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More mini-RPGs need to be handwritten in the single-sheet booklet format.
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Not related to forums the posting but I made a 2 person boardgame ruleset on a fugue state about twitter slapfights/controversies where you could either drum for sympathy from random followers or try to make the other player have a mental breakdown and all the card options were logical fallacies, insults and insincere arguments. I also designed the first expansion to be about family holiday dinners to see who would be the first person to throw a plate of food at/stab with a salad fork their kin over politics, sports or past grudges.
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Jul 20, 2016 05:18
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Skunkrocker posted:EDIT: That's fair enough. I'm just burned out by the WW format in general. Like, if you want to make a game about anteaters, I'd rather someone try and fail to make their own mechanics rather than see Anteater: The Anteating, where there are 5 anteater Types and 5 different Schools of the art of Anteating (and they all have snarky high-school opinions about each other). Where you gain power by boosting your Tongue stat, increasing your Tasty Ants and combine to fight the Aardvark menace, which also has 5 Types of aardvarks and 5 Colleges that all have snarky opinions about how to eat termites and so on and so on and so on
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Jul 20, 2016 06:25
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Simian_Prime posted:That's fair enough. I'm just burned out by the WW format in general. Like, if you want to make a game about anteaters, I'd rather someone try and fail to make their own mechanics rather than see Anteater: The Anteating, where there are 5 anteater Types and 5 different Schools of the art of Anteating (and they all have snarky high-school opinions about each other). Where you gain power by boosting your Tongue stat, increasing your Tasty Ants and combine to fight the Aardvark menace, which also has 5 Types of aardvarks and 5 Colleges that all have snarky opinions about how to eat termites and so on and so on and so on Yeah, that's kind of always been their thing; split it into further and further groups so they can all bicker with each other, yet still have to get along. It's really loving lame.
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Jul 20, 2016 10:57
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Simian_Prime posted:That's fair enough. I'm just burned out by the WW format in general. Like, if you want to make a game about anteaters, I'd rather someone try and fail to make their own mechanics rather than see Anteater: The Anteating, where there are 5 anteater Types and 5 different Schools of the art of Anteating (and they all have snarky high-school opinions about each other). Where you gain power by boosting your Tongue stat, increasing your Tasty Ants and combine to fight the Aardvark menace, which also has 5 Types of aardvarks and 5 Colleges that all have snarky opinions about how to eat termites and so on and so on and so on I feel like you've given this Anteater supplement quite a bit of thought
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Jul 20, 2016 11:11
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Enough about that, what cool powers can I buy as a pangolin?
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Jul 20, 2016 11:22
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Enough about that, what cool powers can I buy as a pangolin? Delicious.
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Jul 20, 2016 11:55
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Simian_Prime posted:That's fair enough. I'm just burned out by the WW format in general. Like, if you want to make a game about anteaters, I'd rather someone try and fail to make their own mechanics rather than see Anteater: The Anteating, where there are 5 anteater Types and 5 different Schools of the art of Anteating (and they all have snarky high-school opinions about each other). Where you gain power by boosting your Tongue stat, increasing your Tasty Ants and combine to fight the Aardvark menace, which also has 5 Types of aardvarks and 5 Colleges that all have snarky opinions about how to eat termites and so on and so on and so on For as niche a case as this I can agree with this, but for a more generic idea I can't fault people for working within a system that works as opposed to coming up with a whole new one. It's not nearly as easy as it sounds.
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Jul 20, 2016 13:38
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The whole WW system is pretty mediocre though.
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Jul 20, 2016 14:43
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White Wolf continues to use splats because they work. They're a really effective means of helping people make characters that fit into the setting and guide their inspirations down channels without people saying "but what do I do with it?".* They don't always work, especially in games that are so thematically tight or incoherent that subdividing PCs is either unnecessary or muddled (Mummy is the first one, Geist is the second), but it keeps coming back because it's a proven technique. * I keep trying to figure out how to add splats to Nobilis to solve this problem, which is odd because Nobilis has splats; they just apply to Imperators and player characters are warned against identifying with them too hard. It's an interesting problem!
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Jul 20, 2016 17:16
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Rand Brittain posted:* I keep trying to figure out how to add splats to Nobilis to solve this problem, which is odd because Nobilis has splats; they just apply to Imperators and player characters are warned against identifying with them too hard. It's an interesting problem! Why would you feel the need to do this? The entire Key system is made to help you figure this out, and is quiet good at it. The thing Nobilis needs is a more defined conflict system, not changes to character creation.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:11
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Hell there are extensive sections on the different Songs. They're tied up in a lot of unnecessary prose, but they exist and are (with the exception of Light) well defined and interesting.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:15
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fool_of_sound posted:Why would you feel the need to do this? The entire Key system is made to help you figure this out, and is quiet good at it. The thing Nobilis needs is a more defined conflict system, not changes to character creation. Lots of people have said that they find lifepaths confusing.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:34
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Rand Brittain posted:Lots of people have said that they find lifepaths confusing. Weird, they're very straightforward. Again, they're probably getting caught up in the prose.
