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Tesseraction posted:That LP finished years ago, the game has been translated and released in the west as has its two sequels. Go eat your toenail-covered floor pizza. you voted leave didnt you? and pissflaps voted remain? Makes you think.
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Tesseraction posted:Bah fine, 1977: on this day the CIA release documents admitting they tried mind-control experiments. Oh yeah, when it's misbehaving it's my moon.
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hakimashou posted:you voted leave didnt you? About what?
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ookiimarukochan posted:Linking this without pointing out that the "liberal reformers" that Rafael Behr is proposing Labour form an alliance with are Theresa May and, well, Theresa May is practically a sin Sorry, I was phone posting. On the topic of anti-Englishness, I lived in Glasgow for almost four years, including during the independence referendum, and never experienced any hostility. That's my anecdote. 
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Davos Seaworth confirms his status as Cool & Good https://twitter.com/liamcunningham1/status/755718200373997568
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Tesseraction posted:About what? If people like you- leave voters, had listened to voices of reason - people like pissflaps...
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quote:Critics blame ‘progressive’ teaching styles that focused on applying maths to real-life scenarios in an effort to make the subject more interesting. ... Isn't that just problem sums? We have no shortage of those in Singapore (and I'm guessing China and Japan too)
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the chinese system is loving awful and chinese students are renowned in education for being loving terrible at everything that isn't an abacus when they go to european universities. The skills do not translate to the real world or further education what is wrong with these people?
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Guavanaut posted:
This is really interesting and has made me appreciate maths more than both Dr Ian Malcolm and all of the STEM sperg/MRA morons on the internet combined. Thank you.
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jeremy corbyn going hard rear end motherfucker in the commons right now
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Zalakwe posted:Why is this a bad idea? Similarly to the snoopers charter I can make some assumptions about why it is a bad idea, but why do we know it is a bad idea? It's not, actually. So what the Daily Mail have done here is to hear "as used in [places in the far east]" and conflated the Mastery Approach with their stereotype of eastern mathematics education. There are some things in (certainly very low level) mathematics that can be taught by rote, yes, but that's not what the Mastery Approach is; it's an approach based on the use of high quality text books and lots of in-class discussion. It does have downsides - most notably that it requires dramatically more work by the teacher outside the classroom (and with their colleagues) because it's much more reactive to the needs of students. (As an aside, this is one of the main reasons why education outcomes tend to be better in places like Singapore - teachers have more time to do out-of-classroom preparation.)
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Zalakwe posted:Why is this a bad idea? Similarly to the snoopers charter I can make some assumptions about why it is a bad idea, but why do we know it is a bad idea? e:Apparently I don't know what I'm talking about and am a typical mail reader. Apologies.
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Apparently there were lots of fans of the approach at the ACME (Advisory Committee on Maths Education) conference last week.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's not, actually. It's almost like the way to have a better education system is make sure teachers are highly trained, paid well, and arn't overworked, as opposed to there being one cure-all teaching method!
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Basically takes teaching methods back to the 50s and earlier. It doesn't, the Daily Mail is misrepresenting it.
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Pureauthor posted:... Isn't that just problem sums? We have no shortage of those in Singapore (and I'm guessing China and Japan too) "singapore maths" bar diagram problem sums are quite different from US-flavoured progressive approaches singapore's approach is also actually quite distinct from hk/taiwan/skorea; not sure about japan - singapore maths is mainly about the bar diagrams rather than the story
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Just about to go teach but will, if time and if the thread hasn't moved on, write an effort post on the pedagogy behind whole class learning. Be advised - the Shanghai maths method is *not* rote learning. That's the standard style of education in <insert far east country here> but not the Shanghai Maths method.
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one of the weirder puzzles is how scandinavian and east asian countries with basically totally opposite approaches to teaching maths or hiring teachers can nonetheless both do very well on the PISAs sadly I am not a pedagogy expert and the field is too politicized by anxious parents for me to really tell what's going on
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qhat posted:jeremy corbyn going hard rear end motherfucker in the commons right now I'm not sure this analysis stands up to scrutiny.
