k damage, because these guns are utterly, completely worthless, before getting boom citadeled by a Fuso. Fuckit. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 10:45
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NTRabbit posted:The Budyonny is down in the special place with the Myogi and one of the low tier German ones that I forgot because they all start with K as the singular worst ships to exist in the game, and I'm seriously considering burning half my free XP just to get out of the shittacular thing before it makes me quit the game again for another 3 months. You're in for a nasty surprise, the next two ships in the line have the exact same guns.
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Krogort posted:You're in for a nasty surprise, the next two ships in the line have the exact same guns.  Why can't one of them have the same guns as the Kirov/Donskoi?
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Literally staggered that someone can complain about the Budyonny. What exactly do you want from a cruiser? Its actually a better ship overall than the T7 Schchors, and easier to spell too.
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kaesarsosei posted:Literally staggered that someone can complain about the Budyonny. What exactly do you want from a cruiser? Its actually a better ship overall than the T7 Schchors, and easier to spell too. I want it to do at least one thing well, when it does nothing well. It doesn't do useful damage, it can't take a hit, and it can't dodge a hit. I want to be able to fire AP shells from my tier 6 cruiser and not have them bounce on the flat sides, or from plunging into the wooden deck armour, of tier 4, 5 and 6 cruisers, which the Budyonny does repeatedly. It needs to be stuck in the wash and shrunk down to the size of an actual cruiser instead of the battleship it is now, be given bigger rudders, or get AP shells that can actually pierce armour. It's almost unplayable as it is now. A boost to make the AA more than decorative wouldn't go astray, but I guess someone has to have the weakest AA. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 14:41
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For some sick reason, I'm awful with the Budy and yet I'm awesome with the Kutuzov? 
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guidoanselmi posted:For some sick reason, I'm awful with the Budy and yet I'm awesome with the Kutuzov? Probably because the Budyonny is the worst ship in tier, while the Kutuzov is a blatantly OP premium
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Same RoF I think and lovely guns, smoke isn't very useful, bigger, and worse armor at tier. At range the shell speed/dispersion loses its effect. Dunno how it's OP. Taking 6k off of BB superstructure with AP is not uncommon. I find myself having a lot less opportunities to do that in a Budy
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Jul 19, 2016 15:28
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NTRabbit posted:Probably because the Budyonny is the worst ship in tier, while the Kutuzov is a blatantly OP premium However the Budy has much better firepower for its tier.
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guidoanselmi posted:Same RoF I think and lovely guns, smoke isn't very useful, bigger, and worse armor at tier. At range the shell speed/dispersion loses its effect. Dunno how it's OP. Pretty sure the Kutuzov can stealth fire, the Budonny definitely can't. Lack of armour isn't all that relevant when nobody can see you to shoot at you.
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Jul 19, 2016 15:38
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I don't normally resort to stats but these stats are so empahatic that to my mind leave no doubt as to the best T6 cruiser. Obviously I don't count the Molotov, as a Premium:
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kaesarsosei posted:I don't normally resort to stats but these stats are so empahatic that to my mind leave no doubt as to the best T6 cruiser. Obviously I don't count the Molotov, as a Premium: I'm really not sure how that happens. I can't seem to do decent damage in it with any kind of consistency.