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Jul 20, 2016 21:51
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So uh, I'm just gonna leave this here because it's really something else. http://www.glyphsrpg.com/ (Possibly NWS, reports of naked female Poser models) quote:The Token System TM is a Tabletop Role Playing Game Engine that implements a specially crafted Coin known as "The Token TM," bearing symbols known as 'Glyphs' and a hole through the center used to pinpoint the success or failure of an action.   Supplementary reading in this "design journal" : http://roleplayerschronicle.com/?p=47610 quote:Influences   This things is 454 pages long, and yet he repeatedly refers to it as a barebones system. Scyther fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 20, 2016 22:48
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Scyther posted:Having an extensive background playing D&D abandon all hope, ye who enter here
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Jul 20, 2016 22:52
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Not only do they sell a GM's screen, but you can purchase a Quick Gen screen to hasten the character generation process  It has just as much info on it as the GM's screen.
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Jul 20, 2016 22:53
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That poser art is making Plutonis horny!!!
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Jul 20, 2016 22:56
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Judging by the art, Glyphs is set in the mystical land of The Uncanny Valley.
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Jul 20, 2016 22:58
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i have zero idea what that token actually does but it looks cool as hell aesthetically
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Jul 20, 2016 22:58
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Countblanc posted:i have zero idea what that token actually does but it looks cool as hell aesthetically Just open up the .pdf and try to make sense of the pages immediately following the Poser Golem. But yes, it LOOKS badass.
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Jul 20, 2016 23:00
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You know to run when someone says they "don't want to be influenced by outside sources". At best that means "can't be hosed to learn or understand new systems" and at worst "I am a dangerous mental patient, my dog tells me to burn things and make bad elfgames". In other news, does anyone have that power selection cheat sheet Andy made for Double Cross?
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Jul 20, 2016 23:02
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Countblanc posted:i have zero idea what that token actually does but it looks cool as hell aesthetically You toss it onto the table and the center-most glyph* is the result ( I assume the 'roller's' perspective) like a compass. *If more than one read them clockwise, left to right. Of course if they are evenly apart, then you get to argue with the GM that you really wanted to roll All Seeing Eye and not Spanner or something.
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Jul 20, 2016 23:06
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fool_of_sound posted:Weird, they're very straightforward. Again, they're probably getting caught up in the prose. It also may be that they just aren't as helpful if you have a vague concept like "I want to be a frat boy who's the Sun" or "I think it would be nice to be the ruler of the ocean" and the part they have trouble with is fitting that into the game's social milieu. Like, is being a frat boy the path to being the god everybody thinks is dumb, or is Apollonian hedonism common in this setting? If I want to be the person who thinks all these fancy names are pretentious and performs divine interventions in a Superman T-shirt, is that fairly normal, or am I a rebel against orthodoxy, or am I being an rear end in a top hat who's refusing to play in-genre? This is where splats are helpful because they make it really clear what positions are considered "normal" in-setting. The Songs don't fill this role that well, because they're splats that you're encouraged to look at and throw parts of back, so they aren't as good at displaying social norms for Nobilis. I've been working on an outline for Nobilis 4e for a while now, and one of the big things I want 4e to do is make it clear that each player group is going to be doing a lot to define the world just by working out their own domains and by creating NPCs.
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Jul 20, 2016 23:55
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I'm honestly surprised it took about 45 pages for that game to get around to having a naked female Poser character.
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Jul 20, 2016 23:55
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Rand Brittain posted:It also may be that they just aren't as helpful if you have a vague concept like "I want to be a frat boy who's the Sun" or "I think it would be nice to be the ruler of the ocean" and the part they have trouble with is fitting that into the game's social milieu. Like, is being a frat boy the path to being the god everybody thinks is dumb... Did... did you play in that lovely Changeling game too? Cause this literally happened, except splats didn't help make it any dumber of a character.
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Jul 21, 2016 00:11
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Rand Brittain posted:It also may be that they just aren't as helpful if you have a vague concept like "I want to be a frat boy who's the Sun" or "I think it would be nice to be the ruler of the ocean" and the part they have trouble with is fitting that into the game's social milieu. Like, is being a frat boy the path to being the god everybody thinks is dumb, or is Apollonian hedonism common in this setting? If I want to be the person who thinks all these fancy names are pretentious and performs divine interventions in a Superman T-shirt, is that fairly normal, or am I a rebel against orthodoxy, or am I being an rear end in a top hat who's refusing to play in-genre? As it is, with Nobilis in both editions I've read, the issue is that the game does not actually have a social milieu to speak of described in the books (A Society of Flowers never came out, right?) Like, we're given rough general ideas of how many other Familia there might be on Earth, but very little suggestion on how to use them other than the 2e sample campaign suggesting "Interact with these three families" (which is pretty cool) or 3e seeming to vaguely suggest "and in this adventure, the Takari Risu pops up". I have no clue what most Nobles are doing with their day to day, and 'splats' would probably help less than general categories. Are most of them fighting the in War? As a GM, should I be including them regularly? Do most of them just chill out and tend to their Estate? How does that work, anyway? Is the world almost fluid because of all the crazy things Nobles could be doing that's constantly changing the world?