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hakimashou posted:If people like you- leave voters, had listened to voices of reason - people like pissflaps... Except I voted Leave because I wanted to leave, dipshit.
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God, it really is like the second coming of Thatcher at PMQs
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Pissflaps posted:I'm not sure this analysis stands up to scrutiny. oh no!!
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haakman posted:Just about to go teach but will, if time and if the thread hasn't moved on, write an effort post on the pedagogy behind whole class learning. Be advised - the Shanghai maths method is *not* rote learning. That's the standard style of education in <insert far east country here> but not the Shanghai Maths method. I'd quite like to read it when time allows - I enjoy your effortposts. 
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haakman posted:Just about to go teach but will, if time and if the thread hasn't moved on, write an effort post on the pedagogy behind whole class learning. Be advised - the Shanghai maths method is *not* rote learning. That's the standard style of education in <insert far east country here> but not the Shanghai Maths method. Just wanna let you know that I'd be interested in this.
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Tesseraction posted:Except I voted Leave because I wanted to leave, dipshit. Right, but if you'd listened to a voice of reason...
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"who was the party that took 3 weeks to decide their 'unity' candidate?" as the common cheers and the camera cuts to angela eagle looking upset
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It doesn't, the Daily Mail is misrepresenting it. So is it the "Singapore system" or the "Chinese/Japanese system" - because I can tell you right now that China and Japan aren't known for their in depth class discussions and creative teaching (vs horrible rote learning) and the reason they rank so high on the PISA international tests is that they cheat (I believe that Singapore does too but I'm not sure)
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If corbyn has this sewn up, shouldn't he have called for another leadership election, to submit himself to the labour voter and secure a mandate? I mean he should have done it so that the drama of the labour backstabbing could have been averted. Would he have been able to obtain better terms for the contest if it was at his direction?
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hakimashou posted:If corbyn has this sewn up, shouldn't he have called for another leadership election, to submit himself to the labour voter and secure a mandate? Way to not notice the major story of the leadership contest until the NEC vote.
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ookiimarukochan posted:So is it the "Singapore system" or the "Chinese/Japanese system" - because I can tell you right now that China and Japan aren't known for their in depth class discussions and creative teaching (vs horrible rote learning) and the reason they rank so high on the PISA international tests is that they cheat (I believe that Singapore does too but I'm not sure) china was in the news for using a shanghai-only sample, but i haven't heard of japan or singapore gaming the rankings
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hakimashou posted:If corbyn has this sewn up, shouldn't he have called for another leadership election, to submit himself to the labour voter and secure a mandate? No, because that's not how leadership elections in the Labour Party work. But also Corbyn was fairly consistent in calling for an open contest, but that has to be initiated by challengers.
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OvineYeast posted:No, because that's not how leadership elections in the Labour Party work. Roger, would they have been able to just screw him off the ballot if he'd resigned on his own?
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hakimashou posted:Roger, would they have been able to just screw him off the ballot if he'd resigned on his own? Perhaps (though probably not), but more to the point it would have meant a Tom Watson caretaker leadership (probably a bad idea)
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Another PMQs that makes me pray for the roof of the house to fall in.
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ookiimarukochan posted:So is it the "Singapore system" or the "Chinese/Japanese system" - because I can tell you right now that China and Japan aren't known for their in depth class discussions and creative teaching (vs horrible rote learning) and the reason they rank so high on the PISA international tests is that they cheat (I believe that Singapore does too but I'm not sure) Its a system devised on taking best elements from other places, its actually quite good and not kids just stood up reciting things, things like times tables would be rote learned because being that's actually really handy as long as its paired with actual understanding. Here's a brief summary https://www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/19990433/Developing_mastery_in_mathematics_october_2014.pdf
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It was against his interest, the "backstabbing" narrative is extremely valuable for his campaign and energizing his anti-establishment support, and the alternative (ie they chicken out) is good for him too. Had he called a leadership contest I doubt very much he'd have made it on the ballot.
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Huh, the Guardian did a thing on it back in 2014 with the same misrepresentation. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/feb/23/maths-teaching-revolution-needed-conrad-wolfram
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