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kaesarsosei posted:I don't normally resort to stats but these stats are so empahatic that to my mind leave no doubt as to the best T6 cruiser. Obviously I don't count the Molotov, as a Premium: My Nurnberg win rate was 62.96%, and average damage 38k, I fail to see how that many people could drive such a super ship that poorly. Also those survival rates seem ludicrously high, my Nurnberg was at 15%, Budyonny at 12%, Aoba at 26% and Cleveland at 38% NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 18:55
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Finally finished with the Fuso and upgraded straight away to the Nagato. It is a loving monster and a blast to play. 10/10 would recommend
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the butt toucher is fine, GIT GUD
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Have a new(er) warship getting shot all to poo poo. USS Thach, a Perry-class frigate, gets hit with 4 Harpoons, a few Hellfires, apparently a Standard or two, a Mk 84 2000-lb bomb, a GBU-12 500-lb bomb, and Mk 48 ADCAP to send it to the bottom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzn5L-82GdE
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Phanatic posted:Have a new(er) warship getting shot all to poo poo. USS Thach, a Perry-class frigate, gets hit with 4 Harpoons, a few Hellfires, apparently a Standard or two, a Mk 84 2000-lb bomb, a GBU-12 500-lb bomb, and Mk 48 ADCAP to send it to the bottom. And it still took 12 hours to go down. Granted, it wasn't carrying anything explosive or flammable, but it proves the Perrys were superbly-built ships.
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Jul 19, 2016 22:49
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Was it loaded up with fuel and gun food (or equivalent) or was this just the straight hull taking the beating?
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Forums Terrorist posted:Was it loaded up with fuel and gun food (or equivalent) or was this just the straight hull taking the beating? "Granted, it wasn't carrying anything explosive or flammable" They don't let you sink ships full of bombs and pollutants anymore. At least, not deliberately.
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It just occurred to me that them making Situational Awareness global means no more swapping captains to a new boat and having to deal with no spotted indicator. 
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Insert name here posted:It just occurred to me that them making Situational Awareness global means no more swapping captains to a new boat and having to deal with no spotted indicator. This was the worst part of retraining destroyer captains, especially the Japanese ones that rely on it for stealth torping but, at best, have a Kamikaze R for retraining. During the last 3x event, which also conveniently had a captain bonus for ranked, I retrained my new Mahan captain in my Sims in just 3 ranked battles from 18k up to 37.5k or whatever that level is.
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Forums Terrorist posted:Was it loaded up with fuel and gun food (or equivalent) or was this just the straight hull taking the beating? Thats a good point, how many WW1/2 era ship sank because of what they were carrying rather than the damage inflicted? Every British ship at Jutland, and HMS Hood all sank because of magazine issues/poor practices. The Yamato/Musashi are good examples of ships that sank due to extreme punishment and they took a ridiculous amount of damage.
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I bought a Saipan during the weekend sale there and I have to say, I'm enjoying it. Its a very nice credit earner, if I sink 1-2 ships, do 60k damage, shoot 20 or so planes I can count on 300k creds before flags, and thats nearly always without much repair costs. I would say thats an average game for me currently. The fast planes and fast turnaround makes it a lot more enjoyable so far than my stock-Essex grind. Also, I've had a few matches against what might be stock Rangers and I don't think I've seen anything as unfair in the game. I watched one Ranger 6-fighter squadron follow a 3-torpedo squadron across the map, fail to shoot any of my planes down, and lost 3 of his own in the process. Edit: Some interesting CV MM changes coming in the next patch: Ryujo/Independence: battle levels changed from 6/7/8 to 6/7 (preferential MM) Hiryu/Ranger/Saipan: battle levels changed from 7/8/9 to 7/8 (preferential MM) Lexington/Shokaku: battle levels changed from 8/9/10 to 8/9 (preferential MM) I keep a Zuiho for seal-clubbing, I might upgrade that to a Ryujo now since it no longer has to deal with Tier 8 AA. A 3/1/1 Ryujo might also be a good way to farm Clear Skies flags. kaesarsosei fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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We now have artillery shells that won't explode unless purposely ignited. Don't know about their use on ships tho.
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kaesarsosei posted:Also, I've had a few matches against what might be stock Rangers and I don't think I've seen anything as unfair in the game. I watched one Ranger 6-fighter squadron follow a 3-torpedo squadron across the map, fail to shoot any of my planes down, and lost 3 of his own in the process.  And then probably exclusively play co-op battles in it and just admire my sweet rear end boat because I assume the only people still playing CVs at tier 9 will poo poo all over me and then my team because I brought that fucker into the match with me.Speaking of CV games I played a game in my Independence recently and I helped poo poo over the enemy Independence by shooting down half his planes and he ended up losing the other half to AA. He ended up scoring a grand total of 18 base XP and I just felt loving bad. 