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Jul 21, 2016 00:19
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Skunkrocker posted:Did... did you play in that lovely Changeling game too? Cause this literally happened, except splats didn't help make it any dumber of a character. I wasn't really talking about the objective quality of the concept, but about what characters in-setting will think of it. Is it okay to have a vampire who thinks all the Traditions are dumb? Does that make me a rebel or just an idiot who doesn't believe in things that are obviously correct in-character? The existence of Anarchs indicate that this is something you can do. Nobilis isn't as clear on whether refusing to engage in fancy magical tea parties and use really big words is a political stance, just really gauche, or refusing to engage with the premise. (The answer is meant to be "depends on the needs of your table" but this could be more explicit.)
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Jul 21, 2016 03:03
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crossposting from the warmahordes thread i just got back into the stupid money hole known as miniatures, what's a decent and inexpensive carrying case for the foam for my stupid plastic dolls
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Jul 21, 2016 03:36
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Literally The Worst posted:crossposting from the warmahordes thread Everyone is going to tell you to get something from KR Multicase.
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Jul 21, 2016 04:25
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Swagger Dagger posted:Everyone is going to tell you to get something from KR Multicase. yeah im not paying for kr multicase. they're nice poo poo, but they're way more than i want to pay for taking it between my house, the car, and the shop (where, if im being honest, i'll probably end up leaving it at some point because i have a key to the back room) i'd like to get an Army Transport case but i'm not sure if i can get them through one of our distributors or not
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Jul 21, 2016 04:30
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Rand Brittain posted:Nobilis isn't as clear on whether refusing to engage in fancy magical tea parties and use really big words is a political stance, just really gauche, or refusing to engage with the premise. (The answer is meant to be "depends on the needs of your table" but this could be more explicit.) Ah ok, yeah the culture/politics of the Powers could use more thorough explanation. It's more like a collection of weird short stories as it is.
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Jul 21, 2016 04:39
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Literally The Worst posted:crossposting from the warmahordes thread When I still played I used this Makita Case with closed cell foam glued to foam board. Could be a bit tight for larger armies, but somehow I made it work. I guess it depends on how deep into the rabbit hole you are going. If going for more than one army, you could always look at contractor chests. Cheap, ugly as sin, but they work and have durable wheels for curb hopping. Can even slap a padlock on it for minimal security, if that's your thing.
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Jul 21, 2016 05:37
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paradoxGentleman posted:Genius the Transgression is good. This is Objectively Wrong™. Like I'd rather play this Highlander WoD game. Luckily it's on track for full release at GenCon '95!
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Jul 21, 2016 09:46
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Literally The Worst posted:yeah im not paying for kr multicase. they're nice poo poo, but they're way more than i want to pay for taking it between my house, the car, and the shop (where, if im being honest, i'll probably end up leaving it at some point because i have a key to the back room)
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Jul 21, 2016 09:53
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Lightning Lord posted:This is Objectively Wrong™. Like I'd rather play this Highlander WoD game. Luckily it's on track for full release at GenCon '95! There is a nWoD supplement called Immortals that never directly references Highlander, but hints at it's existence. I always wondered about that, like how it would quote the Queen songs in the margins, or straight up say the plot to the films, but then if you search the entire book top to bottom Highlander just never gets mentioned by name. I wonder if it was just to piss this one guy off. Nerds have a history of doing dumb things like that.
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Jul 21, 2016 10:55
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Jul 21, 2016 11:59
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Simian_Prime posted:Judging by the art, Glyphs is set in the mystical land of The Uncanny Valley. No, the uncanny valley is cyberpunk, not some generic fantasy trash
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Jul 21, 2016 12:25
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Glyphs random NPC generation posted:1- ‘Spin’ the Token Twice to establish the Character’s level of Clothing. Interpret the Digits from 0-9 as an overall 'EN' Index Value. I think at least half of the 400 pages are 'spin the token into the omni grid and interpret the result as a number from 1 to 4 using this key [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]' every time they want to say 'roll a d4'. xiw fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 12:34
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xiw posted:
Actually I think that's Daniel Bryan. Skunkrocker posted:There is a nWoD supplement called Immortals that never directly references Highlander, but hints at it's existence. I always wondered about that, like how it would quote the Queen songs in the margins, or straight up say the plot to the films, but then if you search the entire book top to bottom Highlander just never gets mentioned by name. Most likely, it's just an attempt to avoid having the owners of Highlander come after them. After all, if you entirely copy something but don't directly name it, you're in the clear! I wouldn't be surprised if these guys had never heard of 1994's hottest net.supplement at all.
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