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It still seems like there's a distinct possibility that this is all going exactly as planned. Which sounds  and freaks me out, but anyway.
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Let's not get too hasty with the r word. Ted Cruz made a big fuss about how he was gonna endorse the nominee because HE SWORE AN OATH. He said this despite Trump calling Cruz's wife an ugly bag. Cruz is only doing this because Trump from then till now really got under his skin. He's only doing this for self-indulgent reasons. gently caress Ted Cruz. TV talkshows are too good a fate for him.
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But the question remains, should we really be allowed to have such devices?
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Blind Rasputin posted:But the question remains, should we really be allowed to have such devices? Hail SS-18 Satan may his passage cleanse the earth
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GSD posted:it was mentioned that our military would be rebuilt http://college.usatoday.com/2016/07/19/mike-pence-mulan-women-military/ quote:“Despite her delicate features and voice, Disney expects us to believe that Mulan’s ingenuity and courage were enough to carry her to military success on an equal basis with her cloddish cohorts,” Pence wrote in the op-ed. “Obviously, this is Walt Disney’s attempt to add childhood expectation to the cultural debate over the role of women in the military.”
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SSNeoman posted:Let's not get too hasty with the r word. Ted Cruz made a big fuss about how he was gonna endorse the nominee because HE SWORE AN OATH. He said this despite Trump calling Cruz's wife an ugly bag. And the best part? He could have simply declined to speak at the convention and remained silent on the whole thing and when Trump goes down the shitter fold his arms and calmly say: You should have picked me and maybe have tried again in 2020. But his gigantic ego wouldn't let him, he just had to get in that passive aggressive dig, get that last word in. This is a man who just pissed in the coffeepot at work, even though he knows he's on camera and also he has to drink a big steaming cup of it.
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I don't like Ted Cruz, but he has bigger balls than all of the bootlickers for sure.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't like Ted Cruz, but he has bigger balls than all of the bootlickers for sure. Chris Christie has been flying around the country carrying Trump's garment bag for the last 3 months.
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mcmagic posted:Chris Christie has been flying around the country carrying Trump's McDonalds bag for the last 3 months. ftfy
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Quest For Glory II posted:it has women in it As the potential future vice president of the United States I have some very in depth opinions on the Disney classic Mulan, and furthermore
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't like Ted Cruz, but he has bigger balls than all of the bootlickers for sure. Let's not confuse biggest balls with biggest psychopath. Balls implies that you are pushing through fear and making a courageous act. Cruz gets energized by a crowd of people booing him and threatening to do physical harm.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Ted is, was, and will forever be a giant piece of poo poo. I'm still delighted with his non-endorsement last night for a couple of reasons: 1) Should the unthinkable happen and Trump win, he's going to have a very miserable next few years. People in Congress already hate him with the exception of Mike Lee; nobody would piss on his face were it on fire for fear of drawing Trump's ire. 2)If the most likely scenario occurs and Hillary wins the inability of the crazies to blame their candidate that they rabidly defended for losing on his own merits will mean they'll blame Cruz instead. He'll probably get primaried and lose. He'll find himself on the receiving end of all the whackjob hate he's so carefully stoked these past few years. There's a lot of republicans I can go "Well at least he has stopped clock moments" with. Ted has been the only person I've ever seen that I can't even say that about. I'm so happy he's destroyed his career with this .poo poo. Only people like Mark Levin are defending this piece of sht.
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nachos posted:Let's not confuse biggest balls with biggest psychopath. Who cares what his motivation is. He did the objectively right thing.
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mcmagic posted:Who cares what his motivation is. He did the objectively right thing. Eh. It behooves him to undercut Trump because it seems unlikely that the Orange One would be successfully primaried if he was a sitting POTUS. Motivation matters here, because he wants the seat for himself, and he has to do his backstabbing routine all day erry day to make sure the position isn't filled with another Republican when he takes his shot in 2020.
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SubponticatePoster posted:This is a man who just pissed in the coffeepot at work, even though he knows he's on camera and also he has to drink a big steaming cup of it. This is basically how he's managed his entire political career.
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mcmagic posted:Who cares what his motivation is. He did the objectively right thing. When fringe leftist candidate Bernie makes an rear end out of himself fighting Hillary to the bitter end, he's a hero fighting for his beliefs. When fringe right-winger Ted Cruz does the same thing to the bloated reincarnation of Benito Mussolini, he's a psychopath.
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Kumo posted:Anybody thinking "I sort of respect Ted Cruz more than before." is doing precisely what Ted Cruz wants. I don't respect Ted Cruz more for doing this but I'm glad to see there' no bridge to yuuge for him to burn. Lightning Knight posted:I mean, I hope it torpedoes her career, but I doubt that's going to happen. There's just enough plausible deniability for her that they can defend it. I don't think you understand the right wing radio audience if you think a nazi salute would hurt her career.