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Ranger is ok, because you finally get a hangar capacity that can deal with attrition, and you also get two of the useful US dive bomber squadrons, plus once you have the upgrades, skills and modules the fighters are quite good. The main problem is the same as the Independence, not enough squadrons to handle a fighter fit IJN carrier, and the 90 second reload time if your fighter squadron is completely shot down.
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kaesarsosei posted:I don't normally resort to stats but these stats are so empahatic that to my mind leave no doubt as to the best T6 cruiser. Obviously I don't count the Molotov, as a Premium: I loved the Nurmeburg and did very well in it. It's a great kiter. Also, although I'm taking a break from botes, I downloaded the test server and looked at the models for the German BB's. Unless my memory is failing me, no 11 inch guns for the Gneisenau class. 
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The budyonny is easily one of my worst cruisers ever played and lowest WTR... in fact the only things lower than it, Emden, Kolberg, Hermelin. But hey that's just me, 1025 WTR in it. I'm rated an "excellent" cruiser player. Nurnberg felt like I could do a lot more damage, and just wrecked BB even with it's AP. In fact, my best cruisers are the Nurnberg and the Yorck. WTR 1600 and 2000 respectively. So maybe different paddles for different folks.
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NTRabbit posted:Ranger is ok, because you finally get a hangar capacity that can deal with attrition, and you also get two of the useful US dive bomber squadrons, plus once you have the upgrades, skills and modules the fighters are quite good. The main problem is the same as the Independence, not enough squadrons to handle a fighter fit IJN carrier, and the 90 second reload time if your fighter squadron is completely shot down.
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So, what was the point of putting Krasny Krym in the game? Because holy poo poo does it look terrible. Like, in relative tier terms, worse than the Mikasa terrible. And that ship was free; you have to pay for this junker.
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Lord Koth posted:So, what was the point of putting Krasny Krym in the game? Because holy poo poo does it look terrible. Like, in relative tier terms, worse than the Mikasa terrible. And that ship was free; you have to pay for this junker. Need something more to sell to collectors. Its funny, but not surprising, how over represented the Russian tree is with premium ships. They now have 3 mid tier cruisers, a destroyer, some low tier things, a battleship and a high tier cruiser. Most everyone else has squat.
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Lord Koth posted:So, what was the point of putting Krasny Krym in the game? Because holy poo poo does it look terrible. Like, in relative tier terms, worse than the Mikasa terrible. And that ship was free; you have to pay for this junker. I think they meant to fill in the Tier IV premium Soviet/Russian cruiser gap, but accidentally made it Tier V instead.
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Lord Koth posted:So, what was the point of putting Krasny Krym in the game? Because holy poo poo does it look terrible. Like, in relative tier terms, worse than the Mikasa terrible. And that ship was free; you have to pay for this junker. Cash grab. It was a free ship after some mission thing on the ru cluster originally. Now, why they didn't do something similar on the other clusters, I don't know.
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NA is still on the shitlist for the Murmansk incident..
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CitizenKain posted:Its funny, but not surprising, how over represented the Russian tree is with premium ships. They now have 3 mid tier cruisers, a destroyer, some low tier things, a battleship and a high tier cruiser. Not including gift ships, the US has 9 premiums, Soviets 8, IJN 6, Germany 3, but it should be noted that at least 2 of the Soviet ones are so lolOP that they'll never be sold again.
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NTRabbit posted:Not including gift ships, the US has 9 premiums, Soviets 8, IJN 6, Germany 3, but it should be noted that at least 2 of the Soviet ones are so lolOP that they'll never be sold again. I've a feeling they'll sell the Grem again...they'll just make it horrendously overpriced - make you pay Tirpitz prices for a T5 DD. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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