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at the date posted:When fringe leftist candidate Bernie makes an rear end out of himself fighting Hillary to the bitter end, he's a hero fighting for his beliefs. When fringe right-winger Ted Cruz does the same thing to the bloated reincarnation of Benito Mussolini, he's a psychopath. What Bernie did by continuing to campaign and do a 50 state sort of thing to raise progressive issues is not comparable. The reason he continued his campaign was for exactly that reason. It was also to get as many delegates as possible to help push progressive planks on the platform. Bernie is not going to go on stage in Philadelphia and pull the poo poo that Cruz just did either. He has said "We must stop Trump" multiple times and has said that's his top priority (and why he's supporting Hillary).
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Oh poo poo is Pence the Corinthian?
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Screens dying last night. https://twitter.com/samsanders/status/755948029157474304 https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/755947481259585537 https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/755946649579622400 More for my benefit.
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at the date posted:When fringe leftist candidate Bernie makes an rear end out of himself fighting Hillary to the bitter end, he's a hero fighting for his beliefs. When fringe right-winger Ted Cruz does the same thing to the bloated reincarnation of Benito Mussolini, he's a psychopath. Bernie did the right thing too. Just like Cruz did. He didn't make an rear end of himself at all.
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acejackson42 posted:A carrier strike group[1] (CSG) is an operational formation of the United States Navy. It is composed of roughly 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a destroyer squadron of at least two destroyers and/or frigates,[2] and a carrier air wing of 65 to 70 aircraft. A carrier strike group also, on occasion, includes submarines, attached logistics ships and a supply ship.
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The United States currently has 19 commissioned aircraft carriers in service. The rest of the world combined after that has 21. And the US is currently constructing 3 more with another 16 planned. gently caress.
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Krauthammer and Bret Baier talking like Trump has already won
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Josh Lyman posted:Krauthammer and Bret Baier talking like Trump has already won It's possible he already has. Candidates like Trump win by firing up their bases to turn up and vote, and getting their opponents not to take them seriously so they stay home. Seems to be what's happening. There was an interview with Rob Ford's biographer in the Globe & Mail today where he remarked how much of Ford Nation he saw in Trump's supporters. It's all playing out in much the same way as that election did in Toronto.
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if he can stay on script, he'll get a significant bump in the polls from that speech. It is what the Chris Hayes tweet said earlier--pure nationalism, but with a dash of Hillary hatred solely on policy. But it doesn't have any huge gaffes in it that I can see. There is no "Hillary for prison" bullshit. So he'll have to go out in public/on twitter and gently caress up like he always does. Point is, don't put too much stock in the upcoming polls
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It also reads nothing like anything Trump has ever said in his life. It is coherent, has multi-syllable words, and makes clear arguments and points. Like it's so plainly and blatantly something he had someone else write for him that I honestly can't help but wonder/hope if some of his supporters might see through the facade and be a bit upset with him. It's not very strong or manly to have to read other people's words. Like, seriously, I'm just flabbergasted how little this sounds like him. Whoever wrote this thing didn't even try to capture Trump's voice, which is funny because Trump's 'charisma' is his selling point as a fascist strongman and front.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Ted is, was, and will forever be a giant piece of poo poo. I'm still delighted with his non-endorsement last night for a couple of reasons: 1) Should the unthinkable happen and Trump win, he's going to have a very miserable next few years. People in Congress already hate him with the exception of Mike Lee; nobody would piss on his face were it on fire for fear of drawing Trump's ire. 2)If the most likely scenario occurs and Hillary wins the inability of the crazies to blame their candidate that they rabidly defended for losing on his own merits will mean they'll blame Cruz instead. He'll probably get primaried and lose. He'll find himself on the receiving end of all the whackjob hate he's so carefully stoked these past few years. There was some republican analyst type on NPR this morning saying that if Trump barely loses then the whole party will hate Ted Cruz a lot (I paraphrase) but if Trump loses in a landslide then a lot of people will think that Ted Cruz knew what was up all along. Notably absent was any mention of Trump winning.
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Plenty of lies and stupidity in that so it checks out. I wonder how anyone listening to that speech thinks they survived this long with America become a lawless hellhole will people are murdered by the millions every day thanks to Hilary Clinton.
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emdash posted:if he can stay on script, he'll get a significant bump in the polls from that speech. It is what the Chris Hayes tweet said earlier--pure nationalism, but with a dash of Hillary hatred solely on policy. But it doesn't have any huge gaffes in it that I can see. There is no "Hillary for prison" bullshit. So he'll have to go out in public/on twitter and gently caress up like he always does. The problem with that is I don't think Trump is even capable of staying on script for longer than a minute or so at a time. It's going to be interesting to see what he ends up doing tonight.
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withak posted:There was some republican analyst type on NPR this morning saying that if Trump barely loses then the whole party will hate Ted Cruz a lot (I paraphrase) but if Trump loses in a landslide then a lot of people will think that Ted Cruz knew what was up all along. Notably absent was any mention of Trump winning. Normally I would agree with that take, but this is Zodiac Killer we are talking about. If it was anyone else, they'd be right. But as has been stated many times on this board, Republicans are so good at holding on to grudges and creating stabbed-in-the-back narratives that even Hitler would be impressed. I cannot imagine any world where Zodiac Killer is forgiven his lifetime of betrayals and backstabbing. Particularly when the hypothetical impetus for doing so is that he was right and did the right thing.
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